The Teacher Unions demand: (1) No Charter Schools; (2) No School Choice; (3) No Firing Bad or Incompetent Teachers; (4) No Curriculum Review; (5) No Opposing Questions of any kind... - Clearly, Ladies and Gentlemen, the Teacher Unions need to be given "The Regan Treatment"!
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CORRUPTION
Shut down public schools permanently. They have failed us.
Honestly, there will never be a better time to flush out these Augean Stables.
If we're not going to, what's the point in all this running for office in the first place? It's got to be done.
Thank you for making me brush up on my Greek mythology!
It is, an Odyssey. (Sorry - could not refuse!)
Agree.
Proper school choice will do that for us. "I've worked in the private sector, they expect results".
They wouldn't last a year in the free market.
It terrifies me to realize how many people I know who are laughably unqualified to be teaching children, teenagers or college age adults - who do JUST THAT for a living.
Low expectations begets low results begets low pay begets low quality job seekers repeat cycle
Well the whole premise is they don't need to know anything other than how to read from the prescribed curriculum.
It's more like daycare than school.
Because public education isn't about teaching students how to think, it's about teaching them what to think.
Nice Ghostbusters reference.
Haha one of the most classic lines in all of cinema history!
Well played citing Ghostusters, Plain.
Whoever develops an affordable homeschool progam will be raking in cash. Just need to focus on the 7 classical arts. The trivium(grammar, logic and rhetoric) and quadrivium (arithmetic, geometry, music and cosmology). Its what the ancient Greeks did and the Romans stole it from them. It teaches people how to think instead of pouring facts, now mostly lies, down kids throats and have them throw it up on a bubble sheet.
I'm doing a mix of things (one of the benefits of homeschooling). I'm using Memoria Press for a few subjects like arithmetic and Literature. This will be my first year doing this for my 5th grader so I'm looking forward to getting started.
Also aThomas Jefferson Education https://tjed.org/
Shoot even Ron Paul has one.
Never heard of these. Thanks
Problem is, people having the ability to homeschool. As they tighten economy and devalue the dollar most families cant afford to do it on one income. Not to mention the number of single parent homes these days.
They were a failure since their beginning - everywhere. The base idea was "equality of opportunity", which can be understood as a form of "soft equity", and the intention was to streamline education for the bulk of society in a way to create obedient factory workers and aggressive soldiers.
It worked, and it significantly contributed to World War 1, because people have been indoctrinated into serving the idea of the nation by serving the state that appears to control and oversee it. It was a major collectivist push, and it is no coincidence that this outdated nationalized education system fits perfectly into the communist scheme. You'd think they'd revolutionize the education system in any significant way after they did so much else? No - it was already a perfect fit - they just adjusted some parameters.
People were willing to sacrifice their lives for their nation, the government and its wars, and the nations that fermented that obedience abused it to the maximum. World War 1 was the display of how much control governments gained and how they managed to subjugate their populations for their own, unethical goals.
And even today the public education system is of terrible quality - it does not prepare children for life, it does not teach them valuable information, it does not help them in their careers beyond what the government and its tight ally, academia, artificially mandates as relevant. A lot of it is just self-perpetuating, ancient systems for the sake of being risen to some "intellectual" priesthood at tax payer expense. And oh wonder, that elite that lives from tax payers promotes ideas and ideologies that demand more taxation and more government control.
As of today children are indoctrinated into favoring Marxism or at least tolerate it, while rejecting National Socialism because it is not socialist as they want it to be, and because it divides people as races, and not in classes as Marxists see it. Of course they can also reject the nationalism part - which can be understood as patriotism in reasonable forms - as well. And of course they ignore the detail about how the atrocities of communism and socialism surpass that of Nazis by magnitudes - that's just an inconvenient truth that needs to be silenced.
Oh and forget any sense of ethnic in-group preference - this is forbidden for the white race. We are forced to accept all races while all others races are allowed to reject whoever they want. But we are still evil because we are not tolerant enough - in fact we have to be destroyed as a race, we have to be turned into 100% cucks with no loyalty to our own kind, while being forced to respect that of everyone else. If Marxists were consequent about their ideals, they should reject Black Lives Matter in an instant, given that it is a race based, racist movement - but it is clear now what they truly oppose - it's not nationalism, it's not fascism, it's clearly not authoritarianism, it's not racism - it's Western Civilization and the white Christian.
