They forced low income housing in my neighborhood, and on the regular, my Ring alerts are primarily from that one location. Unfortunately, they are putting more in a new development in the same suburb. Developers are just as culpable in all of this, since they leech tax credits from taxpayers through local govt in exchange for putting a percentage of low income in their projects. I bought in this neighborhood for a reason dang it.
I lived until recently in a very swanky neighborhood that was constantly under attack for not having low income housing. The loveliness of the town - beautiful homes, clean streets, zero crime, were reflected in the huge housing costs. After years of litigation, the town agreed to build low income housing.
They built one apartment building (pre-fab, like Legos) for elderly low income. No other family members may live there. No use of schools. They had to transplant old people from inner cities to fill it up. But, because the "grankids" can't stay with grandma to use the schools, it worked out. Also, it is located on a highway overpass, barely within the town limits. You'd never know it was there.
That's the problem with concentrating low income housing in one place. You end up with Cabrini-Green all over again.
Also, I think there should be some sort of scale with low-income housing. Just like anyone else, maybe you should have to work your way up to get to a nice neighborhood; that would help serve as a filter to let those in who will have comparable standards of care for their residence. It makes absolutely no sense to just gift someone a house in an upper-middle-class neighborhood without making them work proportionally more for it; the alternative is someone who has no appreciation for it and places no value on it; takes no pride in their 'achievement'.
For a lower-middle-class person who has to work really hard to get into a slightly-less-shitty-neighborhood, a slightly nicer apartment, it's a disincentive for someone else to come along and get the same thing with a big government handout just for making it to the top of a list.
it's usually not houses though. It's multi family homes/apartments. But yeah, it's still free. I had a neighbor who hadn't worked for years after "hurting her back" and would bitch and moan about her $60.00 rent. Yes $60.
yep. and they will trash it. they will party all night, scream and fight, do fucking jumping jacks at night or install shelves n shit at 2am. No rhyme nor reason to anything they do as they keep bizarre hours. You'll go out onto your patio and see cigarette butts and cigarette plastic covers everywhere. I've found fucking condoms and roaches (weed), and speaking of roaches: you will end up dealing with them or bed bugs.
These are animals. They are not part of the family of man. I don't care what skin color they are. There is a mental disconnection that I firmly believe just makes them talking apes.
tbh in this suburb the opposite scenario actually happened. it still descended into crime and poverty, but for different reasons. mainly inept governance at the state level that doesnt care about the rest of the state outside of its liberal voter base.
all the parents ended up turning to drugs and despair, which their kids stole while i was in high school (mainly opiates) when all the industry closed around them taking their jobs and livelihoods. which never came back as taxes rose and rose -- but never were used on our own communities.
the people who received the HUD ended up being the people who already owned homes here and used it to pay off their existing mortgages, or already rented here, but it still became a crime infested cesspit for the sole reason of lack of employment.
a few very liberal jobs came in, with requirements that nobody here had. and you had some people move in that were ultra liberal but the rich bastard kind that know what they're up to.
at this point the town basically practiced protectionism to protect existing town businesses that still existed and kept taxes and everything as low as possible in spite of it. but people still either left, or got trapped in the cycle of despair.
plenty of skilled tradesmen ended up having to make a go of it like a gig economy over the summer when there is work, and for many it just doesnt work.
needless to say im gonna leave too. nothing here anymore.
but the point is it can go south in more ways than just one. here it wasnt that policy itself, but the OTHER liberal policies which murdered us. previously nobody here wouldve possibly needed it.
but any proposal which benefits anything that is not the city immediately gets shut down and our voices dont matter. and even for those few liberal city jobs, even if you wanted to commute and have skills, since its so competitive to get them, entry level stuff people do while in college as a first job or with no credentials at all often require insane shit that you could leave the state and get paid 4x as much with the same credentials you already have.
