These morons want more cities to be like Minneapolis. They take away your police, take your guns, use YOUR tax money to protect themselves with armed security. Take away your private health insurance, take away your private education, take away your amendment rights. The government now owns you. President Trump is fighting to let you keep all these rights and yet you fight him by saying you’re fighting against his oppression? You’re asking for more fucking oppression than you’ve ever had in your life! It’s not that hard to understand.
I’ve always argued that conservatives want to give everyone the chance to be rich while democrats want to give everyone the opportunity to be poor.
This was proven true last month when someone asked the Minneapolis city council how they would respond to violent crime with no police and the councilwoman said that if you’re assaulted you should “check your privilege.”
80% of the Republican Party is corrupt and have sold out true conservative values. President Trump needs to separate and create his own party and take the real remaining republicans with him. These socialists want nothing but misery and destruction of the people meanwhile they get to enjoy all the riches they can with no one being to touch them.
To be honest with you, if the republicans don’t put out a candidate close to as strong as President Trump in 2024, the republicans will likely lose. Trump is literally the entire glue holding the Republican Party together. Tucker Carlson is the next hope for the party if he wants to run.
I think Tucker is considering it. I've seen a few articles suggesting it based on a few things they see in Washington. Any of those 3 would be good, but I think Tucker has the charisma and audience to win a Trump-sized audience. America doesn't know Gaetz, so that would be a harder sell, I think. But he's great. Jim Jordan and Tom Fitton, too.
Jim Jordan would be really cool to see. Haven't heard about the Tucker leads, interesting. At this point, I'd vote for any GOP that isn't an obvious Uniparty slug.
Agreed. Trump pragmatically looked at the situation and determined that hijacking one of the two major parties and riding it to victory was the only way to win.
Trump learned the lesson of Ross Perot's campaign. Perot was clearly the best candidate, but it didn't matter.
Perot would have won if he hadn’t dropped out. He later claimed that he and his family were receiving threats and that is why he dropped out. The fake news called that a conspiracy theory. After watching the politburos in real time acting against Trump, I believe him now.
Be honest....we're conservative leaning populists. The fact that no one here screamed bloody murder when we just added $ 3T to the national debt and are thinking about doing that....again, tells you we aren't true conservatives.
We're gonna argue the specifics of borrowing a shitload of money everyone knows up front we can never EVER repay, and call it a day. If we were conservatives, we would have said no fucking way to the first stimulus, and no fucking way to whatever it is they are considering now.
I read a theory on here that Trump is ok with crashing the dollar, because we could then move back to gold/crypto standard and leave China with most of our worthless dollar-denominated securities.
The problem with that is it leave Americans who were thrifty and invested holding the bag, too, as their dollars become worthless. We don't want to become Zimbabwe.
The shit right now is ultimately conservative. If the Fed doesn’t Goode the money supply we will have massive deflation and if we have another prolonged Great Depression level economic setback the liberals will absolutely install a Chinese style communism. The Fed and Trump are holding back a massive deluge. It cost a lot to win WWII and this shit right now is just as big and important.
Thanks for bringing up the bailout. It's a terrible policy that will have disastrous consequences. Fiscal conservatism is dead, and whichever party is in power will now have a free hand to run up the federal tab to bail out or pay off their constituencies.
Yet it was politically brilliant for the President. I do not think the Democrats expected him to run to the left of them when they sprang the shut down, and not doing so would have doomed his 2020 candidacy for certain.
The bailout is unfortunate, but it's to keep the country afloat. With these lockdowns, it was absolutely unheard of. Millions of people were, and are, teetering on an edge.
Is it great? No. But it's better than almost everyone crashing. There are a lot of businesses that simply aren't going to come back after this.
Money can be remade by the government over time. Brands are hard to make. Jobs can be hard to be kept. Money is rough to make right now.
Besides, fiscal conservatism isn't really what the term conservative means, though it can be a trait of conservatism.
There would never be a conservative in any office again if the Republican party split.
Since 2016, we should have been doing all we could to infiltrate and encourage Bernie supporters to split and form their own socialist party. The 2016 DNC was the perfect time to do it. At the same time we should be trying to completely reform the GOP and bring the libertarian party back.
What exactly have conservatives conserved? Pretty sure almost everything conservatives have tried to conserve has slowly been eroded, never to be restored. “Conservatism” implies no movement — stagnation. I want rightward movement and action to restore our rights, enforce equal justice and liberty.
the fuck 'conserve' means 'not move'.
it means preserve something that's good, meaning the constitution. to do that you'd need to move right. obviously. nothing about the word conserve has anything to do with moving or not moving. it's not progress vs stagnation. it means keeping the things we hold sacred in place. which has nothing to do with stagnation
seriously though, what totally badass name are you going to call yourself since conservative is so limp dick, and what exactly are you going to do to earn it? i'd love to know. and actually you're implying this is a generational thing so it's not just you, what is your totally badass generation going to do to earn whatever you call yourselves?
