No doubt! To look at Iran half a century ago and what it is now, one realizes that a country can change 100% for the worse in a blink of the eye. What Sleepy Joe offers America is our Iran/Venezuela/China....... moment and future.
Wouldn’t this be more what happened if a far right movement came? That’s what happened in Iran, right? The far right came, that’s why you have the modest clothing, but it’s extreme modesty with covering the whole body. It’s the opposite of women’s rights with women having one half representation in court. They put their religion in charge, using sharia law, anti gay, all that. Not saying I agree with it, but wouldn’t this be the opposite of the left taking over our country? And while I like picture for this article, do we really want Iran to look exactly like America? In their mind, that’s probably counter culture, and we know where that culture leads because we’ve seen it here. But of course I’d love to see Iran reformed, just not by making it a carbon copy of America.
Maybe if you go by the leftist definition that the far right and far left are practically the same thing. I always go by the far left being total government and far right no government, and then most people are somewhere in between. Being a centrist inbetween communism and fascism makes no sense. The founding fathers were much more right wing than we are today because they built a small government.
I don't know much about the history of Iran, but is it true our CIA had a role in their rise? If so, I think its just another reason we get rid of the CIA.
I read they deposed him? I may have mixed it up. I do know they wanted the oil and the leadership in place wasn't playing ball so they orchestrated a revolution.
Who knows. Its all a giant mess made by globalist interference. Once they move in, there are more factions than you can shake a stick at. Just lile we have here now..NFAC, BLM, Antifa, Black Block, and today we had glow nazis (unnamed).
Us and the british installed the shah shortly after WW2 because the Iran gov't wanted to nationalize the oil industry that was previously run by British Petroleum. Then the islamists defeated the Shah in 1979 and took over. The shah was our ally.
If you can say that "the Hijab is freedom" with a straight face, ironically you should lose your ability to vote because clearly you are too stupid to make decisions.
Everytime I hear some fool say that, I ask them point blank: "So what happens if they take it off?"....and they have no answer. So I tell them what happens...
They're nice. It's just when I talk about trump, masks, or any type of politics that they get pretty triggered. I try to make sure not to talk about any of these and they're not too bad.
Yeah you don't need to abandon your mates you don't even need to be too much off a dick if they get red pilled. You do need to be there when they get red pilled to give them a beer and a chat.
While Liberalism can be distilled into well defined principles, we have another confirmation that Liberalism isn’t about adherence to objective principles.
They could have all the money in the world but their military tech could never compete. Didn't they sit on that oil for generations until we showed them how to take it out?
None of these were freed - they were destabilized by globalists Bush, Obama, Clinton, McCain, etc. and Islamists quickly rushed in to take over these regions.
The only way anything would change is if we took over the country, and governed it for a generation or two. I think of Douglas MacArthur being put in charge of rebuilding Japan after WW2. Look at Japan now, he did a damn good job.
I am not for middle eastern war. I am sick of there bullshit. I want out for everyone. I was just saying that was the only way I could think that we could return Iran to the 70s.
I don't believe that occupying those islamic nations would have the same effect as what happened to West Germany (+West Berlin) and Japan after WWII.
When we de- nazified Germany, there was a large portion of the populace that were never members of the Nazi party. There were still German citizens who were Weimar republic supporters, and others that were Imperial German advocates. Also many Protestant and Catholic Christians that were never Nazi supporters. We worked with them (and yes, some low level Nazis) to rebuild Germany.
As for Japan, I don't think we could have accomplished the rebuilding of that nation without the help of Emperor Hirohito. Allowing him to retain his position (albeit in a largely ceremonial role) was one of the wisest decisions that the Allies made. It allowed the whole nation of Japan to accept the defeat, and the Emperor was invaluable to rallying the Japanese people to transform their nation into what it is today.
The problem with the Islamic world is that there is really no one for us to work with like in Germany. The root of the problem is islam. There are just not enough non-islamic groups to work with. The Syriac Christian, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Jewish, and other religious groups have been almost completely forced out of the area.
