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MAGAbetterargument 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yes. That is just what they found. That is from information volunteered. Before it gets to that spreadsheet, there are many other points at which fuckery could be inserted into the process.

For example, for all those comorbidity deaths, how many actually tested positive? How many who actually tested positive actually had covid? How many weren't going to die within months, weeks, days anyway?

On almost every question, the media rounds up towards the scare narrative, while simultaneously ignoring many similar or worse threats that would add context. Most people are walking around with a completely warped sense of reality.

But as Jonathan Haidt would put it, the media (except maybe this I-team) is not playing the truth game, they are playing the politics game.

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mnguy12000 3 points ago +3 / -0

Who the heck cares if they tested positive. They could have died from getting a cold that moved in the chest and turned into pneumonia. I would love to see a comparison of deaths caused by those vs now. That's the really story

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MAGAbetterargument 4 points ago +4 / -0

The only way to know the real story is to look at the excess deaths per month in 2020 and compare against past years, but you have to wait probably 6-10 months for that. Plus you have to account for changes in other causes of deaths (more suicides, fewer auto collisions, whatever else). We will never get the real story but that will be the closest thing, because these numbers are swimming in bullshit.