They can vote for him sure... but Transgenderism is not compatible with Traditional American Values or Conservatism, and they are not on our team. Period.
Agree. My take on it is very similar to how I view addiction and substance abuse problems, and this is based off my past experience as an addict, researching addiction, and having been in recovery for years. To me, anyway, it's almost the exact same condition, with the person suffering very similar mental problems, and the symptom of coping with those mental issues is the only difference. In one case it's drug use as the coping mechanism, in this case it's thinking changing your gender will solve those issues. Suicide numbers tell us it won't solve anything. That said, addiction and substance abuse can be overcome, and when it is, the person comes to understand that the drug use wasn't so much their problem as it was a solution (that stopped working) to an array of other problems. After that is realized, and you understand drug use won't help you cope with your mental issues, it becomes easier to stop and stay clean. This is the same thing with gender dysphoria. In both cases, you have to recognize your mental issues, understand what's wrong, accept who you are as a person and that no substance, sex change, or any external force is what will make you better. Allowing and enabling sex change/trans, to me, is no different than enabling drug use, telling someone w/ body image issues it's ok to be bulimic, etc.
And I have no sympathy for the "well how would you feel if you didn't feel comfortable in your own body?" argument that I always get as a response when I state my belief. Like, that's literally the human condition: feeling uncomfortable, not liking things about yourself, and coming to terms with who you are, accepting the things you cannot change, and taking the initiative to change the things you can about yourself, and whatever it is you don't like. I do know what it's like to feel uncomfortable in my own body -- men go through very similar issues as women do w/ an expected body image, etc. I went to the gym to change what I could, and accepted that my dick is the size it is for the things I couldn't change lol (here comes the ball busting -- bring it! lol). My fiancee (very similar beliefs and values to me) has mentioned a few times she wants a boob job (they aren't even small!) and I always have to kind of run through this same lecture and tell her that changing that shit about yourself isn't going to make you happier, just be happy with who you are.
On a side note: I remember a couple, a female, and a trans female to male, came into the garage where I used to work, and I was under the hood with a coworker, and we were racking our brains trying to figure out (knowing that it was two biological females): "sooo.... are we dealing with lesbians? or is this a straight couple? But she's still a she," and we're just quietly going back and forth asking each other these questions trying so hard to not just bust out laughing. Good times. I really miss working in the garage for that reason, where we all had no filter, our personalities could be fully let out, etc. Breakbacking work that didn't pay great -- now I work at a college for way more pay and less work but I basically have to be an actor every day at work, kinda sucks ... ight I'm rambling now.
Everyone: trans or not: we all got problems -- identify and acknowledge them, find the right and healthy way of dealing with it, know that nothing external will solve those internal issues, change what you can, accept what you can't !
I think we can all agree that we should not be actively harassing or persecuting Trans people.
However, there have to be a couple of rules set up here:
Trans people should be left alone ON THE CONDITION that they leave regular people alone. It is not needed to push "diversity" in the workplace, or have parades with naked people flinging dildos around.
They should stay the hell away from schools. Let kids grow up without any indoctrination. Give the kids at least 'till 18 to decide what they want. If the kid was meant to be trans, guess what, by 18 they would know already either way, right?
Should they opt to seek help, they should be welcomed, and help sought for them with love and kindness.
Should they opt to embrace their condition, they should fight for leaving others the fuck along, which means they should fight for points 1 and 2
Thanks, as a TransPede, not all of us are like the lunatic Left.
I agree with everything you mentioned, especially leaving the kids alone to grow up without indoctrination.
My mental condition should be mine only and those that honestly and truly share it, not less than .01 of the population.
My belief is genuine, real Trans people should keep their life happy, stay out of people's business and let live while living.
I'm tired of the screeching Left, Marxist, He She wannabe's, they make us look REAAAAAALLY bad.
I don't blame you, I get it too, because I pass so well, I would be considered Transphobic for even misgendering a Leftist lunatic, it's not just you and others, it includes me and other Trans and Right Wing LGBT people too.
a lot of the gay community is pretty damn degenerate but trust me, there's some gay people like myself who try to be normal people just living our lives to mind our own damn business. I feel like I only have to make my attraction for the same sex known because I have to explain where I'm coming from lol.