what the fuck do you want your mommy and daddy to do? pick up guns and go kill liberals? were they supposed to go murder everyone in hollywood and over at nickelodeon? were they supposed to go string up all the college professors who've been brainwashing the past few generations?
better question-
what the fuck are YOU doing? it's real fuckin convenient to go pointing the finger
ok and what are you going to do to earn that? besides voting on trump? trump wasnt doing a serious run for presidency in the past, so the 'conservatives' who've been around didn't have him to vote on. it doesn't make the younger generation better simply because trump decided to run. they didn't do that, he did.
it has a meaning. i mean if you want to get in the business of retarded ass flashy branding and word games like the liberals do fine but you're going to have to do better than 'drop that limp dick term' to convince those of us with brains who aren't interested in looking hip and cool for the fucking kids.
Let me put it this way then. If we try and “conserve” America as it stands right now it means easy access to abortion, mass third world immigration, whole states where the 2nd amendment barely applies, red tape that could reach from here to the sun and back, fiat money, and a major political part that is literally seditious. Would you want to “conserve” any of that?
that's a really fucking stupid argument. conservatives have been around since before the left infiltrated everything (perfectly legally) and got elected (perfectly legally) into congress, presidency, etc, and moved the country left. the word conservative does NOT imply that you are talking about conserving whatever exists in the present. and you either know that which means you're knowingly strawmanning in a pathetic attempt to 'win' here, or you're a fool. conservatives want to preserve the spirit of the constitution and to do that first we need to go back to it, fucking obviously.
but hey, if being part of the younger generation (assuming) that got to vote for trump as one of your earliest votes in life makes you feel like YOU and your generation personally accomplished something, go ahead and lie to yourself some more. previous generations didn't have a trump to vote on. him deciding to run is no fucking accomplishment of yours. without him, you and your generation would be just as 'do nothing' as you types constantly accuse 'boomers' or whoever of being. and half of you are becoming fucking trannies. what a fucking disgrace.
Honestly as someone who is not a republican, republicans do this shit to themselves. They have their own purity spiral that they go down until they segregate themselves into a losing faction. A lot of the people who voted for Trump won't vote for another republican because of this.
This is 100% true, except that Democrat leaders and donors intend to stay very, very rich, everyone below them must be dependent on their patronage to have a decent lifestyle.
That's absolutely what they have done in Los Angeles.
The liberal elite remain safe behind their gated walls, with their legion of private security (whose funding is something like 8x the LAPD), using the urban poor as a moat. Meanwhile, they do their very best to disarm and drag the middle class into that hellhole to undermine any that might oppose them.
This is what socialist do, they destroy anyone that isn’t part of their government. Not even the rich are safe from them. They run on the back of greed and jealousy.
And guess what? The national GOP is complicit. We wouldn't have much of this crap, and it wouldn't be gaining steam, if the national GOP actually supported MAGA candidates in the 2018 primaries. The GOP shunned most candidates strongly aligned with Trump when there was a "safe", globallist neocon rino candidate. Guess what, the rinos get destroyed in 2018.
And now we have Portland and a Congress denouncing everything Trump does - or at the minimum not supporting anything he does
It's an exclusive club you see, and we can't in just anyone.
Didn't Paul Ryan put up a big honkin' wall around his estate like digs?
The Republicans act just like the Dems. Heck, so do the LIbertarians when they get the chance.
Washington was right: no more political parties; everybody runs on individual merit.
Well then, these morons should get a load of what Biden has planned for the suburbs. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide if he gets elected.
I hope these libs learn that the problem isn't the city or defunding police or whatever. It's Dems and liberalism. Stop voting for them at all levels of politics.
Nope. They'll continue to bitch about taxes and their city going to shit, move to a place like Nashville or Austin, and then vote in the same politicians who will raise their taxes and destroy their cities. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.
Won't matter if Biden is elected. Between his plans to bring the inner city to the suburbs, legalize illegals, and accept more illegals, all cities will be Blue cities.
This election really is for the future of America and our lives. It's not an exaggeration.
I'm increasingly black pilled, but it doesn't matter one bit. With Trump, at least we can say we gave it everything we could. Never give up. There is great pride in that.
They hate trump because he skipped the line to become president. Hes like the arrogant jock that got the job while insolent nerds fume in anger because they've been working hard on their political careers and nooooooooo you cant become president on a pro america populist message!!! We've worked our whole life pandering to the commie masses in order to gain power!!!!!
Trump is like hehehe, electoral college goes vroooooom
The whole idea is to push citizens to attack other citizens. For you to be fearful of other people. As you will over time be more and more exposed to communists propaganda.
It might not work with people that come to places like this but it will over time break the normies down.
It's already starting to break people down -- the shunning by family/friends/co-workers, the social isolation, the name-calling, the threats.
People can only take so much -- everybody's got a breaking point.
That points to one of the biggest problems. Who are the people most likely to write the notes/letters, show up at the town/city council meetings and school board meetings? Who are the people most likely to get up the petitions?
