I've started to just refer to them as "social media publishers". The more we repeat that instead of platforms, the more it will stick into people's vocabulary.
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Imagine if Ma Bell didn’t like the fact that you were trying to call your conservative friends. So no matter what number you dialed, it always connected you to people who have “more acceptable” political views.
There's no desire to do anything about this within the halls of the house & congress. The DNC and GOP globalists hate American citizens and their so-called "freedom of speech." They want to disassemble America's constitution and bill of rights and sell us off to the lowest bidder (or just give it away). All of them need to be hung for treason on public TV on K Street in Washington DC.
This statement is a great first step, but we need to find some way to help. Is there any way we can find someone to help fund lawsuits against these companies? I wouldn't really know where to start. Any pedes have connections to wealthy conservatives?
I agree. Talk is cheap, what can we DO?
Trump can only do so much. Any lawyers here? This may be a pay day. If we get a couple thousand people to donate a few bucks each we can get a real case started. Anyone can sue for breach of laws.
Trump needs to create a department in his campaign staff that organizes conservatives for actions like this. Not just "send some donations" or "get out and vote", but give us all something to do. Tell us to call certain people and ask for action on a subject. Ask for lawyers to collaborate on class action suits. Lawfare is effective. Hell, even if you ask for money, tell us "We're raising money to buy advertising time on a major TV channel to play the censored HCQ doctors video".
You would see a massive upswell of support for these agendas. We would only trust Trump though, too many other snake oil salesmen or grifters waiting to seize patriot's money for their own causes.
If I went back in time to myself 6 years ago and told my past self that someday I would not trust any public figure except Donald Trump, and that I would gladly take a bullet for him, I would have laughed myself right onto the floor and never believed it. God bless this timeline.
I'm going to work on something to at least get us started. I'm going to research some of this to get those people in a spreadsheet or something. One of my companies is a financial services company, so I'll ask my business partners about how to set up a fund we can pay into to start funding shit like this.
Disgorge the companies. Our government needs to respond to the Miller Act Notice submitted by Leader Technologies under Michael McKibben, the creators of the technologies that drive scalable social media.
For a brief overview:
"The Truth About Facebook" by The Truth Factory on YouTube.
aim4truth.org
However many people are clamoring for the opposite. The EO is attempting to regulate this in the opposite direction too; it even uses the word "platform" to describe social media.
This failure to define the service for what it is will continue to make this issue muddy and ultimately a mess.
Read the user agreement on each of the services in question. They all explicitly stipulate that user submitted content is subject to censorship. And as we can observe, this is not just written policy, it is put into practice.
A large part of the problem is that so few actually read the fine print before agreeing to use the service, and assumed they were using some free speech platform. They never were, and it is their own fault for not understanding the agreement.
And this will always be the case for these companies. You can't force them to change their ways by government edict. You can try, but you end up with an entirely unnatural situation where they are still biased, but play cat and mouse just enough to avoid regulatory scrutiny.
Many people think this is the answer. Seems unlikely to work out, and just supports the monopoly these companies already enjoy, by supporting the erroneous conclusion that they are the new "town halls". This flawed interpretation traps the users in a service that treats them poorly.
I'd suggest the EO should have aimed for the reverse: classify these services as publishers, once and for all, since that is what they truly are. Lift the veil, expose the truth: these services are abusing the users and their content.
As publishers, the services can be held liable for damages for problematic content. We stop pretending user submitted content on the service is free speech. This allows for competition in this market, where consumers can choose to support the publisher that has the most value. The one that treats them fairly. The one that is not a propaganda tool for globalists.
This is Obozo's legacy. Big tech has grown into a cartel and seized control over the internet during 8 years of Obozo, partly because of his support, partly because of the financial crisis which smashed the traditional industries and gave them a unique opportunity.
Big tech is stepping up for each measure Trump crushes the main stream outlets. President Trump commands the narrative with an open line of communication. This has to piss them of that they have become the go around and voice for everything they hate. Desperately trying to stop the pre- election Trump train.
On Monday, the Department of Commerce, as directed by President Donald J. Trump’s Executive Order on Preventing Online Censorship, filed a petition to clarify the scope of Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act. The petition requests that the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) clarify that Section 230 does not permit social media companies that alter or editorialize users’ speech to escape civil liability. The petition also requests that the FCC clarify when an online platform curates content in “good faith,” and requests transparency requirements on their moderation practices, similar to requirements imposed on broadband service providers under Title I of the Communications Act. President Trump will continue to fight back against unfair, un-American, and politically biased censorship of Americans online.
