Probably not a tax dodge. International and multiple country tax is done mostly by treaty with that country. The only surefire way to escape US tax on foreign income is to completely give up citizenship or die. Sauce: am cpa.
The United States should disallow all dual citizenship. Everyone with dual citizenship should be given 1 year to either give up their citizenship in a foreign nation or have their US citizenship revoked and be deported to that other nation.
I have to agree. Americans can't have dual loyalties therefore, they can't have dual citizenships.
Oath of Citizenship
“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;
that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law;
that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law;
that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law;
and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”
You are not considered a US citizen and until you take this oath. In addition to requiring your loyalty, this oath also requires you to possibly bear arms for the US and to give up any hereditary titles.
g, rly....wow. Maybe that's why I asked the other dualists apologists if he was born in the U.S.
btw, I'm against ALL dual citizenship, not just dual citizenship maintained by immigrants. I think every single American with dual citizenship should be stripped of their American citizenship.
It's more nuanced than that. The US does not recognize dual citizenship, but they do recognize that another country can grant citizenship to an American citizen without the American citizen taking explicit action that denounces their American citizenship. And that getting a foreign passport for travel convenience does not constitute renouncing your American citizenship.
What that means is an American can get duel citizenship without publicly renouncing their American citizenship. Especially through marriage or birth.
However, if there is ever a situation where you need the US government to intervene on your behalf with the other government, then you have a tough choice to make.
For example, I read one story where a young man had dual Israeli and US citizenship, was living in Israel, and was being told by the Israeli government that he was being drafted into the Israeli military. He went to the American consulate and tried to get help from the US government to avoid Israeli military service. The US response was, "why does Israel think they can draft you?" His response was "I'm an Israeli citizen". "Oh, so you're not an American citizen, sorry we can't help you." "No, I am an American citizen, I have dual citizenship!" "No, you're either an American citizen or an Israeli. If you want our help, you're going to need to choose which it is."
I don't know if that story is true or not. However, it does illustrate the State Departments position on dual citizenship.
My wife and son have dual citizenship, and I looked up the State Department's guidelines on it several years ago when my wife was registering our son as a citizen in Mexico. The text now is essentially the same as then. And that website says what I said in my comment, just in different terms.
U.S. law does not mention dual nationality
That says the US does not recognize dual citizenship, as there is no mention of it in US law.
Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice.
That says the state department recognizes that other countries may grant citizenship to an American citizen without the American citizen taking explicit action that denounces their American citizenship.
Dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries, and either country has the right to enforce its laws.
This is the only part that had any substantial changes. Yet, the young Israeli example I gave would still play out the same. The US government would not be able to intervene in preventing the country of Israel from drafting the young Israeli/US citizen, because he is subject to Israeli law. He would have to renounce his Israeli citizenship in order for Israeli law to no longer apply to him, and the US State Department would not intervene until then. The only difference would be that the State Department would no longer tell him he is one or the other. The end result would still be the same, the State Depart wouldn't lift a finger until he renounces his Israeli citizenship.
U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship.
that a US citizen may naturalize in a foreign state with out risk to their US citizenship actually says the US recognizes dual citizenship. It is because US law does not mention the possibility. If there is no code stating you cannot cross the middle of the street, you cannot be charged with jaywalking then.
as to your other points and your story about the Israeli, I cannot argue if you wish to believe a made up story over what is said by the state department. Believe what you will, I just cannot argue the point today.
Unlikely that Greece would seriously damage diplomatic relations just to protect one citizen for a crime that he wold have been arrested for in Greece anyways
Honestly we are going to probably see more famous actors trying to get citizenship outside of the USA, the curtain has been lifted on their pedophilic activities and it’s scaring them shitless!
Idk about 26 times. We're not taking about meeting Epstein, we're talking about flying to his island. Don't conflate the two.
Hanks also has posted things on Instagram like children's clothes, along side odd phrases when ran through specific search engines bring up kiddie porn stuff. Also Hanks has had a woman directly accuse him off "buying her" and being groomed to be a sex slave.
Nothing definitive, and I think the Hanks hate is a little premature (I still believe in innocent until proven guilty), but there's enough for suspicion at least.
Unless it's a tax dodge if they think Biden wins. If Biden wins, it's gonna be ugly.
Before you check into that FEMA camp, listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+clash+guns+of+brixton
Does anyone else find it odd that Americans are not even allowed in the EU currently?
It's a world-wide effort to get Trump out of office.
Probably not a tax dodge. International and multiple country tax is done mostly by treaty with that country. The only surefire way to escape US tax on foreign income is to completely give up citizenship or die. Sauce: am cpa.
The United States should disallow all dual citizenship. Everyone with dual citizenship should be given 1 year to either give up their citizenship in a foreign nation or have their US citizenship revoked and be deported to that other nation.
I have to agree. Americans can't have dual loyalties therefore, they can't have dual citizenships.
You are not considered a US citizen and until you take this oath. In addition to requiring your loyalty, this oath also requires you to possibly bear arms for the US and to give up any hereditary titles.
I am considered a US citizen with dual citizenship and I took no such oath...
Were you born in the U.S. ?
Same here. Born in USA. Mother born in Austria. I have dual citizenship.
Oath of citizenship not the same as already being a citizen
g, rly....wow. Maybe that's why I asked the other dualists apologists if he was born in the U.S.
btw, I'm against ALL dual citizenship, not just dual citizenship maintained by immigrants. I think every single American with dual citizenship should be stripped of their American citizenship.
US recognizes dual citizenship with many countries now
It's more nuanced than that. The US does not recognize dual citizenship, but they do recognize that another country can grant citizenship to an American citizen without the American citizen taking explicit action that denounces their American citizenship. And that getting a foreign passport for travel convenience does not constitute renouncing your American citizenship.