And the best way to take us down - as a race, as a culture, as nations - is to further the very education system that is fundamental for Marxists to brainwash children, which also originally lead to WWI in all its horrors - and of course to everything after it. Because think about it - what does Collectivism truly lead to? Does it make you love your neighbor more? No. It enables you to consider your neighbor a traitor for not serving the ruling ideology, and report them to your government. It allows you to make your own people enemies. Collectivism is the ultimate tool of power for elites - or for people who are "takers" in society.
Great post.
The teachers union is literally trying to reverse Brown vs the Board of Education.
Apparently, it's a commie trick to infiltrate the unions.
From the looks of things, the teachers' union has been thoroughly compromised.
That's why so many antifa arrested the other day were teachers.
Unions are enemies of the Republic?
Always have been.
Imagine if a branch of the military decided to unionize..
I've been saying this for over a decade: the teacher's union is the worst thing to ever happen to education in this country. We let the one place that absolutely should never ever be infected with the stench of self-serving unionize and fuck everything up. Did you know there are far FAR more administrators in education these days than educators? There's a local school around here with a few hundred kids that have TWO principals. WTF?
(The "teachers" heard this loud and clear)
The president suggested a different approach in order to force the hands of schools to physically reopen.
"If schools do not reopen the funding should go to parents to send their child to public, private, charter, religious or home-school or other choice. The keyword being choice, if the school is closed the money should follow the student, so the parents are in control of their own decisions I like the money to go to the parents of the student," explained the president.
https://www.ktnv.com/13-investigates/president-trump-give-parents-federal-cash-for-choice-if-public-schools-fail-to-physically-reopen
Except in Commiefornia, Newsom bowed to the Teacher's Union and shut down most private schools too. He's holding them to the same standards for the WuFLu as he is the public schools, for opening.
My child's school was all set to open for in-person instruction, until Newsom lumped private and charter schools into his order on public schools.
It'll be interesting to see if Wolf follows his example and how the Amish will react. I'm not sure if they stopped having church when the first lockdown happened lol
That's not entirely true. My son has been going to public school but we decided to switch him over to private Catholic school this year. So far, the private Christian/Catholic schools in my area have told us to prepare for in-person instruction. Since most of the funding is private, they are thinking they can give Newsom a big middle finger.
Phildo Murphy here in NJ bites the pillow every time the teacher's unions (yes we have several thug unions in NJ, NJEA, AFT, etc.) stick in dry.
They're not going back to school until at least 2021 here.
Teachers days are numbered.
They're going to be replaced with $5/hour baby sitters and classrooms filled with PCs/Headsets connected to computer based learning that goes at the kids pace and tests the kid of learning every hour.
Yes, this is "exactly" what we need. Kids who have too much technology and lack of critical thinking skills - to be put in front of more technology with "teachers" that lack critical thinking skills...
Good! Teachers and their unions are going to be their own downfall.
(Yes I know some teachers are fantastic)
They shame parents who want to send their kids back to school by saying the parents only want free babysitting -- well then, what has school been prior to this?
Where are they? Why don't I hear from them? Are those so called "Good Teachers" paying union dues that in turn, give their money to BLM, a marxist organization that endorses cop killing? If they really were "Good Teachers," they'd leave the union and find a job teaching elsewhere. But they don't, why not? Too comfy with those taxpayer funded bennies? Their silence is deafening!
This is true. When I left my teaching job in the public education system, almost everyone I knew thought I was crazy. Good salary, weekends, summers, holidays off, great benefits and pension. Apparently having moral and ethical standards is crazy. I am now a full time stay at home mom, homeschooling my own kids. Our family income is half of what it would have been had I kept teaching, but life is so much better.
Everything is technology. Lights are technology. You might say kids should learn by candle light, but fire is a technology too.
What kids don't need are 'good enough' teachers who are there just to collect a paycheck.
What kids don't need is pushing forward at the same pace for all kids. Smart kids are bored, dumb kids get left behind.
Critical thinking isn't gained in schools anymore outside of Math, Physics and Philosophy.
Sounds better than communist apprenticeship.
Do it! We are!
Only if your actually going to teach though. My parents did homeschooling, effectively quit, but still will not put my siblings in real school.
There is more to the story tbh though. After 5 kids or so my mom could not keep up. Dad does not want to admit loss and put kids in real school, now the teaching is super spotty. As an exp, I have a sister who is 15 with 45ish credits and a 4.0 GPA in college, and a brother who is 11 and basically can't read/write for shit.
Will be homeschooling my kids. I don’t want them to get exposed to sodomy and socialism.