I for one don't know. It's really a slam dunk q/a: the regulations already say that, he's just asking them to officially confirm that--which is all calling them out--though a lot of commissions require that a complaint be filed--they don't look for violations. It would be great if this was applied retroactively, as it should be, so Twit and YT could be sued into extinction.
THERE CAN BE NO WAITING - The FCC needs to get it one today, or yesterday. Go take a look at what the TECH GIANTS have done to the Frontline Doctors trying to discuss Media Misinformation on Treating Coronavirus.
Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and Google , and now VIMEO have censored the doctors after they promoted hydroxychloroquine as a life-saving medication in treating the coronavirus.
BESIDES THAT we need a statement from General Milley telling us how he plans to defend us if, in a time of National Emergency, the "Tech Giants" shut down American citizens access to the internet and cell phones.
REMEMBER OBAMA, THAT TREASONOUS COWARD GAVE AWAY OUR INTERNET. So, knowing that, does the wishy-washy Milley have a plan or is he complicit ?????
They also got to their web hosting provider who then shut down their website. Also the CDC website has stripped all Info on covid with hydroxy chloroquine
The full weight of the federal government can change their policies TODAY and enforcement still likely wouldn't happen before election. These Silicon Valley fucks will DELAY, DELAY, DELAY any lawsuits on the off chance Biden "wins" so that they can reverse this and continue as usual. In the process they will make sure to burn their own systems down (read: purge more people) as revenge.
Possibly. GEOTUS just lobbed the ball straight into Ajit Pai's court, and that man is a level 100 troll. So he can get it done. Then comes enforcement. And that will all depend on how much rot he has within his organization in the form of covert DSA members and globohomo footsoldiers.
It is cutting it close. We will see what Ajit can do.
It all depends on where Pai and the Republican Commissioners are angling to get their next gig. Back in the day, Commissioners' next gig would be a DC law firm specializing in FCC issues, so they could majorly cash out. Nowadays, they're going to the private sector to cash out. The FCC right now is doing all it can to suck Google/Facebook dick in a number of proceedings, where they're obviously spiking the ball - and this is going on in proceedings where issues can be resolved with empirical, scientific testing to determine outcomes. Unless DJT actually got on the phone with Pai, O'Rielly and Carr and knows how they're going to vote, this isn't a done deal. Plus, there's shitloads of career employees there, and they're all unionized Democrats.
Is the FCC corrupt as hell like we found out (for sure lol) the CIA and FBI is?
I still just see civil war as the enevitable outcome. When this happens China will fill the power vacuum and we are The People's Republic of the United States of China.
Well I am sure there are swamp creatures but we got some fantastic people in the higher ups that make the decisions who are based as ever. Like Ajit Pai, the chairman of the FCC. Also Brendan Carr seems pretty based too, hes a commissioner of the FCC .
lol I still remember all the melting down over Pai and net neutrality.
And then all that happened to internet services were improvements and all the people reeeing about it have completely forgot about it because social media sites stopping telling them to care.
You don´t think this scenario has been already game played? The west had to be extremely careful when the USSR collapsed. The great fear was either a stolen or misfired warhead.
Same is true with where the US is headed. Our neighbors and adversaries surely have contingency plans in the works to avoid antagonizing rogue elements.
Everyone needs to chill out and observe from the sidelines while we clean house.
Is that true though? If Twitter gets rid of trump or trump gets rid of Twitter... Twitter wins the censorship battle. Really you have to keep fighting. Parler isn't ready. It's not nearly as clean (interface and otherwise) as Twitter and I hate Twitter.
I apologize I don't have a source on this, but the scuttlebutt is that Twitter was not doing well before the 2016 election, and that everyone reeeeeeeing on Trump is what caused a surge in their traffic.
With the growing sentiment against Twitter, I think their days are numbered. I see normies all over referring to Twitter as "toxic" because of all the SJWs and cancel culture. Unless Twitter literally reverses course a full 180 degrees to get rid of that, this sentiment will just build and build until people don't think Twitter is fun or cool anymore, and then they'll abandon it for the next most popular platform.
Cultural Marxism is a race to the bottom, a race to who's "most oppressed". It will never get better unless they literally change their entire fundamental worldview. Likely not going to happen. Hundreds of millions of people throughout history have chosen death over changing their worldview. Twitter as a company will "die" as in become irrelevant because the competition is gaining market share.
We're in the midst of Web 3.0. Free speech and/or decentralized and/or self-hosted competition is the next BIG THING. Just like how Web 2.0 led to MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. it's now going back to the consumer having control of their own privacy, not some sketchy data center hosted in the middle of a desert.
