Regarding Duckworth being eligible, I looked into the actual wording of the Constitution, and it states that to be eligible for POTUS or VPOTUS, the individual must be a "natural born" citizen. So looking into that definition, it connotes that if one of the candidate's parents is born within the USA or its territories, then the child is deemed a "natural born" citizen. Tammy Duckworth's father was born in Maryland. So she would be eligible to be Dementia Joe's VP. Also applying this "natural born" definition, that term permitted Canadian-born Ted Cruz to run for President in 2016, since his mother was born in Delaware. And that would also make the Kenya theory about Pres. Obama moot because his mother was born in Kansas.
Honestly, I would really prefer that any future POTUS and VPOTUS candidate be born with the US states (and not its territories), and thereby nixing this "natural born" term. But this would require a Constutuional Amendment.
Lastly, I think we are wasting our breath to discuss Tammy Duckworth as a Biden running mate. Because If Dementia Joe doesn't pick an Afr-American woman as his running mate, then his campaign is officially toast.
I always thought with Obama it wasn't about where he was born but what religion was on his birth certificate. Hawaii had a field for religion on the birth certificates at the time. If it had Islam as his religion he would either have to renounce Islam to keep his cover as being a christian and have the whole middle east against him or he would have to renounce christianity and come out as a muslim and lose the election.
No, that had nothing to do with it. There may have been a practical impact on his candidacy, but that wouldn't have made a legal difference.
There was some question if he was born in Hawaii or Kenya, and if the latter, had his mother been a citizen long enough for him to be considered a citizen too (she was young).
This is the correct answer. At the time of Obama’s birth, you basically had to be 18 to “transmit” citizenship to your child if the child was born outside the country. You had to reside in the US for x number of years after the age of y to transmit citizenship (I’m too lazy to look up the values of x and y in the INA). His mom was 17 at the time of his birth, which means that if he was born outside the US he would not have been a natural born citizen.
For what it’s worth, I think Obama was born here. But I think he lied his ass off about being born in Kenya (like in his author’s blurb) in order to get scholarships and other benefits.
No, it is not. Its birthright citizenship. If either one of your parents is a citizen of the United States, you are born into your citizenship.
The part that should be removed is the part where anyone born on United States soil is automatically a citizen. 'Anchor babies' are a direct result of that wording. Birthright citizenship is the better of the two options; that way, at least one of your parents would have had to have gone through the process of obtaining citizenship.
I think with Obie there was some question relating to verbiage of whether his mother had been a citizen long enough for the rule to apply, since she was so young. It was something stupid like that. Cruz is also interesting in that there was a case made that his mother had given up her citizenship.
Otherwise, obviously you are correct in most cases, like McCain, who the Dems tried to say was not eligible.
I completely agree. So I really hope that President Trump will seek to amend the Constitution by mandating that any future POTUS or VPOTUS candidate needs to be born within the 50 states. And regarding eligibility, I am not a fan of being born in any of the US territories.
John "Brain Tumor not Execution" McCain was born in Panama too. It's pretty interesting how many Presidential candidates were in fact not born in the United States.
I recall that Barry Goldwater was born in 1909 in the geographic area of the Arizona Territory to be known Arizona -- before it became part of the United States in 1912. But that did not preclude him from running for President in 1964.
I think it should require multiple generations born in America, to citizens of America. One parental side being born here, plus the candidate themselves being born here.
Regarding Duckworth being eligible, I looked into the actual wording of the Constitution, and it states that to be eligible for POTUS or VPOTUS, the individual must be a "natural born" citizen. So looking into that definition, it connotes that if one of the candidate's parents is born within the USA or its territories, then the child is deemed a "natural born" citizen. Tammy Duckworth's father was born in Maryland. So she would be eligible to be Dementia Joe's VP. Also applying this "natural born" definition, that term permitted Canadian-born Ted Cruz to run for President in 2016, since his mother was born in Delaware. And that would also make the Kenya theory about Pres. Obama moot because his mother was born in Kansas.
Honestly, I would really prefer that any future POTUS and VPOTUS candidate be born with the US states (and not its territories), and thereby nixing this "natural born" term. But this would require a Constutuional Amendment.
Lastly, I think we are wasting our breath to discuss Tammy Duckworth as a Biden running mate. Because If Dementia Joe doesn't pick an Afr-American woman as his running mate, then his campaign is officially toast.
I always thought with Obama it wasn't about where he was born but what religion was on his birth certificate. Hawaii had a field for religion on the birth certificates at the time. If it had Islam as his religion he would either have to renounce Islam to keep his cover as being a christian and have the whole middle east against him or he would have to renounce christianity and come out as a muslim and lose the election.
No, that had nothing to do with it. There may have been a practical impact on his candidacy, but that wouldn't have made a legal difference.
There was some question if he was born in Hawaii or Kenya, and if the latter, had his mother been a citizen long enough for him to be considered a citizen too (she was young).
This is the correct answer. At the time of Obama’s birth, you basically had to be 18 to “transmit” citizenship to your child if the child was born outside the country. You had to reside in the US for x number of years after the age of y to transmit citizenship (I’m too lazy to look up the values of x and y in the INA). His mom was 17 at the time of his birth, which means that if he was born outside the US he would not have been a natural born citizen.
For what it’s worth, I think Obama was born here. But I think he lied his ass off about being born in Kenya (like in his author’s blurb) in order to get scholarships and other benefits.
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No, all the tards were bitching about him not being a "natural born citizen" because something something citizenship laws changed requiring something.
No, it is not. Its birthright citizenship. If either one of your parents is a citizen of the United States, you are born into your citizenship.
The part that should be removed is the part where anyone born on United States soil is automatically a citizen. 'Anchor babies' are a direct result of that wording. Birthright citizenship is the better of the two options; that way, at least one of your parents would have had to have gone through the process of obtaining citizenship.
I think with Obie there was some question relating to verbiage of whether his mother had been a citizen long enough for the rule to apply, since she was so young. It was something stupid like that. Cruz is also interesting in that there was a case made that his mother had given up her citizenship.
Otherwise, obviously you are correct in most cases, like McCain, who the Dems tried to say was not eligible.
I completely agree. So I really hope that President Trump will seek to amend the Constitution by mandating that any future POTUS or VPOTUS candidate needs to be born within the 50 states. And regarding eligibility, I am not a fan of being born in any of the US territories.
John "Brain Tumor not Execution" McCain was born in Panama too. It's pretty interesting how many Presidential candidates were in fact not born in the United States.
McCain was born on a U.S. military base, which is U.S. soveriegn land. That is why he was a natural born citizen.
I recall that Barry Goldwater was born in 1909 in the geographic area of the Arizona Territory to be known Arizona -- before it became part of the United States in 1912. But that did not preclude him from running for President in 1964.
I remember McCain was also born on a Navy base (US Territory)
"mandating that any future POTUS or VPOTUS candidate needs to be born within the 50 states"
Because if General Flynn's kid was born in Germany while the General was serving overseas, he shouldn't be eligible?
Thank you for that. I asked the original person I heard it from to please explain, for me am dumb dumb, but I never got a reply.
What about an indian?
Feather not dot?
Which one is Elizabeth Warren this week?
I think it should require multiple generations born in America, to citizens of America. One parental side being born here, plus the candidate themselves being born here.
+1 for no anchor babies