You can see Tim quietly seething when Adam makes valid points and talks for longer than a few minutes sometimes. You can see the testiness when they disagree sometimes. They'll have a real ass argument one day on stream. Adam will try to push Tim off the fence on some topic and Tim will resist and Adam will call him on his shit live. I give it a few months.
"I'm sorry man...." LOL. Tim is starting to be a bit annoying but I understand what he's up to. Straddling a fence rail must hurt your butt after awhile.
Nah that's not the case at all, pay closer attention. The vast majority of their heated discussions are often Adam thinking he knows everything because he's 'taken the red pill' and then forgetting that it was Tim that introduced him to this new world that he's experiencing and Adam trying to belittle Tim's experiences because he loves the attention he's getting from the Trump crowd now.
Often the cause of their arguments is almost always that they're arguing about two entirely different things, Adam still argues like a lefty and Tim gets carried away with pushing his side of the argument rather than realising that neither of them is listening to the other. It made me want to stop watching because it's entirely unproductive.
Hard disagree. The vast majority of their disagreements happen because Tim immediately shuts adam down when adam tries to make a point. At least, he used to before adam grew a set and told tim to fuck off. Rewatch the stream where tim and adam had their viral rants. 10 minutes before Adam's rant tim tries to shut adam down with his usual "No, you're wrong" and adam flat out tells him "No, I'm right. Say I'm right. Okay, moving on."
The reason adam gets pissed is because Tim never adds anything after shutting him down. He just rewords what adam says and pretends ot was his idea all along. This pisses adam off because hes done the actual work to research the topic, as opposed to tim whose resting on his elite news article reading skillz.
I think originally that was the case, Tim would say "not even that" to almost everything and yeah it was annoying, but it became a meme and Tim has definitely stopped or slowed down and doesn't do it in such an obnoxious way anymore.
The thing that actually really bothers me is exactly what you just quoted, when Adam gets aggressive and says "tell me I'm right, okay moving on" it's incredibly obnoxious, neither one of them wants to meet in the middle, the way Adam constantly announces that the conversation is over and to move on is one of the worst things about him and I'm surprised that Tim bites his tongue, especially considering that it's Tim's show and Adam should respect that.
It's hard to notice unless you've been around people like Adam but he also does the same thing often to Lydia, he doesn't seem to understand other people's perspectives, it was a small thing but Lydia was noticeably uncomfortable. They were discussing a video and Tim asks Lydia if she'd seen it, she said she doesn't think so and Adam immediately and aggressively calls her out and says "Yeah you have! Don't lie! You've seen it!" and you can tell Lydia is just visibly confused, she wasn't "lying" so it was strange for him to call her out as a liar but he kept going on at her, like a child accusing you of stealing their toy that they've lost.
The timcast I took that quote from was this one https://youtu.be/oco2vtSb51Y starting at the 1:55:50 mark. I cut out Tim's part in that quote because my post was getting long in the tooth, bit the tl;dw context was this:
Adam: I want to have logic based conversations with people, but they just wanna fight.
Tim: No, youre wrong, you want to have conversations, but they dont.
He literally just rephrased Adam's point. Adam was understandable pissed because tim had been doing that for the last few podcasts and he had enough. Tim's "epic rant" everyone likes happens right after, which I would say was more fueled by his anger at adam for standing up to him. Tim also noticeably toned down his contrarianism after this cast.
I've known people like adam and tim, and personal opinion here, the Tim's are far more annoying to me. The pseudo-moderate who are the golden mean fallacy personified. Anytime someone makes a statement outside what they consider neutral they immediately try to shut it down, and then play the neutral party card when called on it. And of course it's purely coincidental the middle ground is always where they happen to be standing.
I can understand why adam is becoming more aggressive. Being around people like tim means if you dont assert your point they twist and wave it off. He may not mean it, but that's a toxic environment that eats at you after a while.