All of his post on twitter should just be links to the actual message on Parler. But one draw back of Parler, is you can't view a message unless you create an account.
100%. Not being able to view without an account hampers any scalability to the point of not being serious competition.
Just as with "communities.win" sites each being on a different second level domain hampers our scalability to the point of not being serious competition to reddit.
Tough redpill to swallow but both Parler and TheDonald.win are by definition "controlled opposition". The worst part is it's by CHOICE which means the people running these sites are being "useful idiots".
There are OBVIOUS fixes clear as day and why the people that run these sites won't implement them is INCREDIBLY fishy. They don't compromise the infrastructure of the sites in anyway, as they're both currently centralized and would continue to be centralized.
It would be like your phone company cutting you off because they don't like what you talk about. Or your electricity being cut off because you didn't vote how they wanted you to.
That's an easy win on precedent. What it lacked previously was an inciting case since no one wanted to pull that trigger unless they need to cause in the end it is still 9 people deciding. Look up the old corporate towns, they would buy the land then regulate whatever they wanted because "mai private cumpaknees!" Just cause you bought or built a public square doesn't mean its no longer the public square, the area where the most Americans can hear you in a given area (DOUBLE especially with the lockdowns, they shot themselves in the foot here by trying to force the country to stay closed since now its JUST digitally) IS the public square. The general rule of thumb is "how open are you to the public?" Social Media uses the most lax model possible, literally everyone can come in then they sort it by their standards after. This means they are generally subject to the strictest standards of free speech (as precedent was set in the Shopping Mall preaching cases).
Who can forget?! I heard through the NYT that Ajit Pai was a lieutenant in the FlammenPanzerWerfer (they fired flaming tanks at allied troops) brigade under Hitler. He and the Hell's Angels reportedly instigated Kristallnacht.
I was told by media sources who heard from people that were in the room with people who were familiar with his thinking that he originally converted David Koresh then left him the cult but before that, he was Ted Kaczynski math teacher.
Typical trump, 500 steps ahead. Instead of crying and whining about being censored, as the media will portray him anyway, what he actually did was essentially say:
"OK it's fine that you censored me, that's your right as a PUBLISHER to do so. And you will be treated as such."
This is not 500 steps ahead. This needed to happen sooner. I am happy to see more news of this EO but I am concerned of it turning into nothing or simply being too late.
Because leftist ideas inevitably fail when exposed to honest debate. The left simply can't allow any dissent or critical thinking to be applied to their shit policies. They censor us out of necessity.
clarify that Section 230 does not permit social media companies that alter or editorialize users’ speech to escape civil liability.
No need to alter or edit, they just delete your post and ban your account completely removing your freedom of speech. This should be the main focus imho.
Yeah this petition really needs to be revised and resubmitted to include deletion/banning as unacceptable. Not including that language presents such an obvious loophole.
Awesome. This is some of the best news I’ve heard in a while. And it makes complete sense. Either you’re a “bulletin board” or you’re not. It’s fine if you’re not. But then you don’t get the same protections as if you were.
I fear it's too late. They will ignore and litigate this thru election season hoping they can pull the coup where they won't have to worry about it anymore. The one good thing about this timing is that they have now blatantly spooled up their gaslighting mechanisms and there is clear and present predicate for issuing this order.
They need to speed this up. The election is just about 3 months away and social media companies are really pushing the limits the closer we get. At this point it seems likely they'll stoop to anything to help Biden. I won't be surprised if Trump is just outright banned on several platforms before the election.
Imagine if Verizon could cancel your cell phone plan because they saw your texts messages saying you believe in the biological definition of gender. That’s basically what Twitter and FB are doing.
Noice - This is a follow up to May's strongly worded letter and our realization yesterday or the day before that the 60-90day waiting period was nearly up for the FTC or FCC or do some-thing.
Now we know, one guy did his thing and is passing it to the other guy to do his thing, then once the things have been signed off by all parties, Trump can do his thing.
After the scorched earth policy Twitter,Facebook, and Youtube under took to scrub the video of doctors talking about how to possibly cure the china flu and remove it from the Presidents own Twitter account along with other Conservatives who themselves had there accounts suspended over this Trump decided the paying out of "enough rope to hand yourself" he decided to hang them. Bravo! But have no fear some Obama holdover Federal Judge will try to stop this.
As the act is legislation the president can not outright change it but can have the executive body he does control alter how they few the relative section. Similar to how rhe EPA under Obama vastly grew their regulatory powers without new legislation.