I don't really believe in religion, I think there could be a god but I feel like the biggest thing Christianity has mostly right is most of the morals it has. For me that's just to be the best person I can be. People use religion to create a superiority complex/righteousness.
Also don't forget about
Matthew 7:1-3
to me that would imply you shouldn't judge people on their sins because of your own. That's the issue I have with religion is everyone has sin, beyond "The Original Sin" but beyond the 10 commandments/7 deadly sins how are other sins worse than another?
I'm big on the whole "Mind your damn business" kind of thing. lol
I think the media just acts that way. I don't think even in most liberal states fathers would be happy if their sons grew up to be sodomites. Perhaps what occurred was mass-desensitation and facade?
Lmao at shills downvoting this. Apparently we need to tolerate children being pumped full of hormones and men forcing themselves into women's sporting events
“Anything goes” is the Marxist ethos, not ours. Love the sinner, hate the sin. Transgenderism is mental disorder that leads to suicide and body mutilation. Celebrating it is indeed degeneracy.
Transgenderism like many other leftist tenets started out disturbing and ended with children having hormones pumped into them. So if a transgender wants to vote Trump that's fine but a large number of them are degenerates and we should not back down one inch on that front.
yeah I dislike transgenders a lot lol
I think instead of forcing it on kids and mutilating your body you should really be discouraged, instead better therapies in helping them feel more comfortable in their bodies without altering it majorly
Please, without going to the Bible or Christianity, I implore you to address limited information and scarce studies to point out a better alternative.
I understand your point, but, if you really want to help us, look for the real solution, not some shrink that will say what you want them to say, which is a double standard.
I agree though, nearly all these Transtrenders are not even trans, abusing kids and causing problems that should not exist.
I guarantee, if this Trans problem didn't sky rocket in popularity, you wouldn't be complaining about me right now.
I would not be so harsh as to call them degenerates, but would say their behavior and decisions are absolutely degenerate. Particularly in terms of how they are now pushed onto the impressionability and innocence of youth and normalized. How we allowed ourselves to get screwed that hard is just mindblowing. Treating it as an “identity.” I’m libertarian enough to say “go and idenify how you want, but because it’s an abnormality that causes revulsion in a majority of people, do it where the public is not forced to be confronted with it.” If anything should be legally considered sexual harassment, it’s this stuff being pushed on the public.
Pocahontas wanted transgenderism represented in her cabinet positions if she got elected. Thank God the American public would never vote her into power.
I almost didn't agree with this, but then I realized, you have a good point here.
Same with me, I would hate for people to guess who I really am because it's so popular to be a Trender.
I don't want this to be popular either, I am one out of who knows how many people that have this Mental Disorder.
Not all of us get surgeries, another misconception the Right also makes is that we deny our biology.
I can admit right here that I am biologically Male.
One problem I have with people on the right, is they also have a lack of research, so does the Left.
There are problems on both sides and everyone wants to point fingers.
I don't play sides, but the Left turned me away long ago after I realized how bad it really was, I am independent and think for myself.
I side with the Right more because they are the only people that actually think.
Hey, I appreciate it, nice way of having a respectful discourse! :D
Thank you for understanding too.
That's nice to know, I see a lot of people just spouting nonsensical comments towards honest, genuine, hard working TransPedes like me that just want the life of a Woman.
I can understand not many would understand, accept or even find my lifestyle remotely okay or acceptable, but I can say that for some believers that take their religion to the point where Leftists take Marxism.
A Christian once told me that Faith is personal and a relationship between you and GOD, I understood that but I am Atheist, I can only understand, so I completely get where you are coming from.
Being always told that I am a vile, disgusting, sinning, piece of shit doesn't help ANYTHING, in fact, it just makes things worse.
I don't go around hating those that Worship, but they take their frustration from a few bad apples entirely on people like me and it really gets under my skin.
You aren't wrong though, there are many people, lumped in with me, that take this Transgender thing WAAAAAAY too far to the point where I said "Fuck it!" and left.
I am equally disgusted and annoyed by the people that betrayed me.
I don't find Christianity particularly interesting, but I am not going to tell people they are wrong, we have to work together.
But say anything about Christianity to a Christian community and the bullying begins.
I don't hurt anyone, I only wish to assimilate and work together to get our freedom, spirit and the interest in making America the best and most prosperous Country it can be, back.
Only problem is, the Right wants to complain about a .01% of the population and the Left wants to believe everyone should be Trans.
