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Techrev 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, I think you're a troll. Virtual statues have to be created and maintained. Stored on a server. It's no different. You make no sense. The cost to maintain is close to the same, and vollunteers are more difficult, if not impossible to get. Plus, people aren't going to go somewhere to see a 3D mock up on their phones they can just download. You make no sense with every single point you try to make. And donations are volluntary, not taxes.

Your point on endangering military is a good one. Probably your only point. But, the question is, how much stuff do we let them destroy before making a stand? Do you think history is unimportant? The work the people put in to build and maintain those statues? Truthfully, without some sort of real monument to go to, a lot of businesses will suffer. May as well just tear them down. I'm all for tearing down government buildings, but private small business? Hard work by individuals? Not so much.

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gotrumpwin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree with your last paragraph 100% - it is what I was saying with my initial post. I was trying to come up with a solution for your personal issue with the statue at kittyhawk. The virtual statue may not be the answer - I am just trying to throw out ideas. Truth is that statue probably won't fall and we're wasting time discussing it and the town near it. If the statue helps the local economy and it most likely won't be vandalized then why waste time discussing? I also wonder why we have canadians commenting in American matters?

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Techrev 1 point ago +1 / -0

I lived in the US for 27 years. I have a lot of family there, and try to visit every year. I get you with the ideas. My argument was that statues were about more than history, and sentimentality. Which I think is important. But maybe, history and sentimentality might not be a good reason to risk soldier's lives. I do get that. I just wanted to point out that - in a lot of cases - it's about more than that.

Another point is, do you really want big tech to be in charge of our history and how we remember the world?

And if you don't think US politics affects Canadians... It is, in many cases - most cases - more important than our own politics. Still, I do have other reasons for being here.

And, also, I do apologize. I'm not trolling. I do care about all of this. I'm not, nor do I believe I can, nor do I want to influence US policies or decisions. I am just a guy in a forum, talking about things, and learning about things that really do affect me and my family a great deal.

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gotrumpwin 1 point ago +1 / -0

thanks - i really do care about our small towns and i care about our history and i care deeply about America. No i don't think big tech should be in charge of history since it would be easy for them to change the narrative. just trying to think up a solution for this situation and i thought i had a cool idea. I grew up in a small town (don't live there now) that is crappy now since we import everything from China. Sorry to toss blame your way. We seem to be slowly offshoring everything in America and I took an easy shot at you since you were not living in this country - that is not your fault - it was a crappy deal made when the Democrats were in charge. I am not sure how you feel about NAFTA, but it seems Canada and Mexico made out better than the USA. There are many people on this forum that simply agree there are problems but offer no solutions - or even think about other opportunities that are available. I want to help come up with solutions and really examine all aspects of problems - cause we may be missing something if we just repeat problems someone else stated instead of listening to the problem and offering a solution for discussion. Thanks for engaging in a good discussion with me - i don't think we solved anything but at least there is some alternate ideas in this thread now.

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Techrev 1 point ago +1 / -0

I haven't read NAFTA. I've been putting it off. I do understand Canada wanting to protect Canadian business, we'd be washed away in an instant if we didn't. However, what bugs me most is how post is manipulated. For a few years, it was cheaper for me (free) to order from China than it was to order from an hour away in the US. Plus, the terrifs Canada imposes (import fees) on individuals buying things from the US here is crazy. At least, now, it's getting to where I can actually order from the US. I wish Canada were more focused on creating and manufacturing more for Canadians, rather than putting them out of business and making us dependent on other countries.

So, I think that NAFTA and some of the changes made were for the better, when it comes to the US. Maybe more than how it looks on paper? I seriously doubt that I'm the only Canadian buying more from the USA, now. What I'm not sure about, and need to research, is what Canada is getting out of it. I, really, feel like I live in a communist dictatorship right now. I lived in Florida for 27 years, I'm experiencing culture shock, after 9 years here. Still, maybe it took seeing all this first hand to wake me up.

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Techrev 1 point ago +1 / -0

What really bothers me? I remember being little in Canada, like 8, 9, 10 years old. In many ways, when we moved to the US, there were things I couldn't do that just seemed normal in Canada. Felt like we had more freedom up here back then, at least from a kid's perspective. Not so, now. The opposite. Everything is controlled. It's hard to explain, but there's a reason and rationalization for everything, but you can't do anything.

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gotrumpwin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I also agreed that there is maintenance and cost required with virtual statues and even threw out any tax in agreement with you. I was trying to solve your issue and worries over you great grandfather's statue. I care about a town dying, but i don't buy into your belief the town is only making it do to a statue. I still believe we are wasting time, money and people guarding any statue. and many of our town's died when we exported auto manufacturing to canada and mexico with nafta