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PropagandaWizard1984 24 points ago +25 / -1

Animals live with honor among nature. Never taking more then they need. You are correct.

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AOCs_tits 15 points ago +15 / -0

I went on a trail run the other day and some jack hole had SPRAYPAINTED A TREE with BLM. Racist pine trees, I guess. Their wood was used to make the floorboards of small-town Jim Crow era courthouses.

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HockeyMom4Trump 7 points ago +7 / -0

I have seen that in Minneapolis, too. So much for their environmentalism.

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TheThreeSeashells 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same goes for the pro-shutdown crowd which are primarily Leftist "environmentalists." We can't go into the vet with our pet in our area, so seeing that it's in the 90s, everyone is just sitting in their car, sometimes for almost an hour, with their cars running with the AC on. Same thing for doctor appointments. They're only allowing one person in, so anyone else that goes with them sits in the parking lot waiting with the car running.

I've seen this happening a lot more around supermarkets and other stores since people don't want to deal with the mask crap. These morons are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites.

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HockeyMom4Trump 5 points ago +5 / -0

Good point. We had the same experience at our vet. Everyone was sitting in the car with the engines idling...

I also see a ton of disposable masks littering parking lots. Everyone was so worried about banning plastic bags and straws, but I can't wait until a dolphin shows up with a mask on.

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PropagandaWizard1984 5 points ago +5 / -0

This makes me so angry words do not exist to convey the emotions! Tree lives matter!!!!

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Thrasymachus 15 points ago +16 / -1

Don't fall into the Rousseau trap. "Nature" is a never-ending battle for survival with no rules except the framework of physics, and has been since the first cells formed.

It is our knowledge, and the control over our environment this knowledge, bestows that has allowed us to create a system that attempts, to the best of our ability--to be "fair" in a way that natural law precludes. This endeavor has been going on for thousands of years, and we're yet to perfect it.

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b9k9 4 points ago +5 / -1

Really nice post. Let me ask you this: with potential pop overshoot, resource constraints and env degradation, dont the uniparty actions begin to make sense?

I mean why not go hog while attemping to enslave humanity to enable personal material surplus?

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RuleoVicus 5 points ago +5 / -0

Resources are constrained through the limits of technology.

The concept of "non-renewable" vs "renewable" is a farce.

EVERYTHING, is renewable. We have as much aluminum, for example, today than we did 2,000 years ago and will continue to have until we have sufficiently advanced technology to alter elements economically- such as fusion of a hydrogen proton to say, cobalt, to create nickle.

In addition, much to the chagrin of Paul Ehrlich, the "population bomb" never went off, even after 5 fucking decades. Eight billion humans can comfortably live in Texas. So that's also not an issue*.

And, even more so, the Homo Sapiens saved Earth:

https://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2013/Deserts-greening-from-rising-CO2

https://phys.org/news/2016-04-co2-fertilization-greening-earth.html

What am I getting at with this? During the Last Glacial Maximum CO2 levels were 170ppm. C3 plants (80% of vegetation) carbon starvation occurs at 150ppm. We're unlocking Life.

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RuleoVicus 2 points ago +2 / -0

*Welllll, I spoke to quickly on this. And do need to address. There's one problem of a massive population.

Heat.

A trillion humans generate a LOT of heat. As long as that can be adequately addressed, we're good.

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Thrasymachus 1 point ago +2 / -1

I've always been largely dismissive of classical Malthusian concerns based on the simple fact that population growth rates have almost universally flattened out considerably as education and standard of living increased. If we didn't artificially subsidize population growth in undeveloped (or incapable-of-development, at least for now) areas, those areas would cease their population growth as well. If there's a Malthusian crisis brewing, it is of the globalists own creation, rending any notion of a moral high ground in "saving" humanity (by mongrelizing all races into a subservient class under a "benevolent" aristocratic leadership caste) moot. Technology has triumphed for thousands of years in exerting human control over an unpredictable environment, and I have no doubt that we can and will continue to overcome any challenges (including demographic) in the future.

The Georgia Guidestone perspective is a fearful, neurotic, and ultimately, genocidal outlook.

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PropagandaWizard1984 1 point ago +2 / -1

You are reading too much into it. Nature is indeed a never ending battle but there is honor in that battle. Homeostasis is a natural law of all ordered systems. Failure to obey this law results in the destruction of the system. Simple as that. Antifa have upset the homeostasis of America, they will thus be purged so the balance can return.

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RuleoVicus 3 points ago +4 / -1

I absolutely adhere to the Gaia Hypothesis.

Mercury? Dead. Venus? Dead. Mars? Dead.

There's only one living & breathing planet.

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PropagandaWizard1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

Indeed. The Earth abides!

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Thrasymachus 3 points ago +4 / -1

there is honor in that battle

Anthropomorphizing.

Homeostasis is a natural law of all ordered systems.

An emergent property, not a priori.

I mean, I don't think we actually disagree; everyone here thinks the rioters are acting far (far, far) below the standards of civilized behavior we set for our society as a whole (and moreover indicative of broader problems with societal subcultures that tenuously coexist within the larger whole where these "values"--and much worse--are the norm).

On with the purging already!

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PropagandaWizard1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Indeed.

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DeathBattleFan123 11 points ago +11 / -0

Animals take everything they can until something stops them. Just like these rioters.

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PropagandaWizard1984 9 points ago +11 / -2

Not really. From ants to bears animals eat what they need to survive. Maybe you could say that about locust and a few outliers. There is a word called "homeostasis" that nature adheres to or eventually auto-corrects to. Nature has balance.

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DeathBattleFan123 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's the new-age Gaia theory stuff you're talking about there. In conventional terms, homeostasis refers to an individual organism's ability to maintain an optimal internal balance of temperature, fluids, etc, not an ecosystem's ability to maintain some sort of balance.

No, the only thing limiting the spread of any life form is the presence of predators and a lack of resources. With limitless resources and no predators, life spreads indefinitely.

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PropagandaWizard1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hey my dude you just proved my point, I am not talking about Gaia. I am talking about balance, equilibrium.

Before humans upset the balance the predators and resources all balanced each other. When one variable became out of whack the system corrected. It isn't fucking meta physics, it's a simple math equation. Whales eat too many fish, less whales are made. Wolves eat too many deer and they start killing each other for territory and resources, hence less wolves. It all balances out, equilibrium. Real simple logic.

My point is also born out by the fact that the human population is predicted to peak out at 9-10 billion at most. We won't be able to grow past that on earth. Not in 100 years, not in 1,000 years.

Even this whole bullshit Clown World will eventually seek a state of equilibrium because it can not grow forever. The USSR did this. It had to auto correct to a more natural state. The CCP will also go extinct and allow China to reach a more natural equilibrium, or homeostasis. All things must be in balance, the more out of balance they become the stronger forces attempt to pull it back to center, AKA equilibrium.