What that means is an American can get duel citizenship without publicly renouncing their American citizenship. Especially through marriage or birth.
However, if there is ever a situation where you need the US government to intervene on your behalf with the other government, then you have a tough choice to make.
For example, I read one story where a young man had dual Israeli and US citizenship, was living in Israel, and was being told by the Israeli government that he was being drafted into the Israeli military. He went to the American consulate and tried to get help from the US government to avoid Israeli military service. The US response was, "why does Israel think they can draft you?" His response was "I'm an Israeli citizen". "Oh, so you're not an American citizen, sorry we can't help you." "No, I am an American citizen, I have dual citizenship!" "No, you're either an American citizen or an Israeli. If you want our help, you're going to need to choose which it is."
I don't know if that story is true or not. However, it does illustrate the State Departments position on dual citizenship.
this is from the US State Dept website
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html
My wife and son have dual citizenship, and I looked up the State Department's guidelines on it several years ago when my wife was registering our son as a citizen in Mexico. The text now is essentially the same as then. And that website says what I said in my comment, just in different terms.
That says the US does not recognize dual citizenship, as there is no mention of it in US law.
That says the state department recognizes that other countries may grant citizenship to an American citizen without the American citizen taking explicit action that denounces their American citizenship.
This is the only part that had any substantial changes. Yet, the young Israeli example I gave would still play out the same. The US government would not be able to intervene in preventing the country of Israel from drafting the young Israeli/US citizen, because he is subject to Israeli law. He would have to renounce his Israeli citizenship in order for Israeli law to no longer apply to him, and the US State Department would not intervene until then. The only difference would be that the State Department would no longer tell him he is one or the other. The end result would still be the same, the State Depart wouldn't lift a finger until he renounces his Israeli citizenship.
what you are saying is not necessarily true.
that a US citizen may naturalize in a foreign state with out risk to their US citizenship actually says the US recognizes dual citizenship. It is because US law does not mention the possibility. If there is no code stating you cannot cross the middle of the street, you cannot be charged with jaywalking then.
as to your other points and your story about the Israeli, I cannot argue if you wish to believe a made up story over what is said by the state department. Believe what you will, I just cannot argue the point today.
Can a spouse of someone who has a grandparent born in Greece get citizenship ?
Obama had no problem droning even US citizens
Interesting. Greece has an extradition treaty with the US.
I don't believe Greece will extradite Greek citizens. Not sure though.
Unlikely that Greece would seriously damage diplomatic relations just to protect one citizen for a crime that he wold have been arrested for in Greece anyways
Yeah usually when peaceful countries block extradition it’s usually because
A) the case is very weak
B) it is not a crime or nearly as serious of a crime in the blocker country
C) sole citizenship in the blocker country and it’s not a serious crime
European countries don't care. Roman Polanski is still in France. They won't extradite because he's French.
I thought he moved over there precisely because they didn't?
Hold on, give me exactly one minute to answer this question definitively.for you.
https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=Greece%20USA%20extradition%20treaty
Look at the second result. You're welcome.
In that case, why did he choose that country instead of another with no such treaty...
Uh, we don't know, that's why it's so curious.
The PM of Greece just posted this... though seems like the picture was taken in January 2020? Why post it now then?
He ded
apology for poor english
when were you when tom hanx die?
i was sat at home eating smegma butter when pjotr ring
‘tom is kill’
‘no’
classic pjotr
Epsteins pals trying to avoid justice
He looks ill at ease.
He does. The picture has a wierd vibe and Hanks knows it.
Isn’t there a lot of weird sexual activity on some of those Greek islands.....🤔
And endless supply of migrant children
Homosexuality with young boys specifically
Yeah it’s a diversion because they are pedos not lesbians
Tom Hanks looks just like you would think a pedophile would if he were to play one in a movie.
*sudden stop
they want the 42 year old retirement age.
I'm sure they are really gonna come down on them HARD. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson will be in jail any day now..
TrUsT tH3 P1An - is what i keep hearing.
Did he return the medal that Obama gave him?
Age of concent is 15 there?
The rapefugee muslims cut down 5000 olive trees in Greece.
i wonder why t.hanks isnt smiling?
He looks nervous.
Don be scaar, Tum..
God I hope this means pedo arrests are coming and Ghislaine is squealing truthfully. What better icing on my November cake?
Honestly we are going to probably see more famous actors trying to get citizenship outside of the USA, the curtain has been lifted on their pedophilic activities and it’s scaring them shitless!
And they're tossing in an incendiary grenade into America on their way out. Paying for rioters bail, encouraging domestic terrorism etc.
Malaka
That dumbass. We have an extradition treaty with Greece.
HANX
Wonder if Greece will hand them over once Turkey is breathing down their neck and NATO is impotent to help them?
Good now stay there
I've seen a lot of anti-Hanks stuff on here. Can someone link me to the WHY?
Epstein
What about him? Trump met Epstein at one point and only later - after seeing what he was all about - told him to fuck right off.
Epstein tried to groom LOTS of people. Some successfully, some not so.
Clinton went on the Lolita Express 26 times. Are we saying Hanks did as well?
Idk about 26 times. We're not taking about meeting Epstein, we're talking about flying to his island. Don't conflate the two.
Hanks also has posted things on Instagram like children's clothes, along side odd phrases when ran through specific search engines bring up kiddie porn stuff. Also Hanks has had a woman directly accuse him off "buying her" and being groomed to be a sex slave.
Nothing definitive, and I think the Hanks hate is a little premature (I still believe in innocent until proven guilty), but there's enough for suspicion at least.