Yes, yes, I know right-wing people have work, family, just want to be left alone...but in the process you've allowed the lefties to take over your cities. They are the squeaky wheels.
They started innocently enough -- butterfly gardens and all that, those are nice, but now it's 'DEFUND THE POLICE...OR WE'LL RIOT!'.
Time to take the time to make sure you have work, home, family and can in the future just be left alone.
We need to have the same level of organization. I didn't even know about this petition until it was already closed. I did write my city council member, but he is hell-bent on destroying the police department. His response might've been different had we had an organized group of people writing emails to oppose this change.
The left has plenty of groups able to organize and mobilize people around their views. We have virtually nothing on our side to represent our views. We should be using Twitter, Facebook, and this site (or another .win) to coordinate against the left's lunacy and to represent our views in city and state governments.
Around here, the progressives know when every town or school board meeting is -- because the librarians are allies, they get to hold meetings in the library every week for free and have planning sessions.
They are NOT using social media that often (this should tell you something). It's more in person communication; although there is an online presence.
They are also affiliated with DNC/Soros backed groups and can/do receive funding. They do push their preferred candidates at the small local levels -- town/school boards, county assessor, county judge; hell, even dogcatcher. They are actively trying to win small elections so they can determine local policy, then state, then federal. That's the plan now. They are building up some presence.
And yes, they started out (and still maintain) doing things like community beautification projects and the like which is a great PR stunt, keeps the community thinking they're "nice folks". This is also how they get funding as well -- the local donations are not always going to their stated projects!
They are also in contact with radical communist groups from the state universities -- BLM/Antifa and others...they regularly attend "talks and seminars" given by these groups (even now, with Zoom)...the talks and seminars are often cloaked as educational talks, but it's the meet n greets afterwards where all the real talking is going on.
They are bussed to protests in larger cities; there's always a sign-up sheet (these are the "Mommies and Daddies" by the way; they actively plan this sort of thing). They take very innocent looking pics and vids...and send them to the local papers and on local social media -- PR.
This is happening all over the country: these groups are connected to each other and do communicate...usually through private chats and e-mails. It's remarkably sophisticated. And no, conservatives etc. have nothing like it.
Some of us don't think those foreign wars are "bs minutiae" as ourselves or our loved ones were in them...guess their lives are "bs minutiae" compared to the precious civilians'.
By the way...where in God's green earth would be safe to exit to if the country goes down the tubes? Which, I'm pretty sure it will -- these bastards got quite the scare in 2016, they've had to speed up their plans -- they'll go full throttle if Biden wins, and that could very likely mean civil war.
Good luck to the rest of the world if America falls (who is going to protect their precious asses? China? bwahahahha! -- guess those bs minutiae military peeps might not be so trivial afterall?).
It's cool. I was being snappish -- running troll battles with lefties on lefty sites can tend to do that to people.
Yeah, it was a bunch of garbage...the wars were inevitable and unending because people made money off them; they didn't want to win; they didn't care about grinding down our military -- it was the plan all along imho.
There's a housing and selling boom here in AZ. In one rando encounter I bumped into a guy at Subway who was literally coming off the road and moving into their new house - purchased sight unseen. He closed in 3 days. He was fleeing Virginia.
It's funny because in the next year or so I want to bug out to the high-desert because I've been in the Valley of the Sun for 12 years and want a change of scenery (already dipped a toe in the Verde Valley previously with an RV at a long-term facility), the heat, and of course - I see this as a trend of even more expensive housing in the future.
On the plus side there's still tracts of development that were 'on hold' since the 2008 meltdown which will find new life, and the West Valley will find some new blood. The East Valley is limited by military bases and reservations so most of their growth is to the SE - which is a bit distant from the core. There's lots of room to grow on the West-side and the outerbelt is coming along nicely.
1959, last year a Republican was Mayor of Minneapolis. Democrats are the only ones responsible for the current problems Minneapolis are facing. They also have complete control of the city counsel as well. Not a single conservative is on it and its been that way for 30 plus years.
One problem here is their city council is filled with garbage humans, and those garbage humans are making decisions on things they shouldn’t be. The council members have private security and are making 130,000$ a year. They have a power trip issue right now thinking they are right and should really only be making decisions about if a stop sign should get replaced. It’s fucked if those 8 cunts are going to make a decision to defund the police in a city as large as Minneapolis. They should be ran out of town on a rail.
Leftist response: "They just don't know what's best for them, and we need to push harder against the far-right-dominated media to get our message out.
Homeowners over forty with a job, a spouse and children have no idea how to be part of a functional, equitable society. As a well-informed veteran Redditor and Wikipedia editor (don't you even THINK about editing my page. I OWN THAT PAGE) I've witnessed my own mind evolve to levels that transcend those of Plato, Aristotle, Nietzsche and, dare I say, Marx."