You can see Tim quietly seething when Adam makes valid points and talks for longer than a few minutes sometimes. You can see the testiness when they disagree sometimes. They'll have a real ass argument one day on stream. Adam will try to push Tim off the fence on some topic and Tim will resist and Adam will call him on his shit live. I give it a few months.
Wasnt it supposed to be about aliens and lighter topics? Lol, Tim couldnt let this shit go for a few hours.
"I'm sorry man...." LOL. Tim is starting to be a bit annoying but I understand what he's up to. Straddling a fence rail must hurt your butt after awhile.
Nah that's not the case at all, pay closer attention. The vast majority of their heated discussions are often Adam thinking he knows everything because he's 'taken the red pill' and then forgetting that it was Tim that introduced him to this new world that he's experiencing and Adam trying to belittle Tim's experiences because he loves the attention he's getting from the Trump crowd now.
Often the cause of their arguments is almost always that they're arguing about two entirely different things, Adam still argues like a lefty and Tim gets carried away with pushing his side of the argument rather than realising that neither of them is listening to the other. It made me want to stop watching because it's entirely unproductive.
Hard disagree. The vast majority of their disagreements happen because Tim immediately shuts adam down when adam tries to make a point. At least, he used to before adam grew a set and told tim to fuck off. Rewatch the stream where tim and adam had their viral rants. 10 minutes before Adam's rant tim tries to shut adam down with his usual "No, you're wrong" and adam flat out tells him "No, I'm right. Say I'm right. Okay, moving on."
The reason adam gets pissed is because Tim never adds anything after shutting him down. He just rewords what adam says and pretends ot was his idea all along. This pisses adam off because hes done the actual work to research the topic, as opposed to tim whose resting on his elite news article reading skillz.
I think originally that was the case, Tim would say "not even that" to almost everything and yeah it was annoying, but it became a meme and Tim has definitely stopped or slowed down and doesn't do it in such an obnoxious way anymore.
The thing that actually really bothers me is exactly what you just quoted, when Adam gets aggressive and says "tell me I'm right, okay moving on" it's incredibly obnoxious, neither one of them wants to meet in the middle, the way Adam constantly announces that the conversation is over and to move on is one of the worst things about him and I'm surprised that Tim bites his tongue, especially considering that it's Tim's show and Adam should respect that.
It's hard to notice unless you've been around people like Adam but he also does the same thing often to Lydia, he doesn't seem to understand other people's perspectives, it was a small thing but Lydia was noticeably uncomfortable. They were discussing a video and Tim asks Lydia if she'd seen it, she said she doesn't think so and Adam immediately and aggressively calls her out and says "Yeah you have! Don't lie! You've seen it!" and you can tell Lydia is just visibly confused, she wasn't "lying" so it was strange for him to call her out as a liar but he kept going on at her, like a child accusing you of stealing their toy that they've lost.
The timcast I took that quote from was this one https://youtu.be/oco2vtSb51Y starting at the 1:55:50 mark. I cut out Tim's part in that quote because my post was getting long in the tooth, bit the tl;dw context was this:
Adam: I want to have logic based conversations with people, but they just wanna fight.
Tim: No, youre wrong, you want to have conversations, but they dont.
He literally just rephrased Adam's point. Adam was understandable pissed because tim had been doing that for the last few podcasts and he had enough. Tim's "epic rant" everyone likes happens right after, which I would say was more fueled by his anger at adam for standing up to him. Tim also noticeably toned down his contrarianism after this cast.
I've known people like adam and tim, and personal opinion here, the Tim's are far more annoying to me. The pseudo-moderate who are the golden mean fallacy personified. Anytime someone makes a statement outside what they consider neutral they immediately try to shut it down, and then play the neutral party card when called on it. And of course it's purely coincidental the middle ground is always where they happen to be standing.
I can understand why adam is becoming more aggressive. Being around people like tim means if you dont assert your point they twist and wave it off. He may not mean it, but that's a toxic environment that eats at you after a while.
They have a safe word I am sure. In case it gets to real Tim waves Adam off.