And there isn't a deified leader that the whole area respects. Its mohammed and only mohammed for them. There is no Emperor Hirohito in the Islamic world, and there never will be. It's only mohammed for them. Even if there was a recognized ecumenical caliph of islam who denied the faith, he'd immediately be labeled an apostate.
The islamic world are going to have to find it within themselves to just WALK AWAY FROM ISLAM. Don't to to mosque. Don't celebrate Eid. Don't wear hijab. Wear short-sleeved shirts. You do see some brave souls in that part of the world doing these small acts of defiance. We should be encouraging this defiance of islam. But the reform of that area of the world has to come from within. We will never be able to force the change upon them.
There is no Emperor Hirohito in the Islamic world, and there never will be...
I get the sense that Saudi Arabia will continue to lead the way towards reform of Islam at a fundamental level. Thomas Wictor wrote a great piece about how Mohammad Bin Salman, the young prince who gets along just fine with POTUS Trump along with his Dad the King, was transforming what it meant to be muslim, what things like sharia law actually meant. And it wasn't an exercise in reform, but rather a re-writing of how things are...and always were or should be.
The easiest way to change something is to simply go in another direction, without even acknowledging the shifting sands that occur when that shift begins. Jews are suddently not mortal enemies forbidden from entering the country....done. Women are allowed to drive and write fatwas...was it every any different? That seems to be what they're doing....
Yes Prince Mohammed bin Salman has been a font for reform in SA. But I fear he could easily be removed from power by fundamentalists in the Saudi Royal family. He needs the support of the Saudi populace, and I'm not sold on it that he has that level of support.
On another subject, Turkey, which was probably the most reformist islamic nation, is now seriously regressing to a fundamentalist nature.
I know there is a huge rivalry between Turkey and Saudi Arabia over leadership of the sunni islamic world. Unfortunately, I feel the fundamentalists are winning the battle at the current time. Hopefully the reformers will go on the offense soon.
I didn't get the impression that the post was a call to free Iran, but rather a call for a free Iran. Same as saying "Free Hong Kong" wasn't calling for operations in South China.
Afghanistan at least was started by Soviets giving guns, and then neocons gave the Islamists guns. Iran was all commies's support though because the Shah was anticommunist.
The problem is that Americans vastly overestimated the danger of communists in some shithole abroad and vastly underestimated the danger of communists stateside.
Not all peoples can be free. If you need a book or a holy man to tell you right from wrong, then you're not evolved enough to govern yourself. Or maybe you just don't want to. I think this is fine. We need to stop policing the world and acting like every country can be like western civilization. It can't.
Never understood those who believe Iraq and Afghanistan wars were the source of problems, when the reality is that greatest region on Earth was made an absolute hellscape long before America.
Islam is the religion of the sword, not the dove. They are mixing that up with Christianity.
Let them free themselves. Which is a bigger threat to US democracy, China or Iran? Let's not invade either, and cut Beijing's subversive influence out of our republic.
Who gives a shit? They're in the Middle East. You free them and they'll just revert back to shithole status, given the influence of their powerful next door neighbors.
Every time I see this picture, I think about the hot leggy girl in the green dress. If she's still alive today, she's an old woman who is forced to wear a Hefty bag every day of her life. The joy of sitting on a park bench and reading a book while maybe turning a few heads is long lost to her. If Iran ever manages to free itself, they should round up the mullahs and turn them over to the old women. I bet that they would be very, very creative in their punishments.
Interesting post. What many people don't know is just how modern and pleasant Iran WAS before the islamic brotherhood came to town. They were advanced in math, science, women's rights... and look what happened. It has parallels to modern facism and the Left.
You can say that again! The one to her left in the orange jacket, too. And those skirt lengths! These days in America, how often do you see women wearing beige stockings casually? It's all sweatpants and sandals; I say bring back '60s/'70s fashion!
It is sad what the great civilization of Iran has become because of islam. Let that be a lesson to everybody else.
The original culture of Fars has been destroyed. The zoroastrians have been totally displaced from Iran. The name "Iran" itself is a play on the word "aryan", but today they have no recollection of it. They even destroyed their own script in order to adopt arabic as their script.