Anyone living in Minneapolis who cares about living in a stable and safe city should move out as soon as possible. I saw this exact same thing in the 1970s in Newark, NJ. Newark was once an old, beautiful city. Then the riots of 1972 happened and the city was never the same. A downward spiral, out of control crime and proverty, and major companies and businesses moved out of the city. Some parts of the city remained livable, but the city was never the same.
You will notice that Newark had about two days of protesting back in June with no looting or rioting. It took 4 decades for Newark to learn that rioting accomplishes nothing.
This is what Democrats want. They want massive centers of poverty with no economy that will vote for welfare programs to suck money out of the productive parts of their states. All the better if the people left behind get to turn the place into Neo Mogadishu.
Those are dumb threats. The comments should read if the police are defunded we will vote out not only the Mayor and City council out of office, but also judges and DA's and then will take all of you to task for the murders and crimes you allowed to be inflected on the city not by class action lawsuit, but a case by case basis.
I don't know how that person stuck it out for 45 years!! But I can see how this would be the final straw. If the Dems keep this up, it'll be a desolate ghost town ruled by bandits.
The point of defunding the police is to insert "community people" that can be politically chosen. This is how the brown shirts replaced the police and became the gestapo.
In my grandfather's day, if someone tried to setup a homeless camp in the park, the police would have automatically cleared them out the 1st night they were there. (no one would even had to ask)
This all should have been dealt with on the strongest possible terms at the beginning. But it wasn't. And now we're left with what we have today. Lives could have been saved. Millions of dollars of damage could have been spared. Businesses and livelihoods could have been spared.
Worth noting that this doesn't reflect the "good" winning in Minneapolis. Someone else posted the source... (https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/clerkfile/CF-2020-00007) I just skimmed through the comments from Jul 20 and Jul 3-9, but MOST are upset that there is any delay at all and want police gone SOONER.
Most of the complaints aren't saying getting rid of the police is dangerous and makes it scarier for residents, they're saying the delay is unacceptable and they want to "divest" (I hate that leftist buzzword, they use it to tie it to BDS) from the police department.
dnc want to defunbed all police the dnc is behind all of these riots and unrest in this country. they want riots and biden is in bed with china. he i a communists big time.
Sadly this is how a market crumbles, people leaving but no one is going to buy. It's going to end up abandoned, and eventually burned up and for tax sale.
These morons want more cities to be like Minneapolis. They take away your police, take your guns, use YOUR tax money to protect themselves with armed security. Take away your private health insurance, take away your private education, take away your amendment rights. The government now owns you. President Trump is fighting to let you keep all these rights and yet you fight him by saying you’re fighting against his oppression? You’re asking for more fucking oppression than you’ve ever had in your life! It’s not that hard to understand.
I’ve always argued that conservatives want to give everyone the chance to be rich while democrats want to give everyone the opportunity to be poor.
This was proven true last month when someone asked the Minneapolis city council how they would respond to violent crime with no police and the councilwoman said that if you’re assaulted you should “check your privilege.”
80% of the Republican Party is corrupt and have sold out true conservative values. President Trump needs to separate and create his own party and take the real remaining republicans with him. These socialists want nothing but misery and destruction of the people meanwhile they get to enjoy all the riches they can with no one being to touch them.
That would be disastrous. We would never win another election again.
To be honest with you, if the republicans don’t put out a candidate close to as strong as President Trump in 2024, the republicans will likely lose. Trump is literally the entire glue holding the Republican Party together. Tucker Carlson is the next hope for the party if he wants to run.
Tucker will never run. Gaetz or Cruz would make me happy.
Indeed. I would like to see Cruz run again. I think that first run taught him a ton about running for POTUS and a second run would be successful.
I think Tucker is considering it. I've seen a few articles suggesting it based on a few things they see in Washington. Any of those 3 would be good, but I think Tucker has the charisma and audience to win a Trump-sized audience. America doesn't know Gaetz, so that would be a harder sell, I think. But he's great. Jim Jordan and Tom Fitton, too.
I love Tucker, but has he ever run anything large? I prefer governors and business men/women.
Jim Jordan would be really cool to see. Haven't heard about the Tucker leads, interesting. At this point, I'd vote for any GOP that isn't an obvious Uniparty slug.
Agreed. Trump pragmatically looked at the situation and determined that hijacking one of the two major parties and riding it to victory was the only way to win.
Trump learned the lesson of Ross Perot's campaign. Perot was clearly the best candidate, but it didn't matter.
Perot would have won if he hadn’t dropped out. He later claimed that he and his family were receiving threats and that is why he dropped out. The fake news called that a conspiracy theory. After watching the politburos in real time acting against Trump, I believe him now.
Wait, a "good guy" getting threats and fearing for his life? Say it ain't so!
HW Bush sent the FBI after him.
To be honest, nothing yet. Because we're a new breed of conservatism and this is our first go.
Be honest....we're conservative leaning populists. The fact that no one here screamed bloody murder when we just added $ 3T to the national debt and are thinking about doing that....again, tells you we aren't true conservatives.
