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posted ago by vote_for_MAGA_2020 ago by vote_for_MAGA_2020 +3203 / -0

Didn’t expect this leftist garbage from a Baptist church.

Edit: thanks for the support pedes. My faith in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit is not diminished. I’m just disappointed in the pastor. I will keep looking for a church that is rooted in God only.

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DeadOverRed 218 points ago +219 / -1

That's a really good take. Say what you will about God's standards, at least they don't change every 4 minutes.

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obamagsm 197 points ago +198 / -1

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

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DeadOverRed 76 points ago +77 / -1

Amen.

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 [S] 50 points ago +53 / -3

Amen (aka “This is the way”)

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Melthesender45 37 points ago +40 / -3

Because Jesus is the Truth, the Light, and the way. Truth doesn't change only lies do.

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barwhack 22 points ago +27 / -5

God was always pre-racial, and a-racial, or better - he became biracial: both Elohim (celestial) and human (terrestrial). Babel was an object lesson AGAINST human tribalism - assigning the nations to lesser gods so they'd get The (Bad) Experience. Israel was God's de novo nation, so that he could use them as his own - free of such faux goddish lineage - later to re-adopt the lot of humanity back: after they sufficiently failed under pagan management. Voluntary adoption only. Now. And so stands Christ's offer, at last.

Our race is as God's, if we choose, then. But "race" is just "family", by any definition. God's TWO families are to be united. And if God's not your parent, who cares otherwise.

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LydiaDarragh 9 points ago +9 / -0

Are you a Naked Bible Podcast listener?

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barwhack 8 points ago +9 / -1

Just a Christian, and a deep reader. I like Heiser; met him once. 😀

SPEZ: 1777! O new account.

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booster_red 10 points ago +10 / -0

The Bible is God's revelation of himself to mankind, and the problem with that idea is that the same God who created and preserved the universe promised that the word of God would endure. Jesus didn't correct the Old Testament, he reinforced the truth of it (while simultaneously fulfilling some of the parts, which is one reason the church has different goals and practices than the nation of Israel). If you search out the Old Testament, there was provision made for the stranger (I'm trying to explain that God didn't JUST work with the Jews, but they allowed themselves to be the nation that would bring forth the Messiah who would save the whole world, and, as such, they received blessings that go along with that). At the same time, we have more historical proof that the Bible is accurate than any other ancient writing. If you want a good resource to look at and study that uses logical deduction, I highly recommend J. Warner Wallace's Cold Case Christianity. It focuses on the New Testament, but if you come to the conclusion that that is accurate, then you need to understand that Jesus Christ doesn't back up your idea. Sorry for the long winded answer, and have a good day!

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MAGAmom4 4 points ago +4 / -0

Look up the book “God’s Hammer”. Short book, but high-level thinking about the Bible.

Also, find a reformed church where most of the people homeschool. People that embrace that usually love liberty, take their faith serious, and teach their kids to do the same.

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barwhack 3 points ago +3 / -0

I look at the old testament as history, and I view life as a scientist (physician/former-engineer) and unabashed supernaturalist. The reason why I look at the OT so, is archaeological, as the texts in it exist in the record at wildly different (and old) dates, which substantiates a consistent reading across time. Heiser's work is in that field, called "lower criticism"; it's publicly accessible, as he writes popularly too. Also, look into thebibleproject.com (high production value) and bible.ca (high theological value), too. None of this -maybe- will help you find a home, but it may help you find a mooring.

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hondo1 2 points ago +2 / -0

It wasn't altered or changed but what people teach from it is often specific and used to push certain narratived, like the ones you mentioned.

The revelation of Jesus Christ is pure and true but man tends to mess things up. What you have here are criticisms of man (which are valid), just don't let them stand in the way of your relationship with your creator.

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sordfysh 19 points ago +19 / -0

Jesus brought about the freedom of his people. His people being not just the direct descendants of Israel, but every human on Earth.

The places where slavery still exists is in places that don't have Christianity.

Even to this day, when people describe slavery in the US, they talk about things like student loans which cannot be forgiven. And wouldn't ya know, they are distributed by bankers and academia. Not a whole lot of Jesus amongst those groups.

And outside the US, slavery happens mostly in Muslim and atheist countries.

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NoCommies 5 points ago +5 / -0

Imagine being a grown adult, borrowing large amounts of money from someone, then calling yourself a slave because they make you pay it back.

College is not mandatory, people.

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Shanabsidevdh -1 points ago +1 / -2

There’s plenty of Slavery in Africa, in which most of the countries are majority Christian

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My2SonsAreMarines 3 points ago +3 / -0

Name them

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Shanabsidevdh 1 point ago +1 / -0

According to the 2018 global slavery index, Africa has the highest rate of enslavement in the world with an estimated 9.2 million people in slavery (armed conflict, forced labor, force’s marriages, etc). 78% of these were in sub Saharan Africa which is 63% Christian. The highest rate was in Burundi which is 92% Christian