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Skippious 1 point ago +1 / -0

My wife and son have dual citizenship, and I looked up the State Department's guidelines on it several years ago when my wife was registering our son as a citizen in Mexico. The text now is essentially the same as then. And that website says what I said in my comment, just in different terms.

U.S. law does not mention dual nationality

That says the US does not recognize dual citizenship, as there is no mention of it in US law.

Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice.

That says the state department recognizes that other countries may grant citizenship to an American citizen without the American citizen taking explicit action that denounces their American citizenship.

Dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries, and either country has the right to enforce its laws.

This is the only part that had any substantial changes. Yet, the young Israeli example I gave would still play out the same. The US government would not be able to intervene in preventing the country of Israel from drafting the young Israeli/US citizen, because he is subject to Israeli law. He would have to renounce his Israeli citizenship in order for Israeli law to no longer apply to him, and the US State Department would not intervene until then. The only difference would be that the State Department would no longer tell him he is one or the other. The end result would still be the same, the State Depart wouldn't lift a finger until he renounces his Israeli citizenship.

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motrhed3 1 point ago +1 / -0

what you are saying is not necessarily true.

U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship.

that a US citizen may naturalize in a foreign state with out risk to their US citizenship actually says the US recognizes dual citizenship. It is because US law does not mention the possibility. If there is no code stating you cannot cross the middle of the street, you cannot be charged with jaywalking then.

as to your other points and your story about the Israeli, I cannot argue if you wish to believe a made up story over what is said by the state department. Believe what you will, I just cannot argue the point today.

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Skippious 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, what I am saying is true. With the possible exception of the Israeli story, which I pointed out may not have happened. But still used it as an example.

That a US citizen may naturalize in a foreign state with out risk to their US citizenship actually says the US recognizes dual citizenship

No it doesn't. You are confusing what the US government recognizes and what is true in practical terms.

  1. It is true that the US does not recognize dual citizenship.

  2. It is also true that the US State Department realizes that another country can grant citizenship to a US citizen without the US citizen denouncing their US citizenship.

Point one is true. It is true because the US law says nothing about dual citizenship. It does not recognize it, but it also does not explicitly abolish it. Because it does not explicitly abolish it, or address it, the US State Department is dealing with people who claim dual citizenship in practical matters. In absence of US law stating one way or the other, the US State Department has decided to take a neutral approach with those that claim dual citizenship. However, that absolutely does not mean that the US recognizes dual citizenship.

So, point two is true. However, point two being true does not mean the US recognizes dual citizenship, as it is not US law. It's State Department policy on an issue that US law does not cover. Which is capable of changing purely on the whim of the Secretary of State, unless it contradicts established law. And since there is no established law in this concern, US State Department policy is whatever the Secretary of State says it is.

What does all that mean? It means that unless Congress enacts a law recognizing dual citizenship, or the Supreme Court rules on an issue involving dual citizenship, dual citizenship is not part of US law. Therefore, the US does not recognize dual citizenship. End of story.

I'm sorry if that destroys an illusion of yours, but that's life. You can keep saying you have dual citizenship. I say that my wife and son are dual citizens. Because in practical terms, it's true. However, that still doesn't change the fact the the United States does not officially recognize dual citizenship.

There is no need to argue any further. If you wish to prove me wrong simply point to the section of US law, not department policies, but actual US law, that says dual citizenship exists and to which countries it is recognized? I'm not going to wait, because I know you can't point to what doesn't exist.