We're gonna argue the specifics of borrowing a shitload of money everyone knows up front we can never EVER repay, and call it a day. If we were conservatives, we would have said no fucking way to the first stimulus, and no fucking way to whatever it is they are considering now.
I read a theory on here that Trump is ok with crashing the dollar, because we could then move back to gold/crypto standard and leave China with most of our worthless dollar-denominated securities.
Pipe dream but sounds nice to me.
The problem with that is it leave Americans who were thrifty and invested holding the bag, too, as their dollars become worthless. We don't want to become Zimbabwe.
The shit right now is ultimately conservative. If the Fed doesn’t Goode the money supply we will have massive deflation and if we have another prolonged Great Depression level economic setback the liberals will absolutely install a Chinese style communism. The Fed and Trump are holding back a massive deluge. It cost a lot to win WWII and this shit right now is just as big and important.
Correct, we ARE at war. This is a psy-ops globalist-communist insurrection.
The alternative would be a great depression and Trump's election chances that much worse. Pragmatism is important.
Thanks for bringing up the bailout. It's a terrible policy that will have disastrous consequences. Fiscal conservatism is dead, and whichever party is in power will now have a free hand to run up the federal tab to bail out or pay off their constituencies.
Yet it was politically brilliant for the President. I do not think the Democrats expected him to run to the left of them when they sprang the shut down, and not doing so would have doomed his 2020 candidacy for certain.
The bailout is unfortunate, but it's to keep the country afloat. With these lockdowns, it was absolutely unheard of. Millions of people were, and are, teetering on an edge.
Is it great? No. But it's better than almost everyone crashing. There are a lot of businesses that simply aren't going to come back after this.
Money can be remade by the government over time. Brands are hard to make. Jobs can be hard to be kept. Money is rough to make right now.
Besides, fiscal conservatism isn't really what the term conservative means, though it can be a trait of conservatism.
Preferrential treatment for the Chamber of CONmerce. And people like Mitt Romney.
There would never be a conservative in any office again if the Republican party split.
Since 2016, we should have been doing all we could to infiltrate and encourage Bernie supporters to split and form their own socialist party. The 2016 DNC was the perfect time to do it. At the same time we should be trying to completely reform the GOP and bring the libertarian party back.
Need to drop that limp-dick term.
100%.
What exactly have conservatives conserved? Pretty sure almost everything conservatives have tried to conserve has slowly been eroded, never to be restored. “Conservatism” implies no movement — stagnation. I want rightward movement and action to restore our rights, enforce equal justice and liberty.
the fuck 'conserve' means 'not move'. it means preserve something that's good, meaning the constitution. to do that you'd need to move right. obviously. nothing about the word conserve has anything to do with moving or not moving. it's not progress vs stagnation. it means keeping the things we hold sacred in place. which has nothing to do with stagnation
Well then “conservatives” have shown everybody an extremely piss poor example of how to protect the things they allegedly “hold sacred”.
seriously though, what totally badass name are you going to call yourself since conservative is so limp dick, and what exactly are you going to do to earn it? i'd love to know. and actually you're implying this is a generational thing so it's not just you, what is your totally badass generation going to do to earn whatever you call yourselves?
what the fuck do you want your mommy and daddy to do? pick up guns and go kill liberals? were they supposed to go murder everyone in hollywood and over at nickelodeon? were they supposed to go string up all the college professors who've been brainwashing the past few generations? better question- what the fuck are YOU doing? it's real fuckin convenient to go pointing the finger
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ok and what are you going to do to earn that? besides voting on trump? trump wasnt doing a serious run for presidency in the past, so the 'conservatives' who've been around didn't have him to vote on. it doesn't make the younger generation better simply because trump decided to run. they didn't do that, he did.
it has a meaning. i mean if you want to get in the business of retarded ass flashy branding and word games like the liberals do fine but you're going to have to do better than 'drop that limp dick term' to convince those of us with brains who aren't interested in looking hip and cool for the fucking kids.
Let me put it this way then. If we try and “conserve” America as it stands right now it means easy access to abortion, mass third world immigration, whole states where the 2nd amendment barely applies, red tape that could reach from here to the sun and back, fiat money, and a major political part that is literally seditious. Would you want to “conserve” any of that?
that's a really fucking stupid argument. conservatives have been around since before the left infiltrated everything (perfectly legally) and got elected (perfectly legally) into congress, presidency, etc, and moved the country left. the word conservative does NOT imply that you are talking about conserving whatever exists in the present. and you either know that which means you're knowingly strawmanning in a pathetic attempt to 'win' here, or you're a fool. conservatives want to preserve the spirit of the constitution and to do that first we need to go back to it, fucking obviously.
but hey, if being part of the younger generation (assuming) that got to vote for trump as one of your earliest votes in life makes you feel like YOU and your generation personally accomplished something, go ahead and lie to yourself some more. previous generations didn't have a trump to vote on. him deciding to run is no fucking accomplishment of yours. without him, you and your generation would be just as 'do nothing' as you types constantly accuse 'boomers' or whoever of being. and half of you are becoming fucking trannies. what a fucking disgrace.