They are both hypocrites in their own right, but we also need to address one important thing, the ability to fucking 'get along.'
I barely see ANYONE getting along anymore and we fight each-other over our stupidity and blindness, but we have no problem behaving like the Left.
The Left can't deal with reality and the Right can't deal with delusion, but the irony is, we are deluded that we fight each-other, playing right into the Governments hands.
Thanks though, let me know if you have any questions, I am not like other TransWomen out there! :D
The real problem is that the left has, for political reasons, intentionally mixed up people with legitimate problems and who are deserving of our sympathy and support with people who are at best confused, or, at worst, are the aforementioned degenerates.
This is their playbook on issue after issue, since before I was born.
As a gun-toting, bible-thumping nationalist, I do care about the one in ten thousand or so people who are born with sex anomalies. I just don't think we should show how much we care by manufacturing more of them by telling every confused child to mutilate their bodies.
In the same way, I do care about the environment. I want nature to be abundant and clean, and I want future generations to be able to enjoy it as much as I have. But I don't believe that the best way to accomplish that is for the western world to convert to stone age communism.
And I do care about the poor. I want to encourage as many of them as possible to want to get out of poverty, and I want to help them accomplish it. But I don't think that we should "help" by making multi-generational poverty a comfortable and legitimate lifestyle choice, or by encouraging young people to unwittingly make the bad choices that will land them there.
Amen. Lets all remember that next time someone is going on about "Based Trannies for Trump".
These people aren't on our side. Transgenderism is not compatible with traditional American values or conservatism.
You know, some may be nice people, but I'll be damned if that's not true.
They can vote for him sure... but Transgenderism is not compatible with Traditional American Values or Conservatism, and they are not on our team. Period.
Agreed. I'm all for getting them the mental help they deserve, but calling it normal does not coincide with my values
I hope they all get help someday too. It's an extremely sad mental illness.
Agree. My take on it is very similar to how I view addiction and substance abuse problems, and this is based off my past experience as an addict, researching addiction, and having been in recovery for years. To me, anyway, it's almost the exact same condition, with the person suffering very similar mental problems, and the symptom of coping with those mental issues is the only difference. In one case it's drug use as the coping mechanism, in this case it's thinking changing your gender will solve those issues. Suicide numbers tell us it won't solve anything. That said, addiction and substance abuse can be overcome, and when it is, the person comes to understand that the drug use wasn't so much their problem as it was a solution (that stopped working) to an array of other problems. After that is realized, and you understand drug use won't help you cope with your mental issues, it becomes easier to stop and stay clean. This is the same thing with gender dysphoria. In both cases, you have to recognize your mental issues, understand what's wrong, accept who you are as a person and that no substance, sex change, or any external force is what will make you better. Allowing and enabling sex change/trans, to me, is no different than enabling drug use, telling someone w/ body image issues it's ok to be bulimic, etc.
And I have no sympathy for the "well how would you feel if you didn't feel comfortable in your own body?" argument that I always get as a response when I state my belief. Like, that's literally the human condition: feeling uncomfortable, not liking things about yourself, and coming to terms with who you are, accepting the things you cannot change, and taking the initiative to change the things you can about yourself, and whatever it is you don't like. I do know what it's like to feel uncomfortable in my own body -- men go through very similar issues as women do w/ an expected body image, etc. I went to the gym to change what I could, and accepted that my dick is the size it is for the things I couldn't change lol (here comes the ball busting -- bring it! lol). My fiancee (very similar beliefs and values to me) has mentioned a few times she wants a boob job (they aren't even small!) and I always have to kind of run through this same lecture and tell her that changing that shit about yourself isn't going to make you happier, just be happy with who you are.
On a side note: I remember a couple, a female, and a trans female to male, came into the garage where I used to work, and I was under the hood with a coworker, and we were racking our brains trying to figure out (knowing that it was two biological females): "sooo.... are we dealing with lesbians? or is this a straight couple? But she's still a she," and we're just quietly going back and forth asking each other these questions trying so hard to not just bust out laughing. Good times. I really miss working in the garage for that reason, where we all had no filter, our personalities could be fully let out, etc. Breakbacking work that didn't pay great -- now I work at a college for way more pay and less work but I basically have to be an actor every day at work, kinda sucks ... ight I'm rambling now.