I just wish he did this 3 years ago. Bureaucracy moves slow, and nothing will be done before the election. You can count on google, facebook, et al. to do more and more censorship and info manipulation in the coming months to interfere with the election (and, with respect to the Kung Flu, cause unnecessary death and panic).
I have high hopes but liberal high tech won't change without a massive court fight. Anyone trust Roberts enough not to side with 4 democrat justices to strike down the EO?
We need Elon to focus on replacing Google. He has the brightest minds available and the wealth to do it. Mars is cool, but we need some serious help down here.
Can I ask a question - how are the SHAREHOLDERS and BOARD OK with this CENSORSHIP? The ones that are public companies are turning away MILLIONS of Customers and BILLIONS in business, just to support a Leftist/Marxist agenda - how in God's name are people who are trying to maximize their shareholder value OK with this??!!!
Short and savagely on target!
Big tech are publishers not platforms. Hold them to account instead of giving them free passes.
I've started to just refer to them as "social media publishers". The more we repeat that instead of platforms, the more it will stick into people's vocabulary.
Trump + Kayleigh + Ajit "Reese's Pieces" Pai = Best Combo Ever
Loony Lefties: Wahhhh, Trump is a dictator because he is using an Executive Order to prevent censorship.
Also Loonies: Trump wants to censor minority voices by preventing censorship!
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FTFY
I'm gonna write this on the black board 50 times, or until it sticks.
Imagine if Ma Bell didn’t like the fact that you were trying to call your conservative friends. So no matter what number you dialed, it always connected you to people who have “more acceptable” political views.
Excellent, well-put point. If Bell could be broken apart, Google absolutely could (and should) be.
There's no desire to do anything about this within the halls of the house & congress. The DNC and GOP globalists hate American citizens and their so-called "freedom of speech." They want to disassemble America's constitution and bill of rights and sell us off to the lowest bidder (or just give it away). All of them need to be hung for treason on public TV on K Street in Washington DC.
I just have to say that I love your username.
"Jeb is a mess."
Jeb is a big fat mistake.
Jeb is a dick.
Not no desire. Cruz, Paul, etc... just a small desire. We need more of these guys in Congress.
Their interference is the real Russian interference. Their CEO, Sergey Brin, is a russian immigrant from soviet union.
perfect way of putting it.
This statement is a great first step, but we need to find some way to help. Is there any way we can find someone to help fund lawsuits against these companies? I wouldn't really know where to start. Any pedes have connections to wealthy conservatives?
I agree. Talk is cheap, what can we DO? Trump can only do so much. Any lawyers here? This may be a pay day. If we get a couple thousand people to donate a few bucks each we can get a real case started. Anyone can sue for breach of laws.
Trump needs to create a department in his campaign staff that organizes conservatives for actions like this. Not just "send some donations" or "get out and vote", but give us all something to do. Tell us to call certain people and ask for action on a subject. Ask for lawyers to collaborate on class action suits. Lawfare is effective. Hell, even if you ask for money, tell us "We're raising money to buy advertising time on a major TV channel to play the censored HCQ doctors video".
You would see a massive upswell of support for these agendas. We would only trust Trump though, too many other snake oil salesmen or grifters waiting to seize patriot's money for their own causes.
If I went back in time to myself 6 years ago and told my past self that someday I would not trust any public figure except Donald Trump, and that I would gladly take a bullet for him, I would have laughed myself right onto the floor and never believed it. God bless this timeline.
I'm going to work on something to at least get us started. I'm going to research some of this to get those people in a spreadsheet or something. One of my companies is a financial services company, so I'll ask my business partners about how to set up a fund we can pay into to start funding shit like this.
Disgorge the companies. Our government needs to respond to the Miller Act Notice submitted by Leader Technologies under Michael McKibben, the creators of the technologies that drive scalable social media.
For a brief overview: "The Truth About Facebook" by The Truth Factory on YouTube. aim4truth.org
I know Tulsi Gabbard sued Google but that got dismissed.
Agreed, this is demonstrably true.
However many people are clamoring for the opposite. The EO is attempting to regulate this in the opposite direction too; it even uses the word "platform" to describe social media.
This failure to define the service for what it is will continue to make this issue muddy and ultimately a mess.
Read the user agreement on each of the services in question. They all explicitly stipulate that user submitted content is subject to censorship. And as we can observe, this is not just written policy, it is put into practice.
A large part of the problem is that so few actually read the fine print before agreeing to use the service, and assumed they were using some free speech platform. They never were, and it is their own fault for not understanding the agreement.