Honestly as someone who is not a republican, republicans do this shit to themselves. They have their own purity spiral that they go down until they segregate themselves into a losing faction. A lot of the people who voted for Trump won't vote for another republican because of this.
My privilege is fully loaded...
This is 100% true, except that Democrat leaders and donors intend to stay very, very rich, everyone below them must be dependent on their patronage to have a decent lifestyle.
It's an actual thing "check your privlege" in regard NOT calling the police.
Here is a story about in MN for one town.
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/white-privilege-neighborhood-vows-to-stop-calling-police-crime-rates-soar/
earlier thread
https://thedonald.win/p/GIq9NSvT/white-privilege-neighborhood-vow/c/
That's absolutely what they have done in Los Angeles.
The liberal elite remain safe behind their gated walls, with their legion of private security (whose funding is something like 8x the LAPD), using the urban poor as a moat. Meanwhile, they do their very best to disarm and drag the middle class into that hellhole to undermine any that might oppose them.
This is what socialist do, they destroy anyone that isn’t part of their government. Not even the rich are safe from them. They run on the back of greed and jealousy.
And guess what? The national GOP is complicit. We wouldn't have much of this crap, and it wouldn't be gaining steam, if the national GOP actually supported MAGA candidates in the 2018 primaries. The GOP shunned most candidates strongly aligned with Trump when there was a "safe", globallist neocon rino candidate. Guess what, the rinos get destroyed in 2018. And now we have Portland and a Congress denouncing everything Trump does - or at the minimum not supporting anything he does
It's an exclusive club you see, and we can't in just anyone.
Didn't Paul Ryan put up a big honkin' wall around his estate like digs? The Republicans act just like the Dems. Heck, so do the LIbertarians when they get the chance.
Washington was right: no more political parties; everybody runs on individual merit.
We don’t have much of this crap in areas run by conservatives. The problem is w make plans so nice, liberals flee their shitholes to come here.
Amen. Plain and simple.
I suspect White Flight is going to be more prevalent in Minneapolis than gentrification.
Well then, these morons should get a load of what Biden has planned for the suburbs. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide if he gets elected.
I hope these libs learn that the problem isn't the city or defunding police or whatever. It's Dems and liberalism. Stop voting for them at all levels of politics.
Nope. They'll continue to bitch about taxes and their city going to shit, move to a place like Nashville or Austin, and then vote in the same politicians who will raise their taxes and destroy their cities. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.
Self awareness has never been a liberal strong suit.
Nashville raising property taxes 30% under the newly elected mayor...
It absolutely blows my mind how anybody could willingly live in a Blue city.
Won't matter if Biden is elected. Between his plans to bring the inner city to the suburbs, legalize illegals, and accept more illegals, all cities will be Blue cities.
This election really is for the future of America and our lives. It's not an exaggeration.
I'm increasingly black pilled, but it doesn't matter one bit. With Trump, at least we can say we gave it everything we could. Never give up. There is great pride in that.
They’re all leaving. Of course they’re moving to red states and building blue cities.....
They’re like locusts
It’s a cancer metastasizing that must be excised.
They aren’t monolithic. We need to focus on breaking the Dem party into socialists and corporatists.
They hate trump because he skipped the line to become president. Hes like the arrogant jock that got the job while insolent nerds fume in anger because they've been working hard on their political careers and nooooooooo you cant become president on a pro america populist message!!! We've worked our whole life pandering to the commie masses in order to gain power!!!!!
Trump is like hehehe, electoral college goes vroooooom
The whole idea is to push citizens to attack other citizens. For you to be fearful of other people. As you will over time be more and more exposed to communists propaganda.
It might not work with people that come to places like this but it will over time break the normies down.
Divide and conquer.
It's already starting to break people down -- the shunning by family/friends/co-workers, the social isolation, the name-calling, the threats. People can only take so much -- everybody's got a breaking point.
why no link
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/clerkfile/CF-2020-00007
Lots of people here avoid making links. Dunno why.
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/clerkfile/CF-2020-00007
because the thread is wishful thinking.
Direct link to latest comments.Most of them are asking to hurry up and defund police.
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/Download/File/3989/Charter%20Commission%20Public%20Safety%20Comment%20(6).pdf
Summary.
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/Download/File/3998/Summary%20of%20Public%20Comments%20(Jul%2020%202020).pdf
That points to one of the biggest problems. Who are the people most likely to write the notes/letters, show up at the town/city council meetings and school board meetings? Who are the people most likely to get up the petitions?
Yes, yes, I know right-wing people have work, family, just want to be left alone...but in the process you've allowed the lefties to take over your cities. They are the squeaky wheels.
