I'm not saying he wasn't very good. He was. But he's closer to a Rodger Maris level than he was to truly great ballplayers who were his contemporaries like DiMaggio, Mantle, Williams, etc.
He only had one year with an OPS of 1.000 or greater, and in his best year, he played like a great ballplayer,, but he regressed back to very good.
I don't think Jackie would mind at all being in the same tier as Roger Maris.
I think it's a matter of semantics. It seems you're operating as if "Great" is the top level, where other people like myself call that the G.O.A.T. tier (greatest of all time).
league mvp, six time all star, ROTY, batting champion and world series champ is pretty great.
I'm not saying he wasn't very good. He was. But he's closer to a Rodger Maris level than he was to truly great ballplayers who were his contemporaries like DiMaggio, Mantle, Williams, etc.
He only had one year with an OPS of 1.000 or greater, and in his best year, he played like a great ballplayer,, but he regressed back to very good.
I don't think Jackie would mind at all being in the same tier as Roger Maris.
I think it's a matter of semantics. It seems you're operating as if "Great" is the top level, where other people like myself call that the G.O.A.T. tier (greatest of all time).
And I'm not saying that being on Maris' level is in any way insulting.
And yeah, we are talking semantics, ultimately.