Everyone: trans or not: we all got problems -- identify and acknowledge them, find the right and healthy way of dealing with it, know that nothing external will solve those internal issues, change what you can, accept what you can't !
I think we can all agree that we should not be actively harassing or persecuting Trans people.
However, there have to be a couple of rules set up here:
Thanks, as a TransPede, not all of us are like the lunatic Left. I agree with everything you mentioned, especially leaving the kids alone to grow up without indoctrination. My mental condition should be mine only and those that honestly and truly share it, not less than .01 of the population.
My belief is genuine, real Trans people should keep their life happy, stay out of people's business and let live while living. I'm tired of the screeching Left, Marxist, He She wannabe's, they make us look REAAAAAALLY bad.
leaving them alone never works out. we are on the verge of a second civil war because we left everyone alone.
I don't blame you, I get it too, because I pass so well, I would be considered Transphobic for even misgendering a Leftist lunatic, it's not just you and others, it includes me and other Trans and Right Wing LGBT people too.
They stick it on all of us.
yes there is
I am.
Transgenderism is degenerate. Stop retreating. Have some standards on right and wrong.
Homosexuality is degenerate and also a sin. Everyone retreated on that.
a lot of the gay community is pretty damn degenerate but trust me, there's some gay people like myself who try to be normal people just living our lives to mind our own damn business. I feel like I only have to make my attraction for the same sex known because I have to explain where I'm coming from lol.
I don't really believe in religion, I think there could be a god but I feel like the biggest thing Christianity has mostly right is most of the morals it has. For me that's just to be the best person I can be. People use religion to create a superiority complex/righteousness.
Also don't forget about Matthew 7:1-3 to me that would imply you shouldn't judge people on their sins because of your own. That's the issue I have with religion is everyone has sin, beyond "The Original Sin" but beyond the 10 commandments/7 deadly sins how are other sins worse than another?
I'm big on the whole "Mind your damn business" kind of thing. lol
Non believers retreated on that. Believers who opposed should have kept loving them while they disagreed.
I think the media just acts that way. I don't think even in most liberal states fathers would be happy if their sons grew up to be sodomites. Perhaps what occurred was mass-desensitation and facade?
I certainly didn't retreat lol
Whether it's a sin or not, it's gross.
There is nothing "brave" or "empowering" about one man penetrating another man's rectum. It's gross. And gay.
Lmao at shills downvoting this. Apparently we need to tolerate children being pumped full of hormones and men forcing themselves into women's sporting events
No we don't, I am Trans and I want the children to be left alone.
FTFY
“Anything goes” is the Marxist ethos, not ours. Love the sinner, hate the sin. Transgenderism is mental disorder that leads to suicide and body mutilation. Celebrating it is indeed degeneracy.
Reject Wokism.
Transgenderism like many other leftist tenets started out disturbing and ended with children having hormones pumped into them. So if a transgender wants to vote Trump that's fine but a large number of them are degenerates and we should not back down one inch on that front.
yeah I dislike transgenders a lot lol I think instead of forcing it on kids and mutilating your body you should really be discouraged, instead better therapies in helping them feel more comfortable in their bodies without altering it majorly
Please, without going to the Bible or Christianity, I implore you to address limited information and scarce studies to point out a better alternative.
I understand your point, but, if you really want to help us, look for the real solution, not some shrink that will say what you want them to say, which is a double standard.
I agree though, nearly all these Transtrenders are not even trans, abusing kids and causing problems that should not exist. I guarantee, if this Trans problem didn't sky rocket in popularity, you wouldn't be complaining about me right now.
The left also taints you.
Real and genuine Trans people, like me, stay away from kids and let parents raise their own personal hell spawns without interference.
If anything, I get disgusted when I see the Left tainting kids like this, not just you and others like you.
I would not be so harsh as to call them degenerates, but would say their behavior and decisions are absolutely degenerate. Particularly in terms of how they are now pushed onto the impressionability and innocence of youth and normalized. How we allowed ourselves to get screwed that hard is just mindblowing. Treating it as an “identity.” I’m libertarian enough to say “go and idenify how you want, but because it’s an abnormality that causes revulsion in a majority of people, do it where the public is not forced to be confronted with it.” If anything should be legally considered sexual harassment, it’s this stuff being pushed on the public.