They started innocently enough -- butterfly gardens and all that, those are nice, but now it's 'DEFUND THE POLICE...OR WE'LL RIOT!'.
Time to take the time to make sure you have work, home, family and can in the future just be left alone.
We need to have the same level of organization. I didn't even know about this petition until it was already closed. I did write my city council member, but he is hell-bent on destroying the police department. His response might've been different had we had an organized group of people writing emails to oppose this change.
The left has plenty of groups able to organize and mobilize people around their views. We have virtually nothing on our side to represent our views. We should be using Twitter, Facebook, and this site (or another .win) to coordinate against the left's lunacy and to represent our views in city and state governments.
Around here, the progressives know when every town or school board meeting is -- because the librarians are allies, they get to hold meetings in the library every week for free and have planning sessions.
They are NOT using social media that often (this should tell you something). It's more in person communication; although there is an online presence.
They are also affiliated with DNC/Soros backed groups and can/do receive funding. They do push their preferred candidates at the small local levels -- town/school boards, county assessor, county judge; hell, even dogcatcher. They are actively trying to win small elections so they can determine local policy, then state, then federal. That's the plan now. They are building up some presence.
And yes, they started out (and still maintain) doing things like community beautification projects and the like which is a great PR stunt, keeps the community thinking they're "nice folks". This is also how they get funding as well -- the local donations are not always going to their stated projects!
They are also in contact with radical communist groups from the state universities -- BLM/Antifa and others...they regularly attend "talks and seminars" given by these groups (even now, with Zoom)...the talks and seminars are often cloaked as educational talks, but it's the meet n greets afterwards where all the real talking is going on.
They are bussed to protests in larger cities; there's always a sign-up sheet (these are the "Mommies and Daddies" by the way; they actively plan this sort of thing). They take very innocent looking pics and vids...and send them to the local papers and on local social media -- PR.
This is happening all over the country: these groups are connected to each other and do communicate...usually through private chats and e-mails. It's remarkably sophisticated. And no, conservatives etc. have nothing like it.
Most of them are copy/pasted comments suggested by Reclaim the Block: https://twitter.com/reclaimtheblock/status/1279075326191009798
https://healingmnstories.wordpress.com/2020/07/03/ways-to-engage-in-dismantling-the-minneapolis-police-department/
Look at how many comments contain 'brutal, unaccountable'
Notice how the anti police comments all read the same
but the pro police comments all read massively different from each other
One is shills and one is real people
"It wasn't real democrats, no idea how we ended up here. At least we're not those nasty republicans."
sounds like Chicago
Urban blight coming to a metro near you.
Some of us don't think those foreign wars are "bs minutiae" as ourselves or our loved ones were in them...guess their lives are "bs minutiae" compared to the precious civilians'.
By the way...where in God's green earth would be safe to exit to if the country goes down the tubes? Which, I'm pretty sure it will -- these bastards got quite the scare in 2016, they've had to speed up their plans -- they'll go full throttle if Biden wins, and that could very likely mean civil war. Good luck to the rest of the world if America falls (who is going to protect their precious asses? China? bwahahahha! -- guess those bs minutiae military peeps might not be so trivial afterall?).
It's cool. I was being snappish -- running troll battles with lefties on lefty sites can tend to do that to people.
Yeah, it was a bunch of garbage...the wars were inevitable and unending because people made money off them; they didn't want to win; they didn't care about grinding down our military -- it was the plan all along imho.
Don’t take your voting habits to the burbs!
If Biden wins the Burbs will be undone.
Wait until this person finds out how much less their house is worth when they list it. Who the hell would want to live here?
May I ask what site this is from ? I'd love to read the rest.
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/clerkfile/CF-2020-00007
There's a housing and selling boom here in AZ. In one rando encounter I bumped into a guy at Subway who was literally coming off the road and moving into their new house - purchased sight unseen. He closed in 3 days. He was fleeing Virginia.
It's funny because in the next year or so I want to bug out to the high-desert because I've been in the Valley of the Sun for 12 years and want a change of scenery (already dipped a toe in the Verde Valley previously with an RV at a long-term facility), the heat, and of course - I see this as a trend of even more expensive housing in the future.
On the plus side there's still tracts of development that were 'on hold' since the 2008 meltdown which will find new life, and the West Valley will find some new blood. The East Valley is limited by military bases and reservations so most of their growth is to the SE - which is a bit distant from the core. There's lots of room to grow on the West-side and the outerbelt is coming along nicely.
1959, last year a Republican was Mayor of Minneapolis. Democrats are the only ones responsible for the current problems Minneapolis are facing. They also have complete control of the city counsel as well. Not a single conservative is on it and its been that way for 30 plus years.
One problem here is their city council is filled with garbage humans, and those garbage humans are making decisions on things they shouldn’t be. The council members have private security and are making 130,000$ a year. They have a power trip issue right now thinking they are right and should really only be making decisions about if a stop sign should get replaced. It’s fucked if those 8 cunts are going to make a decision to defund the police in a city as large as Minneapolis. They should be ran out of town on a rail.
