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CrimsonClown 3 points ago +3 / -0

I... Uh... would like one of the links to these bits of history. When did the lawsuit happen? It seems like Irish slavery existed before black slavery, so I was curious as two when these things happened in relation to each other.

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Isolated_Patriot 2 points ago +3 / -1

Surprisingly still available on wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)

It has been significantly edited down over the years, particularly the lawsuit itself and information about the judge, but it the main facts are still there.

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CrimsonClown 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks for that.

So, the article mentions that there were cases of slavery before this court case but that this one in particular was significant because it was the first official* case of lifelong slavery.

*Official being that a court ruled on it being just, not to be confused with proof of slavery predating such.

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Isolated_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Basically, yes. This created a legal precedent for slavery above and beyond the previous laws, and lead to the classification of the black slaves as less than human according to the law.

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yeah, especially with an emphasis on Democrats causing this when the Democrat party didn't exist for another 200 years

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CrimsonClown 0 points ago +1 / -1

So, I did some research and it seems like there is some weirdness here.

It would seem that there is a difference between indentured servitude and African chattel slavery. The difference appears to be more technical than practical. That being slavery for a minimum of 7 years without permission to sire off spring or marry in that time period unless granted by the master. Doing such without permission would result in the child being born “endentured” and time being added to the father’s sentence. How long th Echols would remain endentured is unknown to me. Some said 12 years or until 30, such would vary based on customs, while another source said that was for native Americans, so take it with a grain of salt.

Irish slavery was particularly bad in the Caribbean apparently. I’m not an expert or historian, just some guy on the Internet researching such. It would seem that, with the exception of the Caribbean, Irish slavery had a light at the end of the tunnel.