And this will always be the case for these companies. You can't force them to change their ways by government edict. You can try, but you end up with an entirely unnatural situation where they are still biased, but play cat and mouse just enough to avoid regulatory scrutiny.
Many people think this is the answer. Seems unlikely to work out, and just supports the monopoly these companies already enjoy, by supporting the erroneous conclusion that they are the new "town halls". This flawed interpretation traps the users in a service that treats them poorly.
I'd suggest the EO should have aimed for the reverse: classify these services as publishers, once and for all, since that is what they truly are. Lift the veil, expose the truth: these services are abusing the users and their content.
As publishers, the services can be held liable for damages for problematic content. We stop pretending user submitted content on the service is free speech. This allows for competition in this market, where consumers can choose to support the publisher that has the most value. The one that treats them fairly. The one that is not a propaganda tool for globalists.
This is Obozo's legacy. Big tech has grown into a cartel and seized control over the internet during 8 years of Obozo, partly because of his support, partly because of the financial crisis which smashed the traditional industries and gave them a unique opportunity.
Big tech is stepping up for each measure Trump crushes the main stream outlets. President Trump commands the narrative with an open line of communication. This has to piss them of that they have become the go around and voice for everything they hate. Desperately trying to stop the pre- election Trump train.
For the lazy:
I'd upvote, but I'm too lazy...
Now it’s our job to class action lawsuit these Silicon Valley fucks.
Sounds legit and reasonable to me. Wonder how the Brian Stelters are going to twist this into Drumpf being Literally Hitler.
The key verb is "to clarify"...watch this one spin out of control.
Do you know what the timeline is on the clarification? Is it another 30 days from filing the request with the FCC?
I for one don't know. It's really a slam dunk q/a: the regulations already say that, he's just asking them to officially confirm that--which is all calling them out--though a lot of commissions require that a complaint be filed--they don't look for violations. It would be great if this was applied retroactively, as it should be, so Twit and YT could be sued into extinction.
You're up, Pai.
What are the chances Jack gets roasted today?
I read Jack hasn't responded to the letter yet, so he probably won't show, unfortunately.
Great, but can FCC get it done before the election?
VOTE VOTE VOTE
THERE CAN BE NO WAITING - The FCC needs to get it one today, or yesterday. Go take a look at what the TECH GIANTS have done to the Frontline Doctors trying to discuss Media Misinformation on Treating Coronavirus.
Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and Google , and now VIMEO have censored the doctors after they promoted hydroxychloroquine as a life-saving medication in treating the coronavirus.
BESIDES THAT we need a statement from General Milley telling us how he plans to defend us if, in a time of National Emergency, the "Tech Giants" shut down American citizens access to the internet and cell phones.
REMEMBER OBAMA, THAT TREASONOUS COWARD GAVE AWAY OUR INTERNET. So, knowing that, does the wishy-washy Milley have a plan or is he complicit ?????
Big tech shuts down group of medical whistleblowers.
They also got to their web hosting provider who then shut down their website. Also the CDC website has stripped all Info on covid with hydroxy chloroquine
Being realistic here -- likely not.
The full weight of the federal government can change their policies TODAY and enforcement still likely wouldn't happen before election. These Silicon Valley fucks will DELAY, DELAY, DELAY any lawsuits on the off chance Biden "wins" so that they can reverse this and continue as usual. In the process they will make sure to burn their own systems down (read: purge more people) as revenge.
I fear you're right.
We'll know for sure soon.
Possibly. GEOTUS just lobbed the ball straight into Ajit Pai's court, and that man is a level 100 troll. So he can get it done. Then comes enforcement. And that will all depend on how much rot he has within his organization in the form of covert DSA members and globohomo footsoldiers.
It is cutting it close. We will see what Ajit can do.
It all depends on where Pai and the Republican Commissioners are angling to get their next gig. Back in the day, Commissioners' next gig would be a DC law firm specializing in FCC issues, so they could majorly cash out. Nowadays, they're going to the private sector to cash out. The FCC right now is doing all it can to suck Google/Facebook dick in a number of proceedings, where they're obviously spiking the ball - and this is going on in proceedings where issues can be resolved with empirical, scientific testing to determine outcomes. Unless DJT actually got on the phone with Pai, O'Rielly and Carr and knows how they're going to vote, this isn't a done deal. Plus, there's shitloads of career employees there, and they're all unionized Democrats.
No. They can't and even if they could it wouldn't matter. Big tech would just keep doing what they want, deny everything, and fight it in court.
