You cant win over crowds who naively believe in Social Justice rallies and BLM rallies as fighting for the downtrodden by claiming that what they're doing is against high ideals and values of the country.
You can only win the stupid masses through appeals to selfishness.
Whenever I discuss social issues, I always frame it through the lens of women or minorities. For instance, on the issue of taxation, I always represent "if they force a woman to pay for X and she doesnt like it, why should she have to?".
Because I'm playing to the sympathies of the crowd.
If you continue to market your ideas under an umbrella of "whiteness and maleness are under attack", those are two of the least sympathetic groups in our sick marxist indoctrinated society.
So you will not get anywhere with them.
Turn "women most affected" against the crowds. Turn "blacks most affected" against them.
You cannot win trying to maintain your idealistic ruleset of what is Good Argument.
Once again, reason comes to mind. Thank you.
I don’t engage them. I tell them “no” and go about my day.
Do you wear a fedora by chance?
how many people do you think are trying to win those dumbasses over? i'm used to seeing people use them as advertisement of the opposition's ridiculousness.
> appeal to selfishness
> frame it towards minorities
math doesn't check out
your perception is mistaken in that it isn't idealism we fight for, but rather truth. socialists are fighting for idealism. idealism is a fantasy.
your mistake was thinking I said you'er fighting for idealism rather than using idealism.
if I were to be using idealism I'd be using bullets, I disagree with your interpretation