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victorywin 51 points ago +52 / -1

dr zelenko came up with HCQ+Zinc first concurrently with the french virolgist

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NvJohansson 26 points ago +26 / -0

And what does Didier Raoult know about HCQ compared to the anchors at CNN and MSNBC saying it's dangerous? He's only the number one rated virologist on the planet... these fucktard should all be arrested for causing unnecessary deaths.

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victorywin 8 points ago +9 / -1

how would you feel if you find out they took HCQ as prophylactic?

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lolpaladins 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yes, but surely they are only taking it just in case they need to travel without notice to a country with high incidence of malaria infestation and it has absolutely nothing to do with Covid...

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victorywin 2 points ago +3 / -1

I meant CNN and MSNBC people. the reporters they sent to protests for example?

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Nalgahyde 13 points ago +13 / -0

He also added Azithromycin in order to quell any secondary infections so your body can fight the Wuhan instead of the other junk. He talked about it during his interview with Rudy Giuliani.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Dr Z did indeed say that and think that at the time, but later he learned better. French Dr proved that combination was antiviral in vitro. Pretty important!

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 5 points ago +5 / -0

No. Dr Z added zinc. French Dr discovered HCQ + azithromycin is anti-viral against CCPvirus in vitro.

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victorywin 1 point ago +2 / -1

thanks!

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are very welcome! Great username btw. We need to be helping one another keep up with all relevant facts. So much is happening so fast and when we ever get a chance to dispense some facts to non Trump supporters, it's a fleeting moment and we never get a second chance.

I do maintain that 40+ Governors mass murdering over 135,000 of us is the biggest issue now, because they're still trying to kill as many of us as possible. You're obviously familiar with Dr Z, so let's compare notes:

his first 699 patients studied, nobody died. After that he changed his protocol to nobody got more than 400 mg HCQ per day, no matter how sick. That's the dosage John Hopkins declared safe for long term use many years ago. In his first 699 the worst got up to 800 mg, so another pill or two per day but only the first 2 days. Nobody got medicine for more than 5 days.

His next 751 patients studied (1450 total) 2 died, more were admitted to the hospital and more were put on a ventilator. We can't know if these individuals would have done any better with more HCQ their first two days. I haven't seen what I consider to be the most relevant info for those who are more severely affected: how long before medication, how sick, what comorbidities? (Age is a comorbidity)

Anyway this showed to be a 97.4% reduction in death as compared to the National average at the time. These results were duplicated in Brazil, completely without his help. They just followed his protocol. This is significant because science is repeatable, among other things.

The study in Brazil that has now been retracted gave 2400 mg HCQ per day. 2000 mg is a fatal dose! Nothing about that was science, medical care, or ethical. Likewise the VA study gave a toxic dose and was discontinued when toxicity was discovered. Papers about that study have also been retracted.

Any info you have that disagrees with anything I've said here, please do let me know! We want to give the best info possible, when we get that rare chance.

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victorywin 0 points ago +1 / -1

great summary. I didn't know the exact numbers. In his latest letter to POTUS, Zelenko wrote "thousands" because the other doctors are following it and giveing him feedback. check his twitter. the 'america's frontline doctors' pay him respect with a video.

this interview is great. FDA, for the first time in history, recommended not to use an approved drug off-label. the lamestream media uses the term "off-label" to scare people, but the drugs are used off-label all the time. it's the doctor's choice.

there is no reason for governors and whoever controls the pharmacies to ban a drug, because it's prescription only.

I'm very upset that we could've saved 70-90% of the people, if the doctors had the choice. Trump mentioned the drug on March 19.

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HocusLocus 3 points ago +4 / -1

Yes but Raoult does not mention ZINC in his press and interviews even though I know his institute uses it. In this he has been as much a part of the problem as the solution. If I ever see him I will write ZINC on a rubber glove and slap his face with it.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you sure French Dr even uses zinc? I haven't seen any studies showing that. Add zinc and it further reduces deaths by 50%.

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victorywin 1 point ago +2 / -1

thanks for the distinction