Trump would have to do something drastic and authoritarian. I wish he could just shut them down for a day when they censor him. Something.
So... What's gonna happen? Nothing?
Well, it looks like he gave the FCC tools to fight some censorship atleast. The thing is, will they use the tools? Idk.
More needs to be done, the tech tyrants are going full retard an are making huge errors along the way. We can't be the only ones who see it.
Is the FCC corrupt as hell like we found out (for sure lol) the CIA and FBI is? I still just see civil war as the enevitable outcome. When this happens China will fill the power vacuum and we are The People's Republic of the United States of China.
Well I am sure there are swamp creatures but we got some fantastic people in the higher ups that make the decisions who are based as ever. Like Ajit Pai, the chairman of the FCC. Also Brendan Carr seems pretty based too, hes a commissioner of the FCC .
Fuck Ajit Pai, he killed my dog with Net Neutrality!
same.
lol I still remember all the melting down over Pai and net neutrality.
And then all that happened to internet services were improvements and all the people reeeing about it have completely forgot about it because social media sites stopping telling them to care.
You don´t think this scenario has been already game played? The west had to be extremely careful when the USSR collapsed. The great fear was either a stolen or misfired warhead.
Same is true with where the US is headed. Our neighbors and adversaries surely have contingency plans in the works to avoid antagonizing rogue elements.
Everyone needs to chill out and observe from the sidelines while we clean house.
Exactly. It is said that Trump knows about Parler, if he moves it's over for Twatter. The NPCs won't have anyone else to reeeeee at bigly.
Is that true though? If Twitter gets rid of trump or trump gets rid of Twitter... Twitter wins the censorship battle. Really you have to keep fighting. Parler isn't ready. It's not nearly as clean (interface and otherwise) as Twitter and I hate Twitter.
Dot win wasn’t ready. TD ended and dot win got ready reeeeeeal fast.
I apologize I don't have a source on this, but the scuttlebutt is that Twitter was not doing well before the 2016 election, and that everyone reeeeeeeing on Trump is what caused a surge in their traffic.
This may or may not be of help, though it is from 2018: https://www.denverpost.com/2018/02/08/twitter-makes-money-for-first-time/
With the growing sentiment against Twitter, I think their days are numbered. I see normies all over referring to Twitter as "toxic" because of all the SJWs and cancel culture. Unless Twitter literally reverses course a full 180 degrees to get rid of that, this sentiment will just build and build until people don't think Twitter is fun or cool anymore, and then they'll abandon it for the next most popular platform.
Cultural Marxism is a race to the bottom, a race to who's "most oppressed". It will never get better unless they literally change their entire fundamental worldview. Likely not going to happen. Hundreds of millions of people throughout history have chosen death over changing their worldview. Twitter as a company will "die" as in become irrelevant because the competition is gaining market share.
We're in the midst of Web 3.0. Free speech and/or decentralized and/or self-hosted competition is the next BIG THING. Just like how Web 2.0 led to MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. it's now going back to the consumer having control of their own privacy, not some sketchy data center hosted in the middle of a desert.
Nah leave them a wasteland like Myspace. Things move fast in tech.
Wishful thinking.
Big tech is now big corporate and not the amateur days of Myspace.
Just delay crossposts to Twitter by 1 hour. There, I fixed this problem.
All of his post on twitter should just be links to the actual message on Parler. But one draw back of Parler, is you can't view a message unless you create an account.
This isn't a drawback, it's a critical flaw, imo.
100%. Not being able to view without an account hampers any scalability to the point of not being serious competition.
Just as with "communities.win" sites each being on a different second level domain hampers our scalability to the point of not being serious competition to reddit.
Tough redpill to swallow but both Parler and TheDonald.win are by definition "controlled opposition". The worst part is it's by CHOICE which means the people running these sites are being "useful idiots".
There are OBVIOUS fixes clear as day and why the people that run these sites won't implement them is INCREDIBLY fishy. They don't compromise the infrastructure of the sites in anyway, as they're both currently centralized and would continue to be centralized.
YES!!! This will permanently bury them if they don't fix it. No one will go for that.
Not a draw back, it is a death blow. Normies like me that never made a twatter will never send parler their pii to make an account.
I doubt he could amass 84million followers between now and nov 3rd
Agreed but Twitter has been shadow banning GEOTUS' 84 million followers for awhile now.
if you find out your president got banned? he'll do just fine
The wise general does not give battle when and where the enemy insists on fighting, but where he knows he can win.
I'd rather he fight than abandon the battlefield.
