Tell them shes been posting racist shit about black people that your black friends have been offended by and they need to monitor her online behavior better. You may come off as an ass, but a parent being told their child is a piece of shit will kick them into gear.
Choose one person - her father. Meet him alone, where he is free to think for himself. Say one simple statement; "I have been on Antifa sites and I'm worried about how they treat the women and girls in these groups. The orgainzers seem to encourage young females to do illegal stuff and keep the leaders out of jail".
Rather than speak - print out any supporting info and hand it to the father (they can't hear you anyway, you are 'other' to this family). Don't talk, just queue up the video of the girls who got hit on the freeway while protesting. If Dad hasn't seen it, he will be mesmerized like we all were. Don't speak, and put your phone back in your pocket.
Thank him for listening - and walk away. Do not offer to help. The parent's aren't anywhere near the place where they would want it (and your offer would just give them an 'out' from taking parental action). They may not even call once they think about your information and take action. They will be angry that you called attention to their shame. This is not your shame or theirs - it is the shame of these organizations that use babies as pawns.
NOTES: 1. 'Other' - has nothing to do with you, or what you are trying to help. Labelling someone as 'other' is a standard human coping technique for information/actions that are uncomfortable but have a kernel of reason (aka. they know you have a valid reason to bring up safety, but it's too much work for THEM to incorporate 'safety' into their easily-upset teenager).
Decent middle-of-the-road articleoverview of Antifa tactics and shenanigans.
She's this way due to peers and lax parenting. The best avenue is to make aware the dad, since he's the one who is likely to suffer the most relationship wise if she continues.
I can't tell you how many of my peers are reealizing now that their 20 year old daughters hate them seemingly out of the blue.
These groups provide emotional support and attention to young girls. They create a social relationship that makes them comfortable acting against their parents and society. The only way it can be nipped is by someone with a close relationship already to her. Someone who care about the girl.
Throw in an occasional fact or pointed questions, but keep it so that she comes to better conclusions herself instead of just being told what to think by yet another authority.
It's "cool" to support Antifa. They are shown on tv a lot. They have a cool logo. Cool flags. Cool uniform. A secret group. That's the draw.
When I was 16 or so I thought a group called "Rose Brigada" in Italy was cool. They had a cool logo. Cool t-shirts, etc. What did they do? Oh, they bombed things. I knew that was wrong, but the group was still "cool" to me.
I grew out of it, obviously. But not all admirers will grow out of it.
I've read the thread and think I understand your concerns and the situation, and I think it's generally beyond your ability to affect, without causing a family shitstorm. Sometimes we see where things are headed, and just let people take their own journey. If you see a way to redirect her, then cool and I hope it works. Many kids are scary rebels until they grow up.
I understand your frustration pede. Best thing you can do is speak with parents and build a case for why it’s bad. Otherwise...as JLP says, sometimes you just ha e to let people suffer and die. It’s sad, but that’s all you can do.
the sad thing is that all her friends are probably doing it and it's cool. There is a lot of pressure on kids to be either gay,trans, or bi now as well.
Well in a way she is safe because the mainstream supports those views. She won’t be punished for them and no one will dox her. That said her long term health and mental well being are in jeopardy.
I’m a straight-up Norman Rockwell, Walton’s, cry during It’s A Wonderful Life kind of guy, but there comes a point where “but they’re family!” isn’t worth it. You don’t choose your relatives, but you can choose not to engage with their bullshit.
Cut this cancer out of your life. There's nothing you can do for that commie thot. Nothing. She's gone, and will continue to get worse and worse every year. Have nothing to say to her, nothing to do with her. Lost cause. It's not that hard.
Lol the parents have failed, education system and peer pressure has them now.
You're 12. You're not bisexual. You're not sexual at all.
Yea, "I have friends that are girls and boys, I'm bi!"
No you're not
remember you have to be 13 years old to join most social media like facebook, insta etc. just report her..
Tell them shes been posting racist shit about black people that your black friends have been offended by and they need to monitor her online behavior better. You may come off as an ass, but a parent being told their child is a piece of shit will kick them into gear.
Choose one topic - her safety.
Choose one person - her father. Meet him alone, where he is free to think for himself. Say one simple statement; "I have been on Antifa sites and I'm worried about how they treat the women and girls in these groups. The orgainzers seem to encourage young females to do illegal stuff and keep the leaders out of jail".
