I go there for a convention every fall. The city is generally a shithole with meth and heroin addicts on every corner. I learned Portland is the runaway capital of the US. The number of 14 year old homeless kids there is saddening. I've been going for nearly 20 years. It's always been a weird fucking place but it's gotten noticeably worse the past 8-10 years, each year.
Like any large metro, there are some nicer areas of course. The dining scene is good and the tax free shopping is nice. But still... preeety much a total shithole. For a vacation I'd go 10000 other places before Portland.
Onnnnnnn the other hand, Oregon in general is fucking awesome. If you like the outdoors for sure. There is a ton of stuff to do and it's beautiful and, believe it or not, a very conservative state outside the shithole of Portland. I feel bad for the country pedes in Oregon.
Oregon is a polarized state for sure, politically.
I have been realizing our battle is urban vs suburban/rural. If you look at a breakdown of who voted for who by county its amazing to see the majority of America is red. Its just the urban centers are blue. I have not figured out the connection but the denser the population the more blue it is.
Living in an urban area makes the residents dependent on government services. Therefor, the residents will always vote for more government, no matter how bad the current one is.
On the other hand, many residents of rural areas are much more self-sufficient.
The Dems are notorious for getting homeless to vote.
They don't "get" them to vote. They PAY them to vote, which is illegal I think. It would be funny if someone just followed the people paying them around and told all those homeless people that their vote is secret and to just take the money and then, either don't actually vote or could just vote randomly and watch what chaos ensued.
Have a cousin that I grew up with like best friends, we were just alike. He moved to Manhattan 10 or so years ago and its like a light switch flipped in his brain, went full on Liberal. Its so fucking bizarre
Same. Growing up, my cousin was one of my best friends. He moved to LA nearly 20 years ago and is a complete whack job now. I can't even talk to him and frankly, don't want to. It's sad. I mourn for the fun person he used to be.
Leftists are hive-minded. They cant think for themselves. Their fulfillment is belonging to a collective and fitting in, not in being a self-sustaining individual. It makes sense that theyd congregate together. Sheep can only survive in flocks
Also a lot of people who claim to be counter culture, quirky, 'queer' (still dont know exactly wtf thats supposed to mean), etc - all of it is part of a greater hive mind to be 'different'. There is little individuality amongst antifa types but in their minds they think theyre super complex and one-of-a-kind
Those of us who travel outside and experience nature, get to see so much beautiful organic variety, helping keep us humble about life's existence on this tiny diverse planet in the vast span of the universe. (Even more for those of us who've done solo versions of these excursions)
I've met a lot of people who never travel beyond their comfort zone, and when their preferred surrounding is urban - they're only ever surrounded by artificial things assembled by people and machines. That perspective distorts their grasp of nature, and affects their tendency to expect problems to be solved by politicians no matter that politicians fomented those same problems.
Everything we experience can be viewed as through a subjective lens - during my nature hikes I've met some left-wing loons. I try to learn from them to glean what I can about their perspectives, to help me figure out how they perceive the world so differently.
A possible explanation is that I believe we're created by a Creator, and they don't = neither did Karl Marx. As an ultimate experience I crave meeting my Creator, but materialists worship a Utopian unicorn society created by perfect people. I've met left-wing religious people who believe that we're already living in a "Heaven" that needs Progressive leadership to fulfill the premise of their faith.
Sadly a lot of “Outdoorsy” people I know are bleeding heart Leftists that would throw 1,000,000 people under the bus in order to save one mountain lion.
Yes, animal rights activists I've dated and worked with, are evangelically vegan but also pro-abortion (for humans) due to apocalyptic fear of overpopulation.
Obsessed w/ horoscopes & arranging their calendar activities by astrological alignment, yet contemptuous of Bible-thumpers for being superstitious.
I think the connection is a forced dependence on one another to get along, and thus a daily surrender each day to other people. country folk don't need to acquiesce as often.
it's interesting, and I don't blame them for it to some extent, trying to be nicer and nicer and thinking that will solve things, but it is CLEARLY the wrong tactic at this point, they've been trying it my WHOLE LIFE to no avail.
On two separate occasions over the last decade I went to a conference in San Francisco. I was always in eyeshot of the homeless and druggies although, at the time, the pavement was reasonably clean.
A paid protest also showed up outside my hotel for fifteen minutes. I never could understand what the woman was screeching from the megaphone.
Sounds like Western NY. I love Rochester because I grew up there, but it is a shithole in places. NY is a gorgeous state, but the shitholes and retarded politics and corruption ruin it.
I also spent a lot of time in Portland. I always heard about it and landed a client there. Man a year of that place is enough to never want to go back, and this was 6+ years ago. I have never seen so many young, able bodied people begging for money. Everywhere. On the street, on the train, in the stores, in restaurants. Everywhere! Worse than San Francisco. And the entitlement! If you say "no" they give you attitude or insult you. Random people always asking to use my phone or asking for a cigarette. Junkies sleeping in the streets. Nasty place!
I go there for a convention every fall. The city is generally a shithole with meth and heroin addicts on every corner. I learned Portland is the runaway capital of the US. The number of 14 year old homeless kids there is saddening. I've been going for nearly 20 years. It's always been a weird fucking place but it's gotten noticeably worse the past 8-10 years, each year.