Lindsay Graham is writing a memo. lol.
KEK
You’re a toxic faggot
Get fucked, shill.
Stay gay faggot
They are utilities at this point. Imagine being denied phone service for not following the narrative.
It already happens. Look at Credit Card companies and gun manufacturers
Well, those are not considered utilities. Although, there is an argument to be made that credit card companies should be utilities.
It would be like your phone company cutting you off because they don't like what you talk about. Or your electricity being cut off because you didn't vote how they wanted you to.
Right, my point exactly. Both of those are utilities though and therefore they cannot do that.
In this case, govt regulation works and is needed.
I many instances social media is how people now communicate with each other instead of text/phone/etc. This is right there with it.
Yes, they should be a utility. Have to be classified as such by Fed Gov
That's an easy win on precedent. What it lacked previously was an inciting case since no one wanted to pull that trigger unless they need to cause in the end it is still 9 people deciding. Look up the old corporate towns, they would buy the land then regulate whatever they wanted because "mai private cumpaknees!" Just cause you bought or built a public square doesn't mean its no longer the public square, the area where the most Americans can hear you in a given area (DOUBLE especially with the lockdowns, they shot themselves in the foot here by trying to force the country to stay closed since now its JUST digitally) IS the public square. The general rule of thumb is "how open are you to the public?" Social Media uses the most lax model possible, literally everyone can come in then they sort it by their standards after. This means they are generally subject to the strictest standards of free speech (as precedent was set in the Shopping Mall preaching cases).
I give you Chief Compromised Justice Roberts.
Of that homo Gorsuck
Why isn't every space in America considered a public square? Why do our rights seemingly not apply anywhere?
2020 must be THE last year in which the left gets to have uncontested digital access to our ears, eyes and brains.
All the more imperative for each of us to build conservative solutions to these problems.
Don't forget who is the head of the FCC.
Ajit Pai - Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission
We may actually get some action on this from the FCC.
Yeah, but you seem to forget how many people he killed because of net neutrality, you Nazi.
Who can forget?! I heard through the NYT that Ajit Pai was a lieutenant in the FlammenPanzerWerfer (they fired flaming tanks at allied troops) brigade under Hitler. He and the Hell's Angels reportedly instigated Kristallnacht.
I was told by anonymous sauces that Ajit Pai kills babies and drink their blood in a ritual to keep the holy net neutrality away
I was told by media sources who heard from people that were in the room with people who were familiar with his thinking that he originally converted David Koresh then left him the cult but before that, he was Ted Kaczynski math teacher.
Nothing wrong with that, Ted is fucking based and anprim pilled.
Nothing matches the ultimate being K I L L D O Z E R though
Ajit Pai drew up the plans for the killdozer, bro. You have no idea how evil r/technology told me he was.
If he did it, it would have guns that use machine learning to automatically identify and shoot any commies by parsing their tweets
Some powerful wealthy people were behind manufacturing the freakout.
He turned me into a newt!
A newt?!
I got better.
I heard he was the guy that nailed Jesus to the cross.
It would almost make me want to visit Reddit one more time to see the meltdown. But not really.
I don't have the app or log in, l just go there once a month mostly to see comments on new guitar gear. But yeah, lts just leftist crap now.
Remember when we all died from him rolling back net neutrality?
Oh shit. Ajit Pai involved now. Want to bet he's literally wringing his hands and curling the ends of his mustache right now?
I got that song stuck in my head now, so I too got fiiiiiiive on it!
America!
Typical trump, 500 steps ahead. Instead of crying and whining about being censored, as the media will portray him anyway, what he actually did was essentially say:
"OK it's fine that you censored me, that's your right as a PUBLISHER to do so. And you will be treated as such."
He gave plenty of warnings. Shit's moving now.
This is not 500 steps ahead. This needed to happen sooner. I am happy to see more news of this EO but I am concerned of it turning into nothing or simply being too late.
I don't see why both sides of the political spectrum can't get behind something like this. Freedom of thought and speech is an American value.
Those values are not communist values. Be not mistaken, the left are full commie.
Because leftist ideas inevitably fail when exposed to honest debate. The left simply can't allow any dissent or critical thinking to be applied to their shit policies. They censor us out of necessity.
Socialism isn’t competitive with capitalism. That’s why.
Is this awesome? This looks awesome.
No need to alter or edit, they just delete your post and ban your account completely removing your freedom of speech. This should be the main focus imho.
Yeah this petition really needs to be revised and resubmitted to include deletion/banning as unacceptable. Not including that language presents such an obvious loophole.