Rather than speak - print out any supporting info and hand it to the father (they can't hear you anyway, you are 'other' to this family). Don't talk, just queue up the video of the girls who got hit on the freeway while protesting. If Dad hasn't seen it, he will be mesmerized like we all were. Don't speak, and put your phone back in your pocket.
Thank him for listening - and walk away. Do not offer to help. The parent's aren't anywhere near the place where they would want it (and your offer would just give them an 'out' from taking parental action). They may not even call once they think about your information and take action. They will be angry that you called attention to their shame. This is not your shame or theirs - it is the shame of these organizations that use babies as pawns.
NOTES: 1. 'Other' - has nothing to do with you, or what you are trying to help. Labelling someone as 'other' is a standard human coping technique for information/actions that are uncomfortable but have a kernel of reason (aka. they know you have a valid reason to bring up safety, but it's too much work for THEM to incorporate 'safety' into their easily-upset teenager).
This is the best advice.
She's this way due to peers and lax parenting. The best avenue is to make aware the dad, since he's the one who is likely to suffer the most relationship wise if she continues.
I can't tell you how many of my peers are reealizing now that their 20 year old daughters hate them seemingly out of the blue.
These groups provide emotional support and attention to young girls. They create a social relationship that makes them comfortable acting against their parents and society. The only way it can be nipped is by someone with a close relationship already to her. Someone who care about the girl.
Its grooming a child into a willing victim.
Tell both parents she is getting roped into extremism.
Ask her if that is that equality, or is that black privilege?
This. Keep asking her questions. A few at a time.
Throw in an occasional fact or pointed questions, but keep it so that she comes to better conclusions herself instead of just being told what to think by yet another authority.
I have a cousin who let his 12 years old stay with 3 friends at a hotel for her 13th birthday.
Sometimes, you turn the other cheeke and act surprised when something happens in the future. Cant fix stupid, even if its family.
You could send her this study.
https://reason.com/2020/07/07/narcissists-psychopaths-and-manipulators-are-more-likely-to-engage-in-virtuous-victim-signaling-says-study/
Oh, that's a good one.
Downloaded the story.
Sounds like my ex-husband - virtue signaling for resource extraction. That is, play the victim and have people give you stuff.
It's "cool" to support Antifa. They are shown on tv a lot. They have a cool logo. Cool flags. Cool uniform. A secret group. That's the draw.
When I was 16 or so I thought a group called "Rose Brigada" in Italy was cool. They had a cool logo. Cool t-shirts, etc. What did they do? Oh, they bombed things. I knew that was wrong, but the group was still "cool" to me.
I grew out of it, obviously. But not all admirers will grow out of it.
I've read the thread and think I understand your concerns and the situation, and I think it's generally beyond your ability to affect, without causing a family shitstorm. Sometimes we see where things are headed, and just let people take their own journey. If you see a way to redirect her, then cool and I hope it works. Many kids are scary rebels until they grow up.
I understand your frustration pede. Best thing you can do is speak with parents and build a case for why it’s bad. Otherwise...as JLP says, sometimes you just ha e to let people suffer and die. It’s sad, but that’s all you can do.
Is this your child? Take away the internet and all devices.
They're technically too young for social media. Just report them to whatever site it is.
the sad thing is that all her friends are probably doing it and it's cool. There is a lot of pressure on kids to be either gay,trans, or bi now as well.
Does she look up to you? If so, call out her bullshit. Does she think you're lame? Then try to talk about how you're bisexual and love BLM too.
pictures say a thousand words, maybe some comparison photos of the nazi antifa flag next to the antifa one etc.
All antifa supporters are children
Report the parents to child services
Well in a way she is safe because the mainstream supports those views. She won’t be punished for them and no one will dox her. That said her long term health and mental well being are in jeopardy.
Look, dude or dudette, you can do many things.
Karen Call CPS
Try to reason and post things
LOOK 👀 AWAY FROM THE SCREEN
Get some fresh air, exercise, take vitamins, drink lots of water, read, improve yourself, do hobbies, volunteer, work...
You can do many things. Why is a 12 year old getting to you when you can look away and do things for yourself/community/others? ✌️
I’m a straight-up Norman Rockwell, Walton’s, cry during It’s A Wonderful Life kind of guy, but there comes a point where “but they’re family!” isn’t worth it. You don’t choose your relatives, but you can choose not to engage with their bullshit.
That’s why there’s number 1. Did you read that?
Cut this cancer out of your life. There's nothing you can do for that commie thot. Nothing. She's gone, and will continue to get worse and worse every year. Have nothing to say to her, nothing to do with her. Lost cause. It's not that hard.