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vote_for_MAGA_2020 16 points ago +21 / -5

Yes let’s look at his actions.

He supports UBI, universal healthcare, said he would vote for Bernie the commie and Tulsi (who isn't much better than a communist). I agree, let’s look at his actions. He won’t vote for Trump and will vote for a bunch of democrats in local Texas elections.

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purple_nitrile -5 points ago +5 / -10

He supports UBI

I am down for UBI myself. Nothing wrong with it imo. But for it to work, we remove all funding for social securities and unemployment, schooling, etc and we put it into the UBI. Let the people decide where they want to invest their UBI in. I think my method is too crazy and not many would like it, but hey, I'm not running for president anyway.

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hoffytown 5 points ago +5 / -0

It doesn't work. There is a huge class of people that would just not work, view the results when a county in canada gave UBI a try. Disastrous. Stupid idea that won't work. Worse than social security.

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purple_nitrile -2 points ago +1 / -3

when a county in canada gave UBI a try

The way they did UBI was shit. They had in mind that everyone can have social benefits and eat their cake too. There is no incentive.

My idea of UBI would remove funding from schools, social securities, welfare, medicare, etc. All those government agencies which handle that crap would be gone and would overall save the country money. Not to mention since there is a lot of redundancy in government, giving it to the people would be more efficient. Now that everyone is entitled to this money, you can either spend it on your own welfare, or you can use it to buy food or a place to stay. You have to choose which benefits you think are more important, and then spend it accordingly.

Now you say, "how come I can't get all the benefits?"

You can, you just get a job. lol.

It's probably a bad approach and I would need to see what other problems it would come across against, but it would separate the stupid people from the smart people on how they would invest their UBI. But hey, only the strong/smart would survive, and the stupid who haven't invested in their own health probably won't make it.

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hoffytown 1 point ago +1 / -0

Go try it in a county in wyoming or something, once you've destroyed the productivity of the community, hopefully you'll wake up.

The idiots (you) who go all in on UBI have absolutely no standing to completely redo our system with something that has only failed each and every time they've tried it on a small scale.

Go back to reddit fag

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purple_nitrile 0 points ago +1 / -1

Like I said in other comments. If they are going to live comfortably at home, then they won't be able to afford schooling, medicare, etc if UBI was used the way I proposed. These neets would be effectively removed from the social safety net since they would rather spend their UBI on on food and housing instead.

It's not like they would have contribute to society in the first place. Let them stay in their cages, while the strong will thrive and remain a productive part of society.

This is why I love Trump. He's basically wants what I want: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2020-07-23/trump-says-parents-should-get-funding-if-public-schools-are-closed-video

Give the funding to the parents instead of school. Parents can use it to feed themselves, but the smart ones know to invest it into the school of their choosing. A small part of the UBI that I dream of.

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