And then an enemy country looks at it and say "it's free real estate". So you gotta have armed forces. So you gotta have some discipline and tough jobs. But there are no one (maybe the land whale lesbians on their macho quest) willing to go for it and sacrifice themselves for a tasteless society of Greendale Human Beings.
They forget that every week on Star Trek was an aggressive race based nation state threatening war, technology going haywire, malevolent evil space entity or demonic possession, or even dystopian alternate reality.
On paper, it is just perfect. It doesn't take humankind, and how people react. The laws of unintendended consequences. If only there were a way to predict them. Oh wait! There is! It's called history.
Just so you know, the utopianism of Star Trek was a mere plot device. Gene Roddenberry was smart enough to realize that aliens were more interesting in a space show than people, but also thought that his viewers were intelligent enough to wonder why they rarely had problems on Earth or within the crew.
So, Starfleet was in effect made the perfect organization with no needs, staffed with charismatic but unrealistically skilled individuals, doing so well within their own society that all they had left to do was fix everyone else's problems.
He even was involved in the creation of the Borg as a nod to how Communism actually worked, by the way.
Also, they've ret-conned it completely, and now Earth is full of poverty, drug use, and crime again. So, guess it doesn't even work long term in a lefty's fantasy...
Yeah, that was all post Roddenberry for the most part.
To see his deep dives into imagined futures, you really shouldn't look to Star Trek: he pitched that vision as Wagon Train of the stars. And it was, until his death, even a bit beyond...
sounds like star trek on paper, but feels like prison in reality.
And then an enemy country looks at it and say "it's free real estate". So you gotta have armed forces. So you gotta have some discipline and tough jobs. But there are no one (maybe the land whale lesbians on their macho quest) willing to go for it and sacrifice themselves for a tasteless society of Greendale Human Beings.
They forget that every week on Star Trek was an aggressive race based nation state threatening war, technology going haywire, malevolent evil space entity or demonic possession, or even dystopian alternate reality.
The worst vision of the future ever.
On paper, it is just perfect. It doesn't take humankind, and how people react. The laws of unintendended consequences. If only there were a way to predict them. Oh wait! There is! It's called history.
Just so you know, the utopianism of Star Trek was a mere plot device. Gene Roddenberry was smart enough to realize that aliens were more interesting in a space show than people, but also thought that his viewers were intelligent enough to wonder why they rarely had problems on Earth or within the crew.
So, Starfleet was in effect made the perfect organization with no needs, staffed with charismatic but unrealistically skilled individuals, doing so well within their own society that all they had left to do was fix everyone else's problems.
He even was involved in the creation of the Borg as a nod to how Communism actually worked, by the way.
Also, they've ret-conned it completely, and now Earth is full of poverty, drug use, and crime again. So, guess it doesn't even work long term in a lefty's fantasy...
Yeah, that was all post Roddenberry for the most part.
To see his deep dives into imagined futures, you really shouldn't look to Star Trek: he pitched that vision as Wagon Train of the stars. And it was, until his death, even a bit beyond...
Then the Maquis showed up.
As long as they murder everyone this Utopia is possible.