They forced low income housing in my neighborhood, and on the regular, my Ring alerts are primarily from that one location. Unfortunately, they are putting more in a new development in the same suburb. Developers are just as culpable in all of this, since they leech tax credits from taxpayers through local govt in exchange for putting a percentage of low income in their projects. I bought in this neighborhood for a reason dang it.
I lived until recently in a very swanky neighborhood that was constantly under attack for not having low income housing. The loveliness of the town - beautiful homes, clean streets, zero crime, were reflected in the huge housing costs. After years of litigation, the town agreed to build low income housing.
They built one apartment building (pre-fab, like Legos) for elderly low income. No other family members may live there. No use of schools. They had to transplant old people from inner cities to fill it up. But, because the "grankids" can't stay with grandma to use the schools, it worked out. Also, it is located on a highway overpass, barely within the town limits. You'd never know it was there.
I bet the old people loved it too.
That's the problem with concentrating low income housing in one place. You end up with Cabrini-Green all over again.
Also, I think there should be some sort of scale with low-income housing. Just like anyone else, maybe you should have to work your way up to get to a nice neighborhood; that would help serve as a filter to let those in who will have comparable standards of care for their residence. It makes absolutely no sense to just gift someone a house in an upper-middle-class neighborhood without making them work proportionally more for it; the alternative is someone who has no appreciation for it and places no value on it; takes no pride in their 'achievement'.
For a lower-middle-class person who has to work really hard to get into a slightly-less-shitty-neighborhood, a slightly nicer apartment, it's a disincentive for someone else to come along and get the same thing with a big government handout just for making it to the top of a list.
it's usually not houses though. It's multi family homes/apartments. But yeah, it's still free. I had a neighbor who hadn't worked for years after "hurting her back" and would bitch and moan about her $60.00 rent. Yes $60.
yep. and they will trash it. they will party all night, scream and fight, do fucking jumping jacks at night or install shelves n shit at 2am. No rhyme nor reason to anything they do as they keep bizarre hours. You'll go out onto your patio and see cigarette butts and cigarette plastic covers everywhere. I've found fucking condoms and roaches (weed), and speaking of roaches: you will end up dealing with them or bed bugs.
These are animals. They are not part of the family of man. I don't care what skin color they are. There is a mental disconnection that I firmly believe just makes them talking apes.
even with government guaranteed rent paid to a landlord for a subsidized tenant, most still think it is a risk to rent to that person.
tbh in this suburb the opposite scenario actually happened. it still descended into crime and poverty, but for different reasons. mainly inept governance at the state level that doesnt care about the rest of the state outside of its liberal voter base.
all the parents ended up turning to drugs and despair, which their kids stole while i was in high school (mainly opiates) when all the industry closed around them taking their jobs and livelihoods. which never came back as taxes rose and rose -- but never were used on our own communities.
the people who received the HUD ended up being the people who already owned homes here and used it to pay off their existing mortgages, or already rented here, but it still became a crime infested cesspit for the sole reason of lack of employment.
a few very liberal jobs came in, with requirements that nobody here had. and you had some people move in that were ultra liberal but the rich bastard kind that know what they're up to.
at this point the town basically practiced protectionism to protect existing town businesses that still existed and kept taxes and everything as low as possible in spite of it. but people still either left, or got trapped in the cycle of despair.
plenty of skilled tradesmen ended up having to make a go of it like a gig economy over the summer when there is work, and for many it just doesnt work.
needless to say im gonna leave too. nothing here anymore.
but the point is it can go south in more ways than just one. here it wasnt that policy itself, but the OTHER liberal policies which murdered us. previously nobody here wouldve possibly needed it.
but any proposal which benefits anything that is not the city immediately gets shut down and our voices dont matter. and even for those few liberal city jobs, even if you wanted to commute and have skills, since its so competitive to get them, entry level stuff people do while in college as a first job or with no credentials at all often require insane shit that you could leave the state and get paid 4x as much with the same credentials you already have.
its literally nuts.