Not all of us are like that, that is why I became an Independent Conservative. We aren't your enemy, the Marxists are.
I'm voting for Trump, based Tranny here :D
Thanks :)
It is actually child abuse, and they are damaged by adults they want acceptance from, pushing it on them.
Whatever it is, its evil.
Pocahontas wanted transgenderism represented in her cabinet positions if she got elected. Thank God the American public would never vote her into power.
disgusting tbh.
A transgender minor. She made that clear.
These people are sick
Never say never. Look at the 0bama administration.
0bama didnt have a tranny in the cabinet, but that's just because Michael was in the closet.
I totally agree that its often a severe mental disorder.
The problem is not inherently the transgenderism, which is a mental disorder that I do not think can be cured.
The problem lies in being prideful of that disorder, and promoting it as an acceptable "choice," especially around children.
I almost didn't agree with this, but then I realized, you have a good point here. Same with me, I would hate for people to guess who I really am because it's so popular to be a Trender. I don't want this to be popular either, I am one out of who knows how many people that have this Mental Disorder.
Not all of us get surgeries, another misconception the Right also makes is that we deny our biology. I can admit right here that I am biologically Male.
One problem I have with people on the right, is they also have a lack of research, so does the Left. There are problems on both sides and everyone wants to point fingers.
I don't play sides, but the Left turned me away long ago after I realized how bad it really was, I am independent and think for myself. I side with the Right more because they are the only people that actually think.
Hey, I appreciate it, nice way of having a respectful discourse! :D Thank you for understanding too.
That's nice to know, I see a lot of people just spouting nonsensical comments towards honest, genuine, hard working TransPedes like me that just want the life of a Woman.
I can understand not many would understand, accept or even find my lifestyle remotely okay or acceptable, but I can say that for some believers that take their religion to the point where Leftists take Marxism. A Christian once told me that Faith is personal and a relationship between you and GOD, I understood that but I am Atheist, I can only understand, so I completely get where you are coming from.
Being always told that I am a vile, disgusting, sinning, piece of shit doesn't help ANYTHING, in fact, it just makes things worse. I don't go around hating those that Worship, but they take their frustration from a few bad apples entirely on people like me and it really gets under my skin.
You aren't wrong though, there are many people, lumped in with me, that take this Transgender thing WAAAAAAY too far to the point where I said "Fuck it!" and left. I am equally disgusted and annoyed by the people that betrayed me.
I don't find Christianity particularly interesting, but I am not going to tell people they are wrong, we have to work together. But say anything about Christianity to a Christian community and the bullying begins.
I don't hurt anyone, I only wish to assimilate and work together to get our freedom, spirit and the interest in making America the best and most prosperous Country it can be, back. Only problem is, the Right wants to complain about a .01% of the population and the Left wants to believe everyone should be Trans. They are both hypocrites in their own right, but we also need to address one important thing, the ability to fucking 'get along.'
I barely see ANYONE getting along anymore and we fight each-other over our stupidity and blindness, but we have no problem behaving like the Left.
The Left can't deal with reality and the Right can't deal with delusion, but the irony is, we are deluded that we fight each-other, playing right into the Governments hands.
Thanks though, let me know if you have any questions, I am not like other TransWomen out there! :D
All this sympathy eventually breeds a position of weakness, though.
The real problem is that the left has, for political reasons, intentionally mixed up people with legitimate problems and who are deserving of our sympathy and support with people who are at best confused, or, at worst, are the aforementioned degenerates.
This is their playbook on issue after issue, since before I was born.
As a gun-toting, bible-thumping nationalist, I do care about the one in ten thousand or so people who are born with sex anomalies. I just don't think we should show how much we care by manufacturing more of them by telling every confused child to mutilate their bodies.
In the same way, I do care about the environment. I want nature to be abundant and clean, and I want future generations to be able to enjoy it as much as I have. But I don't believe that the best way to accomplish that is for the western world to convert to stone age communism.
And I do care about the poor. I want to encourage as many of them as possible to want to get out of poverty, and I want to help them accomplish it. But I don't think that we should "help" by making multi-generational poverty a comfortable and legitimate lifestyle choice, or by encouraging young people to unwittingly make the bad choices that will land them there.
And so on, and so on.
Hear hear!
This TransPede appreciates it, we mean you, your family and children no harm! :D