If misinformation gets you removed from the internet, then most mainstream media should likewise be banned: https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/269821287/can-we-get-some-more-of-these
Awesome. This is some of the best news I’ve heard in a while. And it makes complete sense. Either you’re a “bulletin board” or you’re not. It’s fine if you’re not. But then you don’t get the same protections as if you were.
I fear it's too late. They will ignore and litigate this thru election season hoping they can pull the coup where they won't have to worry about it anymore. The one good thing about this timing is that they have now blatantly spooled up their gaslighting mechanisms and there is clear and present predicate for issuing this order.
The Lion roared this morning.
They need to speed this up. The election is just about 3 months away and social media companies are really pushing the limits the closer we get. At this point it seems likely they'll stoop to anything to help Biden. I won't be surprised if Trump is just outright banned on several platforms before the election.
An EO for the FCC to have a meeting... This is useless beyond a press statement.
Super majority in the House and Senate is the only real hope. Of course, at that point they would actually have to pass something....
Switch platforms NOW and hit them in the pockets. Take the house and Senate and push for reform.
Beyond that I am SURE we could get them for providing aid to the enemy (Iran can still use this service and what not).
It would be a amazing optics to have twitter go to bat for the Iranians.
And I'm pretty sure i remember him already asking them to review 230 a month ago?
Imagine if Verizon could cancel your cell phone plan because they saw your texts messages saying you believe in the biological definition of gender. That’s basically what Twitter and FB are doing.
What needs to happen is also for external audits to be conducted to ensure compliance with anti-trust & anti-discrimination laws.
Noice - This is a follow up to May's strongly worded letter and our realization yesterday or the day before that the 60-90day waiting period was nearly up for the FTC or FCC or do some-thing.
Now we know, one guy did his thing and is passing it to the other guy to do his thing, then once the things have been signed off by all parties, Trump can do his thing.
Thank you President Trump. Now give them 15 days to respond, if they don't, then take their domains down.
After the scorched earth policy Twitter,Facebook, and Youtube under took to scrub the video of doctors talking about how to possibly cure the china flu and remove it from the Presidents own Twitter account along with other Conservatives who themselves had there accounts suspended over this Trump decided the paying out of "enough rope to hand yourself" he decided to hang them. Bravo! But have no fear some Obama holdover Federal Judge will try to stop this.
"filed a petition to clarify the scope of Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act"
Hey can anyone who speaks faggot-tier legalese... can you sum this up for me?
As the act is legislation the president can not outright change it but can have the executive body he does control alter how they few the relative section. Similar to how rhe EPA under Obama vastly grew their regulatory powers without new legislation.
Get the checkbook out Jack.
I just wish he did this 3 years ago. Bureaucracy moves slow, and nothing will be done before the election. You can count on google, facebook, et al. to do more and more censorship and info manipulation in the coming months to interfere with the election (and, with respect to the Kung Flu, cause unnecessary death and panic).
He had to bait them into fully outing themselves.
my dood, did you not see this years ago: https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/09/12/leaked-video-google-leaderships-dismayed-reaction-to-trump-election/
they have been pretty damn open about the fact that they intended to use their power to prevent Trump from being reelected for quite some time.
I have high hopes but liberal high tech won't change without a massive court fight. Anyone trust Roberts enough not to side with 4 democrat justices to strike down the EO?
How is Google not a monopoly? This is asinine!
Finally!
It's not enough to follow the rules to crush these people. They know they can stall until November 4th and escape with no consequences.
Seems to me big tech is being so brazen in their censorship because they aren't afraid that Trump will win in November.
I think they know (because they're going to help) that the election is gonna' get jacked. Google is probably printing ballots as we speak.
Fuck around and find out.
I have no faith in the FCC.
Hell yeah, changes to Section 230. Definitely needed.
I bet Tim Pool will be happy to hear this news.
We need Elon to focus on replacing Google. He has the brightest minds available and the wealth to do it. Mars is cool, but we need some serious help down here.
I don't understand why Mars is even a consideration? Why not just make an indoor city here?
If big tech is a platform then The Pirate Bay did nothing wrong
Publishers, not platforms.
Can I ask a question - how are the SHAREHOLDERS and BOARD OK with this CENSORSHIP? The ones that are public companies are turning away MILLIONS of Customers and BILLIONS in business, just to support a Leftist/Marxist agenda - how in God's name are people who are trying to maximize their shareholder value OK with this??!!!
They poked the bear one too many times.
Remember when the left maliciously complied with takedown abuse at chilling effects.org?