Homeschooling is on the rise in a big way. I am sure the Teacher's Union doesn't like that either!
Is that why they hate charter schools? What’s the deal with that?
It's all about control and compliance. Charter schools don't have to hire union teachers and they don't have to teach Marxist education.
Normally in extortion you have something of value on your side. Looking at the results on the Teacher's Union - I would say it's a bad strategy!
I've been saying that about Democrats forever now, but they still get votes somehow...same with the teachers union, they've got the media on their side. You're tantamount to child murderer if you even question their efficacy as educators.
Public schools have become glorified baby sitters anyway. Intentionally high illiteracy rate for males, training females to be fucking evil and letting illegals fucking rape anything they can stick their cocks in. Truly evil.
I am a teacher. I am not in a union. I live in a Right-to-work state. There are no unions here.
I am about to start my 18th year as a teacher. I am a veteran of the US Army. I have a STEM degree and worked for several years in a technical field before becoming a teacher. I love teaching more than any other job I have held.
I teach Honors Precalculus and AP Calculus. I teach at a school that is about 95% minorities. Maybe more than 95%. There are 1600 students at this school. I teach about 150 per year and I teach one or two white students per school year.
I arrive at about 6:15am give or take 15 minutes. There are rare exceptions. I have been absent from work 3 times in 17 years of teaching. I get home at about 5pm unless I have gate duty at an athletic event or PTO or something like that and then it can be much later.
I usually give students contact information when they graduate so that they can use me as a resource when they get to college and they get stuck. I spend quite a bit of time tutoring former students who take Calculus in college or who wait too long before taking their first math course etc.
My Precal students are tested at the end of the course and their growth is measured. A score from -2 to +2 is "meeting growth"and above +2 is "exceeded growth". The district average in the subjects that I teach is -3.6. My students averaged +21 for the 2019/2020 school year.
I did not want schools to be closed this past spring. A few weeks ago I got an email survey from the school board asking about returning to school. I want them to reopen on schedule. I am ready to go back.
I am not a liberal. I do not indoctrinate students. Many of my students respect my opinion and ask me questions that are not strictly related to my subjects. If they are political/social etc I will sometimes not answer but when I do answer I present facts from reputable sources which do not include mainstream media sites.
I have been thanked by parents more times than I can count. There have been times when parents came to the school over the summer to ensure that their child would be put into my class in the fall. I cannot imagine a higher compliment than for a parent to choose you to educate their child.
For this I am now entering my 18th school year and will earn a salary and supplement amounting to about 54.5k per year. I do get 8 weeks off in the summer. I also have to take "Continuing Education Classes" which occupies some of this time. I also have to pay for those classes.
This post is about "teacher unions" and the teachers represented by those unions. As such, it does not apply to me personally. However, I have read many posts disparaging teachers on this site. They typically do not differentiate between union and non-union teachers. To be fair, the vast majority of teachers I have worked with during my career are absolutely horrible and should not be paid as much as they earn. In a perfect world, they would be fired and replaced. Unfortunately that is not the world in which we live. There are, of course, a handful of teachers in every school who are working very hard to help.
The community in which I teach is an impoverished, minority community (I am white). If they closed the school where I work, most of these families, even with a federal voucher would not be able to educate their children. Virtually none of them could home school their children and which of them would teach their children AP Calculus? The best and brightest of these students (and they are very good) would never be educated to their full potential.
The problem is real but it is also complicated. The simple solution of firing teachers and issuing federal vouchers would be a disaster by itself.
You may want to give it a bit more thought.
Regards
The problem is the majority you speak of. They are ruining the kids, while you do your best to help them grow. If the other teachers were all like you, this country would be a better place. Unfortunately, as you know, that is not the case.
Thank you for your work though.
Thank you for your service.
Your own words: "To be fair, the vast majority of teachers I have worked with during my career are absolutely horrible and should not be paid as much as they earn. In a perfect world, they would be fired and replaced. Unfortunately that is not the world in which we live. " Let's make it the world in which we live - fire them all, you included, and let them all apply to staff a new system of public schooling where the students come first, education is the focus, and indoctrination is done away with. The free market finds solutions. Status quo is clearly not a solution.
I agree that the status quo is not a solution in this case. The status quo is at best impotent and at worst toxic.
On the other hand, if we fired everyone at once a sea of new charters schools are not out there waiting to be filled with high quality staff and students.
I think an alternative might be merit based pay based on objective standards.
