You arrested all the Proud Boys who did show up to fight Antifa, then you let tyrant techs and every bank in the country persecute them out of existence.
We got the message. You're on your own.
You didn't defend us when we led and defended you and our way of life.
Now you come crying to us asking us to risk all - again - to save your sorry coward ass. FUCK YOU.
Free Gavin McGinnis and prosecute everyone who attacked him, then we'll talk.
Portland voted for it. Not sure why you expect us to show up.
If they move and act beyond portland district (portland is its own area and they vote for what they think is best for THEIR area.) Then we can move in.
Got it homie?
Gotta be smart about it... though i understand your sentiment. Im waitin'
I feel you. But this shit is out of control. The Feds hands are tied....The cops aren't doing shit. Even though these people voted for this crap there are many patriotic citizens whose rights are being infringed by these insurrectionists. Somebody has to do something at some point or it will spread as it has in our society. Think MLB, NFL, NASCAR.... This shit has to be stopped. Period.
The united states was originally designed to be "united states" that were individually governed by the state. But as a whole we are a unified country. We arent like other countries and nations.
Trump is trying to help us return to this, but it isnt going to be pretty. Some states will have to deal and recover from the actions of their votes.
But i want to be 100% clear i understand you and wish we could roll up in. But this is the way it was originally designed to be, and trump is trying to return us to real TRUE law and order. Even if it comes with a few consequences
Feds hands are not "tied" - miss me with that coward impotence shit.
The Feds were perfectly able and willing to run five continent spy operations against a fucking sitting president and 20 year wars against active guerillas with AKs and RPGs planting IEDs on every fucking street corner. You try to tell me they can't handle four corrupt commie mayors and 3000 wimpy college drop outs and meth heads with fireworks and bottles.
Everyone making excuses for inaction by the authorities is just a fucking coward and just fucking lying. AGAIN.
Agreed. I get that some are thinking “its a trap” and imagine that visuals of crackdown are what the left wants out of their acting out, to reinforce their narrative to their supporters that they are heroically fighting against a monolithic evil state. But basing your actions on the mental perceptions of committed enemies is not a winning strategy in politics. It gives them control over your actions.
Instead, the administration needs to think about the way their supporters see things right now. Your sales pitch becomes “evil enemies get to murder our supporters with impunity; our supporters must shut up, stay home, post nothing, be insulted, and get murdered from time to time”. This has never been a winning sales pitch in the history of the world.
Your supporters want to see our side winning, as Trump famously understands. They want to see courage, leadership, toughness, and action. We know Trump is on our side and we are on his - not the problem. The question before the house is whether we as a nation surrender to lawless evil aggression or stamp it out and assert our right to exist and to be left alone by those evil busybodies. You can’t convince people that the second is a live option that they can achieve by re-electing Trump if there is no sign Trump is willing to crack the heads to do it, himself.
If the idea was to let the left go far enough to hang itself, then trust me, the country is there already. What people are looking for - more and more desperately and with less and less confidence it exists anywhere - is someone to push back against all this lawless disorder effectively. Not with words and losing - like congressional Rs falling all over themselves to rename military bases or every corporation in America falling all over themselves to pay protection money to the evil commies and kneel before them begging for mercy.
We’ve had it up to our eye teeth with all the cowardice on display. If we don’t see action, we aren’t going to enthusiastically ask for this state to continue - which is all the Rs are offering right now, and which no one in the world wants - we are going to “seek new guards for our peace and safety.”
No, it isn't "law and order" to let local commies secede from the union and destroy the property and rights of American citizens. It is weak, coward, butt covering bullshit. The limited stuff the DHS is doing it marginally better than nothing, but what should be happening is (1) all these local commies undermining law, letting criminals go, attacking the police etc should all be arrested on federal charges of insurrection and obstruction of justice and hauled off to Leavenworth, (2) the National Guard should be sent into all these cities to restore order at gunpoint with live ammo and full authorization to use it at the slightest provocation, while also (3) the president should make clear that not a dime will leave the federal treasury for any reason, anywhere, until perfect peace and order reign in that place. Including no covid relief payments, no extended unemployment benefit funding. No money for rioters, for any reason, on any pretext.