But the faras civilization is not dead. I am sure that so long as US doesn't fall to islam, a day will come when Faras will rise in its true form once again.
To be honest, I don't understand why we didn't ENCOURAGE the communists in the islamic nations. Communists generally are anti-religion. The commies would have been fighting the fundie islamists, just like the Soviets in Afghanistan. We could have just set back and let them fight it out. Naive Jimmy Carter was the one who started funding the mujahadeen, and once we were committed, Reagan was almost forced to keep it going to save face. Yeah, the Soviets were pushed out, but we should have just stayed out of that mess! Damn, we had some shitty CIA and state department officials in the 60s and 70s!
Such a shame. Iran is a land that has some stunning natural beauty, and so much historical legacy, too. What a shame it's been turned into a shithole.
Coming soon to an America near you if we don't fight back.
No doubt! To look at Iran half a century ago and what it is now, one realizes that a country can change 100% for the worse in a blink of the eye. What Sleepy Joe offers America is our Iran/Venezuela/China....... moment and future.
Wouldn’t this be more what happened if a far right movement came? That’s what happened in Iran, right? The far right came, that’s why you have the modest clothing, but it’s extreme modesty with covering the whole body. It’s the opposite of women’s rights with women having one half representation in court. They put their religion in charge, using sharia law, anti gay, all that. Not saying I agree with it, but wouldn’t this be the opposite of the left taking over our country? And while I like picture for this article, do we really want Iran to look exactly like America? In their mind, that’s probably counter culture, and we know where that culture leads because we’ve seen it here. But of course I’d love to see Iran reformed, just not by making it a carbon copy of America.
Maybe if you go by the leftist definition that the far right and far left are practically the same thing. I always go by the far left being total government and far right no government, and then most people are somewhere in between. Being a centrist inbetween communism and fascism makes no sense. The founding fathers were much more right wing than we are today because they built a small government.
They already are deeming beauty shameful and exulting images of beauty that avoid any possibility of sexual thought https://images.app.goo.gl/KrePVjvyJ9Vp77vp6
Wow. That is a bone chilling thought.
This scene is ALREADY illegal across most of America right now. It’s not coming soon. It’s here.
You can say that about any place that Islam resides in majority
The people are lovely too. I was watching Mark Wiens food tour of Iran and that is what stuck out, as well as the mouth watering food.
I don't know much about the history of Iran, but is it true our CIA had a role in their rise? If so, I think its just another reason we get rid of the CIA.
Its well known. They worked to depose the shah. Oil was involved.
That's bullshit until proven otherwise.
We propped the Shah up.
I read they deposed him? I may have mixed it up. I do know they wanted the oil and the leadership in place wasn't playing ball so they orchestrated a revolution.
i thought it was both lol
Who knows. Its all a giant mess made by globalist interference. Once they move in, there are more factions than you can shake a stick at. Just lile we have here now..NFAC, BLM, Antifa, Black Block, and today we had glow nazis (unnamed).
You’ve got it backwards
American and British intelligence staged a coup to put the Shah in power
The Islamic Revolution overthrew him
Us and the british installed the shah shortly after WW2 because the Iran gov't wanted to nationalize the oil industry that was previously run by British Petroleum. Then the islamists defeated the Shah in 1979 and took over. The shah was our ally.
Yes. Mika (of Morning Psycho Joe the murderer fame)'s dad proudly bragged about it all the time.
Yup the CIA are made up of pedophiles and traitors.
Abolish ICE? Nah, lets abolish the CIA instead 👌🏻
Islam is cancer
I think they love the totalitarian aspect.
Do they actually admire a patriarchy? Seems that way.
The patriarchal stuff is a detail. Give them a cruel master and underlings to abuse. The nasty women will love it.
They only like it because they view Islam as a way to weaken Western Civilization
When communists actually take over they tend to crack down on all forms of religion
Mohammad was a slave owning pedophile
Untied States of America, before liberalism
If you can say that "the Hijab is freedom" with a straight face, ironically you should lose your ability to vote because clearly you are too stupid to make decisions.