Test students at the beginning and end of each course and see how much they've progressed. Base a teachers pay on their results. Basing pay on anything other than results is ludicrous.
Teachers that are doing good work would end up being well paid (and the pay needs to be good enough to attract quality people). Teachers that are ineffective could then be fired because better applicants would be available.
That would be truly allowing the market to function in education.
You aren't wrong but it's like telling a hit and run driver to hit the brakes. The only way you can have any input on the situation is deploying spike strips and destroying the tires. We aren't in the driver's seat and the people in charge are determined to run our country over.
I too thank you for your service.
Math and Science instructors trend more conservative, than those who teach other subjects.
My uncle is also a Math Teacher. He's the one who introduced me to The_Donald in the first place.
As someone with 2 higher education STEM degrees, I'll add this observation. "A good teacher is priceless. Those who are knowledgeable and passionate about there subjects can change lives. If only they weren't so rare."
First of all - a well written and thought out comment deserves acknowledgement and a focused, detailed response.
Many of us have had teachers who changed our weltanschauung. It could be that you are that person to others - and for that you get nothing but respect. There are a handful of teachers on my journey that definitely impacted the preparation, direction and outcome of the adventure so far! They had the similar qualities you defined - capability, determination, passion for their subjects - and it rubbed off on me. In many ways it made me challenge my own ways of thinking - which before snowflake culture took over - was considered a good thing.
I agree with you that sometimes teachers are one of the best parts of society. They are now, unfortunately, being asked to play more and more a substitute parenting role. For those who don't not know, there is a series of offerings these days called "Adulting Classes". Students are showing up to university so woefully underprepared and ready to survive, that they need to be taught "how to live" before they can be taught "how or what to think" and thrive.
I would wonder, however, how many of your colleagues approach their profession with the same level of dedication, professionalism and competence you describe?My experience, again, is that this is an individual quality - and not necessarily something that is learned. What I have seen in higher education would put you as an exception and not the rule. And if they do have these qualities, how does the union block them from innovating and improving student results?
Thomas Sowell has a lot to say on this theme. I highly encourage you to read more on his studies and findings in looking into the subject. This is only one of his books on it - there are others.
Case in point, read in the Thomas Sowell books about Charter Schools in high poverty areas. The students coming from the same environments score astronomically higher on testing, get into better schools, and thus become better contributing members of society. It has little or nothing to do with their skin color or family situation. It has to do the students attitude and self-belief, and with teachers who are motivated (and rewarded) to make the students into the best they can be. It simply works. That is why the teacher's unions are fighting it. Competition will expose the failure to deliver results - in apple-to-apple comparisons.
The teacher unions are blocking competition, diversity of thought, innovation, and thus preparation and development of their customers (there students). They are supporting the teaching of revisionist (false) history and false biology and false _______ (insert snowflake topic here). That's not OK and needs to stop. It's one thing to say, here are 2 opinions on the topic, here is the data to support these positions, you decide. It's another to force feed snowflake content down the throats of students who never asked for it.
There is a beautiful saying on this theme: "A Baccalaureate student tells you how they feel about it. The Master's student says "here is the data" to support my position.
The fact that the teacher's unions are becoming so vocal - only confirms how much of the problem they are for the rest of us. Making demands? Really. I think the best response for those demands is G.T.F.O. - and we will find someone or some group that wants to help students.
To your point, in the end, it is the relationship between the teacher and student that makes the magic happen. The point here is to give the teachers every opportunity and tool they need to do that better... something that the teacher's unions are NOT doing.
Schools are where we need to make some big pushes. Some of the top institutions in the world right now (looking at you, UChicago) have openly condemned other big name schools for embracing pampering of students and cancel culture over the genuine pursuit of knowledge and learning. Schools are becoming indoctrination camps and we need to make advances there.
Sounds like communism to me.
End the teacher's unions.
end the department of education.
The commies have indeed infiltrated the teacher's unions. Infiltration unions is what they do.
https://ia802306.us.archive.org/4/items/CommunistInfiltrationInTheUnitedStatesItsNatureAndHowToCombatIt/CIUS2d_text.pdf
Communist Infiltration in the United States, Its Nature, and How to Combat It
Incredible link. Should be it's own post and required reading for every Patriot on this site.
We are witnessing a Communist/Socialist takeover of the United States. Right now. Not some far off future or reality. Today. This text was written 1946 but it might as well had be written yesterday.
Regan?
Not Regan. Pretty sure that was Reagan! 😁
Yes, Regan. When the union thinks it's more powerful than the President - the President needs to help them with that understanding.