Escape from New York is becoming reality.
More like Detroit 2.0. Or 3.0 since there's other cities that likely qualify for 2.0 that I'm overlooking right now.
Leftist response: "They just don't know what's best for them, and we need to push harder against the far-right-dominated media to get our message out.
Homeowners over forty with a job, a spouse and children have no idea how to be part of a functional, equitable society. As a well-informed veteran Redditor and Wikipedia editor (don't you even THINK about editing my page. I OWN THAT PAGE) I've witnessed my own mind evolve to levels that transcend those of Plato, Aristotle, Nietzsche and, dare I say, Marx."
Anyone living in Minneapolis who cares about living in a stable and safe city should move out as soon as possible. I saw this exact same thing in the 1970s in Newark, NJ. Newark was once an old, beautiful city. Then the riots of 1972 happened and the city was never the same. A downward spiral, out of control crime and proverty, and major companies and businesses moved out of the city. Some parts of the city remained livable, but the city was never the same.
You will notice that Newark had about two days of protesting back in June with no looting or rioting. It took 4 decades for Newark to learn that rioting accomplishes nothing.
This is what Democrats want. They want massive centers of poverty with no economy that will vote for welfare programs to suck money out of the productive parts of their states. All the better if the people left behind get to turn the place into Neo Mogadishu.
“I will move, and vote in the same type of idiots I’m moving away from.”
Those are dumb threats. The comments should read if the police are defunded we will vote out not only the Mayor and City council out of office, but also judges and DA's and then will take all of you to task for the murders and crimes you allowed to be inflected on the city not by class action lawsuit, but a case by case basis.
Many of them voted for Democrats, what else did they expect?
Exactly. Vote Communist get shithole. It's not rocket science, they've done it to hundreds, probably thousands, of cities.
I don't know how that person stuck it out for 45 years!! But I can see how this would be the final straw. If the Dems keep this up, it'll be a desolate ghost town ruled by bandits.
The point of defunding the police is to insert "community people" that can be politically chosen. This is how the brown shirts replaced the police and became the gestapo.
Don't call the police to deal with homeless camps. Do what your grandfather's would of done and take care of the problem.
edit: or, ya know, do nothing and let your kids get raped.
Flammenwerfer?
Asking for Hans.
Flammenpanzer would be better
In my grandfather's day, if someone tried to setup a homeless camp in the park, the police would have automatically cleared them out the 1st night they were there. (no one would even had to ask)
Underrated comment.
This all should have been dealt with on the strongest possible terms at the beginning. But it wasn't. And now we're left with what we have today. Lives could have been saved. Millions of dollars of damage could have been spared. Businesses and livelihoods could have been spared.
Worth noting that this doesn't reflect the "good" winning in Minneapolis. Someone else posted the source... (https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/clerkfile/CF-2020-00007) I just skimmed through the comments from Jul 20 and Jul 3-9, but MOST are upset that there is any delay at all and want police gone SOONER.
Most of the complaints aren't saying getting rid of the police is dangerous and makes it scarier for residents, they're saying the delay is unacceptable and they want to "divest" (I hate that leftist buzzword, they use it to tie it to BDS) from the police department.
I suspect that there are a lot of bots in there.
dnc want to defunbed all police the dnc is behind all of these riots and unrest in this country. they want riots and biden is in bed with china. he i a communists big time.
If you move to a red state please leave your Democrat politics behind.
This is one comment out of many and the sentiment seems to be the minority. Their summary is the opposite
Direct link to latest comments.
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/Download/File/3989/Charter%20Commission%20Public%20Safety%20Comment%20(6).pdf
Summary.
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/Download/File/3998/Summary%20of%20Public%20Comments%20(Jul%2020%202020).pdf
Sadly this is how a market crumbles, people leaving but no one is going to buy. It's going to end up abandoned, and eventually burned up and for tax sale.
Don't just treaten to move, vote.
They're trying to cause white flight now.
throw out THE dems. ALL COMMUNISTS AND IN BED with china,JOE BIDEN IS A COMMUNISTS AND IS WORTHLESS
If they don't work for their constituents, then who do they work for...hmmmmm?
Sucks for him, he won’t be able to sell it for nearly as much now.
Votes democrat. Shocked face when Democrats don’t give a wet shit about your problems
"...disrespect of the law and Leo."
Is this a typo, or who/what is Leo?
Law Enforcement Officer(s)
Ah okay, guess that one didn't make it to Australia :P
Thanks mate!
Selfish. Didn't you k ow you ate supposed to pay for everything then have nothing
I bet theyre dismissing it along the lines of, "Ha one guy lmao like THATS gonna hurt the city".
Yeah... its definitely only one guy alright...
My brother lives in a suburb and calls it the 3rd ring of hell. He's a gun nut like the rest of us and says his neighborhood is fully ready.
Future doctors
"You get what you fuckin' deserve." - Joker