Stop thinking "Jeffrey Epstein - Pimp of minors"

posted 266 days ago by ShrikeDeCil 266 days ago by ShrikeDeCil +21 / -0

Stop thinking "Jeffrey Epstein - Pimp of minors"

This just isn't what was going on. (Anyone that wants to chime in with more details, feel free! Please!)

He was intentionally running a honeypot - that's the realm of true organized crime or an actual intelligence agency.

I say this because it should be the FIRST thing rebutted anytime we see the stupid "Fully-clothed party pictures" with any of them. It should be re-said Every. Single. Time

The way a honeypot (and corruption-blackmail too) is that they revolve around the slippery slope. You aren't supposed to see the trap before you're actually literally trapped - at least a little. The farther in you get before you buy a clue, the easier it is to say "Heh, well, I have this pic and that pic, you might as well do XYZ for me ... and I'll get you something better "

Epstein appears to run this way. (Please correct me!)

He's an "Elite Party Hound" - "Gala to save the three-toed unicorn for $10,000 a plate? Sign me up!" They all have photos with him. They are a lot harder to find now "somehow", but photos of Epstein with Hollywood, Governors, Senators, Bankers, Magnates-of-all types - all sorts of photos that are perfectly ordinary public event sort of stuff. Note that he would show up with two females that had ID "18 + 1 day" or so and just hang. This is me speculating, but I'd bet he always would have a running commentary "Well, parties at my place are better."
Because parties at his place were "better". As it's his place, he's responsible for hiring the catering, the waitstaff, and any amenities (masseuse) that one might want there. Even if you ask, everyone involved is going to insist they're all 18 and have ID to prove it. (Because ... organized crime or spies!) But his entire place is 'wired'. This is in the record. This allows the snapshots of Person X patting the underage waitress on the ass or whatever. You've lowered everyone's defenses and insisted you're aboveboard ... but they aren't. There were plenty of claims that his NYC place had a full bookcase of "Person X with Female Y" DVDs. And this is still just the outer area. "Oh, well, if you came to my little island, we could have real fun. (Spew random bullshit about different laws in 'territories' or whatever here)."
So then there's the plane. Also wired. And staffed by known-underage types. And the plane list for flights to Little St. James in a plane with a bed. For completeness note that he owned a second plane, and Trump did fly on that second plane back to NYC from Florida (something like that.) I can see "Perfectly ordinary plane flights" to his island that are basically fine. But there's a couple reports on the Clinton plane flights in particular where the plane flights themselves were clear problems. Regardless, here's the suspected full plane flight logs.

Adam Perry Lang, Akon (Aliaune Damala Badara Akon Thiam), Alan Dershowitz , Albero Pinto, Alec Baldwin , Alyssa Roberts, Anderson Cooper , Andrea Mitrovich, Andreas Pastrana (for Columbia president), Anthony Kiedis, Audrey Raimbault, Barak Obama , Ben Affleck , Beyonce Knowles, Bill Clinton , Bill Hammond, Bill Murray , Brian Affleck, Caren Casey, Casey Wasserman, Charlie Sheen , Chelsea Handler, Chris Tucker, Chris Wagner, Chrissy Teigen , Cindy Lopez , Claire Hazel, Courtney Love, Dan Schneider, David Koch, David Koch, David Yarovesky (Yarvol), Demi Moore, Doug Band, Ed Tuttle, Ehud Barak , Ellen Spencer, Emmy Tayler, Fleur Perry Lang, Freya Wissing, Gary Roxburgh, Ghislane Maxwell, Glen Dubin, Greg Holbert, Gwen Stefani, Gwendolyn Beck, Hank Coller, Heather Mann, Henry Rosovsky, James Franco, James Gunn , James Luc Brunel, Jean Michelle Gathy, Jeffery Epstein, Jeffery Jones, Jeffery Epstein, Jim Carrey , Jimmy Kimmel , Jo Pagino, John Kusack , John Legend, Juan Pablo Molyneux, Juliette Bryant, Justin Rolland, Kathy Griffin , Katy Perry (Katheryn Elizabeth Hudson), Kelly Spamm, Kevin Spacey , Kirsty Rodgers, Larry Summers, Larry Visoski, Laura Wasserman, Lawrence Krauss, Linda Pinto, Lisa Summers, Lynn Forester De Rothchild , Madona Ciccone, Mandy Ellison , Marc Collins-Rector, Mark Epstein, Mark Lloyd, Marshall Mathers III ( Eminem ), Melinda Luntz, Meryl Streep, Michelle Wolf, Naomi Campbell , Natalie Blanchon(De Perrier), Nicole Junkermann, Oliver Sachs, Oprah Winfrey, Paul Hala, Paul Mellon, Paula Epstein, Peter Marino, Pharrel Williams, Quentin Taratino , Ralph Ellison, Ray Barzanna, Ricardo Legoretta, Robert Downey Jr , Rodney Slater, Ron Burke, Sandy Burger , Sarah Kellen, Seth Green, Shawn Carter, Shelley Harrison, Shelley Lewis, Sophie Biddie, Stefani Germanotta, Stephan Collins, Steven Colbert , Steven Spielberg , Steven Tyler, Svetlana Griaznova, Teala Davis, Tiffany Gramza, Tom Hanks , Tom Pritzker , Tyler Grasham, Victor Salva, Virginia Roberts, Wanda Sykes , Will Ferrell , Will Smith , Woody Allen

(Bolding just some key names. A lot of the others need explanations)

And then there's the island. Reports from the local workers include "Kids running around nude/topless". The plane is how you get to the island. There's a lot of rumors, speculation about more going on here, from things that are (IIRC) provable (Disney Cruise Lines would stop in that precise bay) and (Ghislane Maxwell is submarine-certified) off into "Ok, if that's true... I'm glad the death penalty was re-imposed." And then ... he has another chunk of the neighboring island. And is near Biden's island. And he has a ranch that's not searched AFAIK.

So it's important to realize the distinctions. Epstein was not running around screaming "I pimp minors, call me, 867-5309!". He's playing the part of a playboy that like the "Eighteen-plus-one-day" type and lives "life to the fullest". "Next week I'm judging swimsuits in Milan!" Playing the part of someone still respectable enough to get the invitations to the MET or what have you.

So:

Category 1) There's probably 10,000 people with "Photo with the Host/Hostess" type pictures andor photos take in purely public situations. The only thing we've seen thus far of Trump is in this basic block. (And, I think, one of the photos is of Epstein at Mar Lago - so "Photo with Host/Hostess" going the other way!)

Category 2) Prince Andrew's picture(s). It doesn't seem like gala pictures, and ... I doubt they're 18 in those pictures. This leads to a "Bookcase of DVDs" - some of which may not be explicit sex, but instead "Oh, look a hand here" and "Kiss in the corner" and "That masseuse..." That is, the pressure to take that next step. "Well, I know you like it, come to my island..."

Category 3) Island...

Berman of SDNY DOJ was holding anything involved with Epstein, Maxwell, Weiner, Laptop ... all of those cases go through the SDNY branch. Realize he is the one that nearly had to be involved with Epsteining ... Epstein. He "stepped down" June 20 2020 ... and all this has just been bubbling up since then.

Off-handed comment by Trump "I wish her well" ... -> Reddit digging again "There has to be something there! Has to be!"

I'll also note that I saw one of Maxwell with Jon Benet Ramsey a couple days back.

This is going to be darker than anyone thinks.

The Left's ongoing Great War on Sanity, July 25

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. Sun Tzu The Art of War