Everytime I hear some fool say that, I ask them point blank: "So what happens if they take it off?"....and they have no answer. So I tell them what happens...
Poor people. Will never know how good they had it. Such a shame seeing wealthy oil nations destroy themselves with authoritarian socialism.
Islam causes the social problems and the social problems cause the economic problems.
All starts with the devil. No man comes to the Father but by JESUS.
I always hated islam because it restricted women's rights under their sharia law and yet I'm the sexist one among my liberal friends.
I've also never understood how anyone can be pro LGBTwhatever and not be against Islam.
Iran is anti gay but pro trans
The Iranian government pays for sexual reassignment surgery for its citizens
Another reason to dislike Iran
liberal
friends
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They're nice. It's just when I talk about trump, masks, or any type of politics that they get pretty triggered. I try to make sure not to talk about any of these and they're not too bad.
Yeah you don't need to abandon your mates you don't even need to be too much off a dick if they get red pilled. You do need to be there when they get red pilled to give them a beer and a chat.
Why wouldn't you talk about it with them?
What's the worst that could happen?
Either: A.) Some semblance of logic and reason get through to them and they get red pilled
or
B.) They spurg out and it's hilarious.
My master is a good one, as long as I submit to his every whim.
While Liberalism can be distilled into well defined principles, we have another confirmation that Liberalism isn’t about adherence to objective principles.
Seriously, it doesn't make any sense. Anyone with functioning brain cells would be against Islam because they're extremely sexist and homophobic.
Don't forget the child rape.
I wish more people on our side would consider this
true
Democracy something something Israel good.
Am I a conservative yet guys?
Why you gotta bring Paul Ryan into this?
Based
Based post, based username, based Mel Gibson.
They could have all the money in the world but their military tech could never compete. Didn't they sit on that oil for generations until we showed them how to take it out?
C1A
How did freeing Iraq work out for us?
How did freeing Libya and freeing Syria work out?
None of these were freed - they were destabilized by globalists Bush, Obama, Clinton, McCain, etc. and Islamists quickly rushed in to take over these regions.
The only way anything would change is if we took over the country, and governed it for a generation or two. I think of Douglas MacArthur being put in charge of rebuilding Japan after WW2. Look at Japan now, he did a damn good job.
I am not for middle eastern war. I am sick of there bullshit. I want out for everyone. I was just saying that was the only way I could think that we could return Iran to the 70s.
muslims are not Japanese.
No one can fix 700 years of inbreeding within two generations.
Iran was Persia. They were conquered & enslaved by Muslims.
1500 years ago
I don't believe that occupying those islamic nations would have the same effect as what happened to West Germany (+West Berlin) and Japan after WWII.
When we de- nazified Germany, there was a large portion of the populace that were never members of the Nazi party. There were still German citizens who were Weimar republic supporters, and others that were Imperial German advocates. Also many Protestant and Catholic Christians that were never Nazi supporters. We worked with them (and yes, some low level Nazis) to rebuild Germany.
As for Japan, I don't think we could have accomplished the rebuilding of that nation without the help of Emperor Hirohito. Allowing him to retain his position (albeit in a largely ceremonial role) was one of the wisest decisions that the Allies made. It allowed the whole nation of Japan to accept the defeat, and the Emperor was invaluable to rallying the Japanese people to transform their nation into what it is today.
The problem with the Islamic world is that there is really no one for us to work with like in Germany. The root of the problem is islam. There are just not enough non-islamic groups to work with. The Syriac Christian, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Jewish, and other religious groups have been almost completely forced out of the area.
And there isn't a deified leader that the whole area respects. Its mohammed and only mohammed for them. There is no Emperor Hirohito in the Islamic world, and there never will be. It's only mohammed for them. Even if there was a recognized ecumenical caliph of islam who denied the faith, he'd immediately be labeled an apostate.
The islamic world are going to have to find it within themselves to just WALK AWAY FROM ISLAM. Don't to to mosque. Don't celebrate Eid. Don't wear hijab. Wear short-sleeved shirts. You do see some brave souls in that part of the world doing these small acts of defiance. We should be encouraging this defiance of islam. But the reform of that area of the world has to come from within. We will never be able to force the change upon them.