Like any large metro, there are some nicer areas of course. The dining scene is good and the tax free shopping is nice. But still... preeety much a total shithole. For a vacation I'd go 10000 other places before Portland.
Onnnnnnn the other hand, Oregon in general is fucking awesome. If you like the outdoors for sure. There is a ton of stuff to do and it's beautiful and, believe it or not, a very conservative state outside the shithole of Portland. I feel bad for the country pedes in Oregon.
Oregon is a polarized state for sure, politically.
I have been realizing our battle is urban vs suburban/rural. If you look at a breakdown of who voted for who by county its amazing to see the majority of America is red. Its just the urban centers are blue. I have not figured out the connection but the denser the population the more blue it is.
Living in an urban area makes the residents dependent on government services. Therefor, the residents will always vote for more government, no matter how bad the current one is. On the other hand, many residents of rural areas are much more self-sufficient.
people who don't contribute to the tax burden shouldn't be able to vote
They don't "get" them to vote. They PAY them to vote, which is illegal I think. It would be funny if someone just followed the people paying them around and told all those homeless people that their vote is secret and to just take the money and then, either don't actually vote or could just vote randomly and watch what chaos ensued.
Have a cousin that I grew up with like best friends, we were just alike. He moved to Manhattan 10 or so years ago and its like a light switch flipped in his brain, went full on Liberal. Its so fucking bizarre
Me too, except he moved to Davis, California. We don't talk anymore, couple of decades now. Sad.
Same. Growing up, my cousin was one of my best friends. He moved to LA nearly 20 years ago and is a complete whack job now. I can't even talk to him and frankly, don't want to. It's sad. I mourn for the fun person he used to be.
Leftists are hive-minded. They cant think for themselves. Their fulfillment is belonging to a collective and fitting in, not in being a self-sustaining individual. It makes sense that theyd congregate together. Sheep can only survive in flocks
Also a lot of people who claim to be counter culture, quirky, 'queer' (still dont know exactly wtf thats supposed to mean), etc - all of it is part of a greater hive mind to be 'different'. There is little individuality amongst antifa types but in their minds they think theyre super complex and one-of-a-kind
Those of us who travel outside and experience nature, get to see so much beautiful organic variety, helping keep us humble about life's existence on this tiny diverse planet in the vast span of the universe. (Even more for those of us who've done solo versions of these excursions)
I've met a lot of people who never travel beyond their comfort zone, and when their preferred surrounding is urban - they're only ever surrounded by artificial things assembled by people and machines. That perspective distorts their grasp of nature, and affects their tendency to expect problems to be solved by politicians no matter that politicians fomented those same problems.
Everything we experience can be viewed as through a subjective lens - during my nature hikes I've met some left-wing loons. I try to learn from them to glean what I can about their perspectives, to help me figure out how they perceive the world so differently.
A possible explanation is that I believe we're created by a Creator, and they don't = neither did Karl Marx. As an ultimate experience I crave meeting my Creator, but materialists worship a Utopian unicorn society created by perfect people. I've met left-wing religious people who believe that we're already living in a "Heaven" that needs Progressive leadership to fulfill the premise of their faith.
Sadly a lot of “Outdoorsy” people I know are bleeding heart Leftists that would throw 1,000,000 people under the bus in order to save one mountain lion.
Hiked with a girl on a first date and when I told her I grew up in the country, she said "did you vote for Trump?!?!".
We didn't have a second date.
Yes, animal rights activists I've dated and worked with, are evangelically vegan but also pro-abortion (for humans) due to apocalyptic fear of overpopulation.
Obsessed w/ horoscopes & arranging their calendar activities by astrological alignment, yet contemptuous of Bible-thumpers for being superstitious.
Well, if I would too if I get to pick the 1,000,000....
I think the connection is a forced dependence on one another to get along, and thus a daily surrender each day to other people. country folk don't need to acquiesce as often.
it's interesting, and I don't blame them for it to some extent, trying to be nicer and nicer and thinking that will solve things, but it is CLEARLY the wrong tactic at this point, they've been trying it my WHOLE LIFE to no avail.
On two separate occasions over the last decade I went to a conference in San Francisco. I was always in eyeshot of the homeless and druggies although, at the time, the pavement was reasonably clean.
A paid protest also showed up outside my hotel for fifteen minutes. I never could understand what the woman was screeching from the megaphone.
"all sex is rape, all sex is rape"
Sounds like Western NY. I love Rochester because I grew up there, but it is a shithole in places. NY is a gorgeous state, but the shitholes and retarded politics and corruption ruin it.
I also spent a lot of time in Portland. I always heard about it and landed a client there. Man a year of that place is enough to never want to go back, and this was 6+ years ago. I have never seen so many young, able bodied people begging for money. Everywhere. On the street, on the train, in the stores, in restaurants. Everywhere! Worse than San Francisco. And the entitlement! If you say "no" they give you attitude or insult you. Random people always asking to use my phone or asking for a cigarette. Junkies sleeping in the streets. Nasty place!
^This guy Portland's