This is also true for Seattle. You will see Seattle get hollowed out like any communist country. This Sunday the place will be on fire as the Police chief there already said that she will not put her man on the line since they took away their tools to defend them self.
The issues in the Pacific Northwest are directly related to China's level of control in that part of the nation.
Shit on California all day long, but California has more direct independence from China than Oregon and Washington, Oregon and Washington would collapse the day after China stopped using those ports as their main ports of call for commercial shipping.
I wonder...will that happen? When? This is a very dangerous spark that could seriously light a fire that nobody wants and nobody will be able to ignore.
Have you watched the streams? We're on day 58. The FEDS hands are tied. I see zero law and order there. If they can take one city who stops them from taking more cities? This shit needs to be squashed.... And fast!
I am disappointed. Bikers for Trump should crash that party! Or somebody! The "silent majority" needs to take back our cities from these terrorists if the police aren't going to do anything then it's our job to do something!
Silent majority - if we even are still a majority (I sometimes wonder) - will only react when things really get hot. This would have to spread further into the suburbs and there would have to be a much higher body count for the masses to wake up.
You arrested all the Proud Boys who did show up to fight Antifa, then you let tyrant techs and every bank in the country persecute them out of existence.
We got the message. You're on your own.
You didn't defend us when we led and defended you and our way of life.
Now you come crying to us asking us to risk all - again - to save your sorry coward ass. FUCK YOU.
Free Gavin McGinnis and prosecute everyone who attacked him, then we'll talk.
yup. and they would strip your 2a
Portland voted for it. Not sure why you expect us to show up.
If they move and act beyond portland district (portland is its own area and they vote for what they think is best for THEIR area.) Then we can move in.
Got it homie?
Gotta be smart about it... though i understand your sentiment. Im waitin'
I feel you. But this shit is out of control. The Feds hands are tied....The cops aren't doing shit. Even though these people voted for this crap there are many patriotic citizens whose rights are being infringed by these insurrectionists. Somebody has to do something at some point or it will spread as it has in our society. Think MLB, NFL, NASCAR.... This shit has to be stopped. Period.
The united states was originally designed to be "united states" that were individually governed by the state. But as a whole we are a unified country. We arent like other countries and nations.
Trump is trying to help us return to this, but it isnt going to be pretty. Some states will have to deal and recover from the actions of their votes.
But i want to be 100% clear i understand you and wish we could roll up in. But this is the way it was originally designed to be, and trump is trying to return us to real TRUE law and order. Even if it comes with a few consequences
Feds hands are not "tied" - miss me with that coward impotence shit.
The Feds were perfectly able and willing to run five continent spy operations against a fucking sitting president and 20 year wars against active guerillas with AKs and RPGs planting IEDs on every fucking street corner. You try to tell me they can't handle four corrupt commie mayors and 3000 wimpy college drop outs and meth heads with fireworks and bottles.
Everyone making excuses for inaction by the authorities is just a fucking coward and just fucking lying. AGAIN.
You're right they absolutely can handle it. Bit they aren't. And this shit is spreading!
Agreed. What is missing is (as usual) political will. So let's look to it.
Agreed. I get that some are thinking “its a trap” and imagine that visuals of crackdown are what the left wants out of their acting out, to reinforce their narrative to their supporters that they are heroically fighting against a monolithic evil state. But basing your actions on the mental perceptions of committed enemies is not a winning strategy in politics. It gives them control over your actions.
Instead, the administration needs to think about the way their supporters see things right now. Your sales pitch becomes “evil enemies get to murder our supporters with impunity; our supporters must shut up, stay home, post nothing, be insulted, and get murdered from time to time”. This has never been a winning sales pitch in the history of the world.