I get the sense that Saudi Arabia will continue to lead the way towards reform of Islam at a fundamental level. Thomas Wictor wrote a great piece about how Mohammad Bin Salman, the young prince who gets along just fine with POTUS Trump along with his Dad the King, was transforming what it meant to be muslim, what things like sharia law actually meant. And it wasn't an exercise in reform, but rather a re-writing of how things are...and always were or should be.
The easiest way to change something is to simply go in another direction, without even acknowledging the shifting sands that occur when that shift begins. Jews are suddently not mortal enemies forbidden from entering the country....done. Women are allowed to drive and write fatwas...was it every any different? That seems to be what they're doing....
Yes Prince Mohammed bin Salman has been a font for reform in SA. But I fear he could easily be removed from power by fundamentalists in the Saudi Royal family. He needs the support of the Saudi populace, and I'm not sold on it that he has that level of support.
On another subject, Turkey, which was probably the most reformist islamic nation, is now seriously regressing to a fundamentalist nature.
I know there is a huge rivalry between Turkey and Saudi Arabia over leadership of the sunni islamic world. Unfortunately, I feel the fundamentalists are winning the battle at the current time. Hopefully the reformers will go on the offense soon.
For Iran's case, you'd have to take over the entire region. Otherwise, their peaceful neighbors will just revert them back to peacefulness.
Well I'm sure that won't happen if we invade Afghanistan, and I'm sure it's not those same globalists pushing for regime change in Iran
I didn't get the impression that the post was a call to free Iran, but rather a call for a free Iran. Same as saying "Free Hong Kong" wasn't calling for operations in South China.
FREE TIBET!
"I'll take it!"
-Peter Griffin
When you exit through the gift shop Nepal can be found at half-off.
After another 19 years of occupation I'm sure Afghanistan will finally have freedom!
Free America!
AMERICA FIRST!
Right?
We have domestic problems that need solving
Iran isn't our problem. If Saudi Arabia and Israel are afraid of Iran they can deal with their problem themselves.
Iran is EVERYBODY'S problem.
But there are ways of dealing with them that don't involve putting boots on the ground.
and then the rest of the world
Based
Fuck this. Let Iran free itself. Just stop fucking with their shit.
Saudi Arabia and Israel (subversively) should deal with Iran - they’re the target of their power struggles.
I think that goes without saying.
Mindux neocons keep giving guns to the crazies in the region and duping America into trying to fix things.
Afghanistan at least was started by Soviets giving guns, and then neocons gave the Islamists guns. Iran was all commies's support though because the Shah was anticommunist.
The problem is that Americans vastly overestimated the danger of communists in some shithole abroad and vastly underestimated the danger of communists stateside.
I "love" how all the countries the US "rescued" are practically communist anyway.
Not all peoples can be free. If you need a book or a holy man to tell you right from wrong, then you're not evolved enough to govern yourself. Or maybe you just don't want to. I think this is fine. We need to stop policing the world and acting like every country can be like western civilization. It can't.
Never understood those who believe Iraq and Afghanistan wars were the source of problems, when the reality is that greatest region on Earth was made an absolute hellscape long before America.
Islam is the religion of the sword, not the dove. They are mixing that up with Christianity.
One reason I’m for Trump is because he wants us out of the wars in the Mid East. War with Iran will not be good for America. America First!!
It's not gonna be good for Iran either. So many innocent lives would be unnecessarily lost on both sides (not that it ever is necessary)
Nah bro we need to incinerate Iranian conscripts with hellfire missiles in order to help them!
'Murica!
Obama paid billions of dollars to make sure these women would never be free again.
From who?
Islam
And in this image's case, burkas.
Seriously?? We are dangling from the edge of a cliff right now. Iran is the least of our fucking worries.
Let them free themselves. Which is a bigger threat to US democracy, China or Iran? Let's
not invade either, andcut Beijing's subversive influence out of our republic.My friend China and Iran just signed a huge trade deal. I think China is trading weapons to Iran for cheap oil. China gets a lot of oil from Iran.
