The sound https://youtu.be/qFJO2L_kJr4?t=11
The report https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/breaking-update-austin-police-release-driver-shot-killed-antifa-protester-garrett-foster-saturday-night-protest/
Don't know why they would lie, but they are lying. Also, GWP has a still from a vid in the article, does anyone have that vid? How the hell is not out there viral?
EDIT: Wanted to add, the lack of video on this might mean that Garrett DID fire first, if I was an Antifa terrorist like the ones surrounding that car, and had video of that, I probably would delete it instead of trying to upload it, right?
Honestly despite being told those first 5 weren’t AK shots, they damn sure sound like it. I had to walk back my earlier assertion that those were definitely 7.62x39mm shots. Now I’m no weapons expert but I have an SKS and am very, very familiar with the sound of those rounds being fired. It’s a distinct sound and hard but not impossible to mistake.
I did hear a single shot fired after the three we all assume was return fire. The car was taken as evidence so I suspect it was shot. Maybe the driver had a big brass pair and grabbed the muzzle of the AK, pointed it forward at the interior of the car and returned fire, then the last single shot (it blends in with the three round salvo) was the idiot protestor that shot at the car popping a round off.
Can’t really tell and with so many phones there recording someone is hiding something. No way a center of attention like that didn’t have 100 cameras on it.
Right? How many people are going to these rallies STRICTLY for the purpose of getting the next viral vid for their channel or whatever? I want the vid that still was taking from. I also want to know how those vids are being suppressed so quick.
On that 3rd shot, listen to it again, it sounds to me like another rifle, further off than the first two guns. My experience with gun noises comes from the range I go to, indoor, lot of rifle traffic in there, and hunting. Those first 5 shots were a rifle, period.
Yeah and I agree with the last muffled shot that blended in with the three rounds. Sounds like it’s further away like way down the road. I still think the first 5 sound like a rifle too; not just a rifle but that AK. I have a couple rifles myself but like I said I’m no expert. I just know that distinct AK/SKS sound and what I heard is pretty spot on.
This is really bad - we had someone essentially try to intimidate with a firearm and not just a handgun - a fucking AK, shoot at an innocent civilian, and then when the civilian shot back another protestor tried to kill them again from range.
This is literally a powder keg waiting to blow.
My first thought on hearing it (and I'm no expert, either) was that the first shots didn't seem like A. a handgun and B. a handgun inside a car. But is it possible the second 3 shots sound different because the person recording had moved a little further away and had the camera/phone in a different position? I definitely think the first shots came from a rifle, but trying to play devil's advocate instead of leaping to conclusions.
While the position of the microphone certainly changed, it did not change in a way that near perfectly created distinct AK reports, and then distinct small caliber handgun reports.
The microphone also did not suddenly move 50 yards away, like I saw some other shill suggesting yesterday. The guy recording ran 5 steps away over the course of a brief moment, and hid behind a piece of structure. Just enough time for the patriot in the car to draw his handgun to defend himself against the commie firing the AK at him.
The mic position change could have resulted in less muffled handgun reports initially, then more muffled handgun reports afterwards, but that is not what we are hearing. In fact the handgun reports were not even all that muffled. All reports were captured quite clearly.
Rifle fire and handgun fire are so different sounding and we have the telltale signature of both here, clearly delineated. This is without question an incident where the rifle fired first.
I'll eat my hat if conclusive evidence to the contrary emerges.
Add that to the general consensus of the majority of comments here and other places, where people are known to have experience with firearms, all tend to agree, with few dissenting opinions. Add THAT to the interview they found of Garrett talking like he was carrying with the intent to use. Boy was itching for someone to give him a reason.
All very true. What I find remarkable is that these "protestors" have no idea what it is they are actually mad at. They are all suffering in some way (as we all are) but they can't see that the actual enemy is the global elite and their regressive policies designed to control us by nullifying our God given rights.
They've had their money taken away with regressive tax policy. They've had their jobs taken away with regressive immigration policy. They've had their fun taken away with regressive virus safety polices. They have no idea who's boot is on their necks, but they know they are angry about it.
So... they decide to take their anger out on a random car and driver who's progress they are purposefully impeding.
Great analysis, thanks. As I said, the very first time I saw it I thought, "That's doesn't sound like a handgun being fired inside a car."
Gee, surrounded by tall concrete buildings you would be shocked to hear an echo?
It’s weird that you’re so passionately stomping around in these threads about this particular subject acting like a child
It's weird that you are trying to discredit facts to instead imply there needs to be shots fired to justify shooting someone aiming a fucking rifle at your face.
It’s weird that you would read so much into that without actually looking at all of the comments I’ve made on the subject
Gentlemen, gentlemen! Surely there must be some common ground!
You are the one that doesn't have 40+ years of recording experience in radio and television that is convinced the police are lying to cover a justified shooting to make it.. justified.
Why do you think I am arguing otherwise? There is no reason to claim A1C Fatboy needed to fire to justify the shooting - so what purpose would be served to cover up him doing so?
Those tall concrete buildings would have had to have been MILES away for the echo to be that slow, echoes don't change cadence.
EDIT: Did the math, the buildings would've had to have been at a distance of 5,645 feet.
https://thedonald.win/p/GbfYRV9Y/x/c/141rVMJQfr
I believe that you will be vindicated.
Supposedly the driver had a tokarev, so any sound analysis goes to shit when that comes into play but I've only heard anecdotal evidence about that so far, nothing official.
Austin PD has a massive surveillance system named HALO. I saw it with my own eyes 6-7 years ago, and have no doubt it has only grown larger.
If it happens Downtown, APD have it on video.
I can confirm. Never got to see the operation side but had big brother watching my back working downtown.
$5 dynamic microphones from eBay are shitty.
I think you are spot on.
I also heard that 9th shot
Isn't there any other footage of this? I mean fuck, almost every one of these clowns has a phone.
Might speak to the event not supporting the narrative. If I was one of them and I had footage that showed Garrett firing first I'd probably delete it.
Anyone know what is being said starting at 0:11 in the linked video? It starts off as "Guys, everybody ..." but I can't make out the rest of it. Whatever he says, it coincides with everybody rushing the car, so it seems like he is encouraging them. And it also sounds a little similar to the "Everybody back up" voice, could be the same person.
That area echoes verrrrry loud. Not saying the last one is an echo but it could be.
I'm just gonna go ahead and paste a comment that I just made on that.
What? Miles away? That's not how echoes work.
Exactly his point. The echo theory is stupid, we're talking about buildings less than 100 feet away from each other.
Sound travels at roughly 1000 feet per second. The echo in a street like this between buildings is too rapid to be considered an echo. You wouldn't call an "B-Bang" an echo, but you would if it were a "BANG-Bang-bang".
If this happened a block away, that complicates the acoustics a bit. But this video captured the incident and sound in direct proximity. For the same reason the rifle report did not echo, neither did the handgun.
Like everyone else here who knows what guns sound like, rifle fired 5 rounds, handgun fired 3 rounds, separate handgun fired one round.
Police report largely corroborates this except they are omitting the rifle discharge for some reason. Perhaps to not piss on the dead kid's funeral too hard, at least not right away. Dead kid didn't get to deliver his statement to the police so they're playing it safe in the media for now. The full evidence will come out sometime soon.
There are 5 seconds between the first 5 shots, and then 3 shots. 5 seconds. Sound travels at about 1129 FPS, that times 5 is 5645 ft. Or roughly a mile. Were those buildings a mile away?