Not Regan. Pretty sure that was Reagan!😁
Autocorrect!
FAA/air controllers are federal employees. The only major group of teachers who work for the federal government are on military bases (DODEA). Public school teachers are municipal employees (there are some state employed teachers, mostly for correctional facilities or special programs).
If you don't like what your public schools are doing, look at your local and state school boards first. Federal involvement is a distant third.
Teacher unions are also the enemies of the people.
You forgot school closures through end of the year and continued salary payments so they can riot at local metros until after the election.
It's hard to keep track of it all. Thanks for chiming in!
Time to defund and disband the Federal Teachers Union. This is the new educayshun system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM&feature=youtu.be
I graduated from a MCNC Charter High school and it was academically light years ahead almost every other school in my county.
You want them ALL to run for congress?
Bust up the teachers union. You don't teach, you don't get paid and likely to be fired, be it strike or not. They are all replaceable. School choice should've been an option years ago.
How about pay based on performance and results? Scary concept...
Nope that's a racism right there!
If police unions are bad and have to go, then so are other unions...unions defend the worst of the worst because they are paid with employees’ salaries.
I had this discussion in a previous life. I wanted to stop paying the "union dues", because: (a) It was a lot of money that I saw no benefit in paying; and (2) It was never presented as "an option" - it was "required". It would have been easier to negotiate with the Russian Mafia.
There are some pros and they can protect against abusive businesses, but on the whole they do more harm than good. It also turns people into groups. In Philly, buildings are fine until something happens that angers the union - then, all of a sudden, workers get the giant blow up rat and ‘mold’ signs out...mold only seems to be an issue for projects that piss the union off.
Groups may work well with teachers. What is clearly NOT working is mob boss Teacher Union leadership.
I'm a teacher. We aren't the enemy of conservatives. We need to focus on real threats my friends, not teachers.
Every single public school teacher? Maybe not. The 10,000 + of NJEA members who were given paid time off if they attended the pussy hat rally in D.C.? Most definitely enemies of conservatism, and tools of the dem party.
You will love Thomas Sowell's take on this.
Taught for 4 years as a public school teacher. Left because of all of the bullshit. Was told I couldn’t give a kid who sat in class and did literally nothing a zero for a daily grade because it was “too mean.” And my class was easy.
hmm
No competition+Zero Accountability+Absolute Power=Democrat Unions
And anyone who tells you different is a lying dog-faced pony soldier.
Look Fat, Corn Pop was a teacher...
Guys, it’s for the children! 🙄
What is the Regan Treatment??
President Reagan fired the air traffic controllers who refused to come back from a strike.
Ok. Definitely time for the Reagan Treatment
Thomas Jefferson Education -- https://tjed.org/
Thomas Jefferson Education, also known as "TJEd" or "Leadership Education" is a philosophy and methodology of education which is popular among some alternative educators, including private schools, charter schools and homeschoolers. It is based on the Seven Keys of Great Teaching and the Phases of Learning.
Thanks for sharing - the openness to new ideas is where good things happen.
Unions can monopolize. Unions can stifle competition. Unions can get too powerful. Some unions need to be broken up.
No Student Left Informed.
They need the Pinochet treatment !
I say put Thomas Sowell in charge of the reforms.
Fire them all
If we want to be fair, we could say - make a test - and see if they pass! That would be interesting...
Also, no teaching and no wage losses
Public schools sound irrelevant.
You forgot "no reopening, no holding back our paychecks"
I cant believe anyone wouldnt be for a private schooling. Choosing a school will create different types of schools. More interested in STEM go to this school more interested im business go to that school.
Unions are a threat to the childrens education.
This is the expected result when more people figured out their Rockefeller foundation/marxist brainwashing institutions. Do what all modern leftist do.... blame others, hold hostages, call names, and bitch n moan
We have been living with, no, tolerating, this mindset for 60 years. Started with the New York City teachers union and spread like wild.
How about no PUBLIC teachers. Only private. How many wont get hired. Most.
I do believe that there are a lot of GOOD teachers - who are caught in the circles of Dante's Inferno - sometimes called the Teacher's Union. Transformation or disruption of the Teacher's Union might be as easy as get all the teachers at a certain level to vote for who THEY want to lead them... not the local mob boss.
I agree 100%! I would back 'the Reagan treatment' fully.
Kick these losers the fuck out of the system
Uhhhhh, I was told that the covid issue and wearing a mask has nothing to do with politics, dooyyyyy HONK