But but but... if they doubled their national brainpower, they might ditch Islam! Then they'll need Hollywood to justify their pedophilia. Very haram.
Let Iran free themselves
Who gives a shit? They're in the Middle East. You free them and they'll just revert back to shithole status, given the influence of their powerful next door neighbors.
Not our business. America first.
Islam + Liberalism = Death 💀
They are one of the last 7 nations of the world without a central bank.
He’s correct
It was only the Shah’s wealthy cronies and their families who adopted western lifestyles
Most Iranians were conservative Muslims, which is why they overthrew the Shah and established an Islamic theocracy.
Thanks Deep State.
Let Iran be.
Every time I see this picture, I think about the hot leggy girl in the green dress. If she's still alive today, she's an old woman who is forced to wear a Hefty bag every day of her life. The joy of sitting on a park bench and reading a book while maybe turning a few heads is long lost to her. If Iran ever manages to free itself, they should round up the mullahs and turn them over to the old women. I bet that they would be very, very creative in their punishments.
Aryan
I went to college with many young people who fled the Ayotollah revolution.
If you want to die for Israel do it on your own damn time. NO MORE FOREIGN WARS
Free the UK
But let's not just toss our military over there.
Whenever I see this picture, I wonder, “where are they now? What do they think about what has happened since then?”
(in announcer's voice)
"That's RIGHT!!! It's a Burqa-Free Weekend here on Iran TV!!"
TFW no Iranian GF
We need to be careful because the USA is next if we don't fight back
Nah, USA is worse. I’d take Muslim theocracy over Marxist shithole
Interesting post. What many people don't know is just how modern and pleasant Iran WAS before the islamic brotherhood came to town. They were advanced in math, science, women's rights... and look what happened. It has parallels to modern facism and the Left.
Low key have a crush on the lady on the right
I bet those Iranian grandmas are still hot under their burkas.
the one in the green is cute! :)
You can say that again! The one to her left in the orange jacket, too. And those skirt lengths! These days in America, how often do you see women wearing beige stockings casually? It's all sweatpants and sandals; I say bring back '60s/'70s fashion!
Should say: Make Iran Great Again.
It is sad what the great civilization of Iran has become because of islam. Let that be a lesson to everybody else.
The original culture of Fars has been destroyed. The zoroastrians have been totally displaced from Iran. The name "Iran" itself is a play on the word "aryan", but today they have no recollection of it. They even destroyed their own script in order to adopt arabic as their script.
But the faras civilization is not dead. I am sure that so long as US doesn't fall to islam, a day will come when Faras will rise in its true form once again.
Americans seem ignorant on this history. I looked into it because Mark Levin kept calling Tehran Islamonazis.
I found this article on the internet.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/irans-unholy-alliance-with-hitler-enshrined-in-a-name/
And I confirmed it's etymology.
Etymology of Iran.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Iran#etymonline_v_12217
Etymology of Aryan.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Aryan?ref=etymonline_crossreference
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Aryan#etymonline_v_17058
Lastly, this picture of courageous Iranian women protesting the Burka after the Revolution is ignored by Feminists.
https://ifunny.co/picture/women-protesting-the-forced-hijab-in-iran-days-after-the-GV0Iapkv6?gallery=category&query=memes
Thank you.
I always call that nation Persia; I hold to the tradition that because I am an American, I am also a Roman.
And also because I hate Nazis, who were Socialist scum of the Earth.
Can we get a FREE AMERICA up in here?
To be honest, I don't understand why we didn't ENCOURAGE the communists in the islamic nations. Communists generally are anti-religion. The commies would have been fighting the fundie islamists, just like the Soviets in Afghanistan. We could have just set back and let them fight it out. Naive Jimmy Carter was the one who started funding the mujahadeen, and once we were committed, Reagan was almost forced to keep it going to save face. Yeah, the Soviets were pushed out, but we should have just stayed out of that mess! Damn, we had some shitty CIA and state department officials in the 60s and 70s!
What the Islamic Brotherhood did to an entire region is unfathomable. Their terrorism has destroyed an entire region.
Fuck Islam.