Your supporters want to see our side winning, as Trump famously understands. They want to see courage, leadership, toughness, and action. We know Trump is on our side and we are on his - not the problem. The question before the house is whether we as a nation surrender to lawless evil aggression or stamp it out and assert our right to exist and to be left alone by those evil busybodies. You can’t convince people that the second is a live option that they can achieve by re-electing Trump if there is no sign Trump is willing to crack the heads to do it, himself.
If the idea was to let the left go far enough to hang itself, then trust me, the country is there already. What people are looking for - more and more desperately and with less and less confidence it exists anywhere - is someone to push back against all this lawless disorder effectively. Not with words and losing - like congressional Rs falling all over themselves to rename military bases or every corporation in America falling all over themselves to pay protection money to the evil commies and kneel before them begging for mercy.
We’ve had it up to our eye teeth with all the cowardice on display. If we don’t see action, we aren’t going to enthusiastically ask for this state to continue - which is all the Rs are offering right now, and which no one in the world wants - we are going to “seek new guards for our peace and safety.”
No, it isn't "law and order" to let local commies secede from the union and destroy the property and rights of American citizens. It is weak, coward, butt covering bullshit. The limited stuff the DHS is doing it marginally better than nothing, but what should be happening is (1) all these local commies undermining law, letting criminals go, attacking the police etc should all be arrested on federal charges of insurrection and obstruction of justice and hauled off to Leavenworth, (2) the National Guard should be sent into all these cities to restore order at gunpoint with live ammo and full authorization to use it at the slightest provocation, while also (3) the president should make clear that not a dime will leave the federal treasury for any reason, anywhere, until perfect peace and order reign in that place. Including no covid relief payments, no extended unemployment benefit funding. No money for rioters, for any reason, on any pretext.
This.
This is also true for Seattle. You will see Seattle get hollowed out like any communist country. This Sunday the place will be on fire as the Police chief there already said that she will not put her man on the line since they took away their tools to defend them self.
They're in Beaverton with their families.
The issues in the Pacific Northwest are directly related to China's level of control in that part of the nation.
Shit on California all day long, but California has more direct independence from China than Oregon and Washington, Oregon and Washington would collapse the day after China stopped using those ports as their main ports of call for commercial shipping.
They move out further they will get shot. believe me.
we wanna see Portland burn also.
I wonder...will that happen? When? This is a very dangerous spark that could seriously light a fire that nobody wants and nobody will be able to ignore.
They gonna get charged with sedition and removed soon im sure.
We shall see. I would hope so.
Right now, the police are protecting the commies, even though the commies are unaware of it.
If they are successful in getting rid of the police, they will live to regret it. But, not for very long.
Where am I at? Letting Portland lie in the bed it made for itself. That's where.
Fuck Portland, let it burn.
And then what? They absolutely will not stop there.
Who cares?
Portland will either fix itself or burn itself out.
58 days so far...and it's not burning itself out. It's getting bigger and worse. At what point do we wake up and do something?
Why should I do something to help people that got what they voted for?
That's what the mayor of Minneapolis said about the 3rd precinct.
Once it burned, riots spread nationwide.
Giving them an inch emboldens them. If they can take a city, why not a nation?
You give them nothing.
Riots didn’t spread nationwide because the precinct was torched, they spread because Democrat run cities are shitholes filled with man-children.
Why? its portland. We expect this shit in that hell hole
You won't help the situation by doing anything ... you will make it worse.
Trump is establishing law and order now...people see that.
Have you watched the streams? We're on day 58. The FEDS hands are tied. I see zero law and order there. If they can take one city who stops them from taking more cities? This shit needs to be squashed.... And fast!
I am disappointed. Bikers for Trump should crash that party! Or somebody! The "silent majority" needs to take back our cities from these terrorists if the police aren't going to do anything then it's our job to do something!
Silent majority - if we even are still a majority (I sometimes wonder) - will only react when things really get hot. This would have to spread further into the suburbs and there would have to be a much higher body count for the masses to wake up.