Funny how there is a stereotype of trailer parks being populated mainly by poor White people.
Strangely, the Left is rather silent on sponsoring efforts to help get poor White families out of poverty and give them opportunities, prioritize their education or job applications. Aren't they as deserving as anyone else?
I've always held that a poor rural White kid is just as disadvantaged as a poor Black kid from the inner city. You can't tell me that Sasha and Malia Obama are somehow in need of more assistance than some rural West Virginia kid in a dead-end coal mining town. (The main industry of said town being under attack by Liberals who fail to consider the collateral damage [or don't care] )
Note: I'm a proponent of getting us off of coal. But the way to do that isn't just taking away peoples' livelihoods with a rubber stamp. "Learn to code" isn't super useful to probably 95% of coal miners anymore than it is to laid-off journalists. Coal phase-out should be, needs to be accompanied by manufacturing incentives for companies to relocate to those areas and provide jobs and a transition path out of mining. With all of the tax dollars being spread around, I'm sure we can spare some to keep people employed and get them into a healthier (for them) profession.
And in those regions dependent upon coal for their livelihoods, we must bring back manufacturing. As you said, cola miners aren't going to learn to code. They can, however, be retrained to do other jobs, like factory work.
It is critical that Trump re-shore manufacturing of all kinds. Didn't Maine used to be the shoe capital of the country? Bring it back! How about all the pharmaceuticals that need to leave ChYna and be made here? Build factories in places where people need work! NOT Amazon in NYC.
maybe if we didnt remove tariffs on goods coming in from outside the country it would incentivize companies to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US. Those same countries that enjoy tariff free goods sold here do not extend the US the same courtesy.
in my experience is usually a healthy mix of white and hispanic in trailer parks. very few blacks though which is weird. I used to work in rent to own and i've been to trailer parks all over the states I've lived in. Its like 60/35/5 White, hispanic, black/other.
I been doing this shit since i was 10. let me tell you. without the b.s. or higher AND connections you SOL getting any job. nobody will even ask what you know or look at a portfolio without one or both of those. You could be gods gift to earth and they'd refuse to look at you.
if i cant get that job, no chance in hell a coal miner who just started a week ago can. theyd be retirement age by the time they started having the skill to actually do the work -- and even if they did do it amazingly fast as a legendary talent -- nobody would hire them anyway.
learn to code is an absolute fucking joke. if you have a connection you got a slim to none chance of bypassing HR. without that, HR will burn your application in a fire before even reading it. so that coal miner is gonna have to start his own successful startup to get into the biz -- no other way for him, not without giving him entirely free college retraining to help him (self learning leaves some gaps at least up to the mid-level once you get there you can continue on your own just fine), and access to social groups of engineers which the guy likely does not have.
not to mention it takes a special type of person to be a programmer and not literally hate themselves from the type of unique stresses it causes. you have to enjoy doing it and tolerate that well under pressure.
almost 100% of all coders, hobbyists + pros alike, agree with me entirely in tech discussion communities.
would you ask a programmer with sissy arms that cant possibly produce the same as other workers in coal mining to go become a coal miner?
because I cant work in my field, I often DO work construction, and I take a LOT LESS PAY because I cant carry as much and i hurt my frail body easily. people are surprised how hard i bust my ass through the pain -- often continuing to work with broken bones and not going to the doctor. but it doesnt mean I can handle it really, or be as productive. guy next to me does twice the work twice as fast -- and nobody blames me. i take less money and they see me trying as hard as they are. its just you cant expect me to lift 4x my bodyweight which is like half theirs.
I disagree with this. I think you underestimate the intelligence of a lot of miners. Obviously it's not for everyone, or even most people, which is why I said (wild guess) 5%. And I use 'learn to code' liberally. There are a number of jobs in and around the tech field that are not explicitly programming, but acquire an ability to learn new technology and do something with it, or with people.
Separately, you're not wrong in that a lot of positions come from connections. There's just too much competition to try to get in to most companies just by applying online or sending in your resume.
I'm not asserting that someone leaves their job at the mine on a Monday and starts at Google on Friday. But there's a large spectrum between that and "is never retrainable and could never work in the tech field"
Finally, I'm sorry about your experiences in the industry and your difficulty finding work. You sound discouraged, and if I can help, or you just want to talk, PM me.
Fair. That's a very good point. Just like there will be a demand for non-fuel uses of oil for a while, I think that's a reasonable use for coal, although since Carbon is the input for steel making, CO2 distillation from the atmosphere would probably be easier than digging it out of the ground. But until that day, we should definitely keep some coal mining around, just not burning for electricity or heat.
Funny how there is a stereotype of trailer parks being populated mainly by poor White people.
Strangely, the Left is rather silent on sponsoring efforts to help get poor White families out of poverty and give them opportunities, prioritize their education or job applications. Aren't they as deserving as anyone else?
I've always held that a poor rural White kid is just as disadvantaged as a poor Black kid from the inner city. You can't tell me that Sasha and Malia Obama are somehow in need of more assistance than some rural West Virginia kid in a dead-end coal mining town. (The main industry of said town being under attack by Liberals who fail to consider the collateral damage [or don't care] )
Note: I'm a proponent of getting us off of coal. But the way to do that isn't just taking away peoples' livelihoods with a rubber stamp. "Learn to code" isn't super useful to probably 95% of coal miners anymore than it is to laid-off journalists. Coal phase-out should be, needs to be accompanied by manufacturing incentives for companies to relocate to those areas and provide jobs and a transition path out of mining. With all of the tax dollars being spread around, I'm sure we can spare some to keep people employed and get them into a healthier (for them) profession.
And in those regions dependent upon coal for their livelihoods, we must bring back manufacturing. As you said, cola miners aren't going to learn to code. They can, however, be retrained to do other jobs, like factory work.
It is critical that Trump re-shore manufacturing of all kinds. Didn't Maine used to be the shoe capital of the country? Bring it back! How about all the pharmaceuticals that need to leave ChYna and be made here? Build factories in places where people need work! NOT Amazon in NYC.
maybe if we didnt remove tariffs on goods coming in from outside the country it would incentivize companies to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US. Those same countries that enjoy tariff free goods sold here do not extend the US the same courtesy.
in my experience is usually a healthy mix of white and hispanic in trailer parks. very few blacks though which is weird. I used to work in rent to own and i've been to trailer parks all over the states I've lived in. Its like 60/35/5 White, hispanic, black/other.
learn to code isnt useful for anyone.
I been doing this shit since i was 10. let me tell you. without the b.s. or higher AND connections you SOL getting any job. nobody will even ask what you know or look at a portfolio without one or both of those. You could be gods gift to earth and they'd refuse to look at you.
if i cant get that job, no chance in hell a coal miner who just started a week ago can. theyd be retirement age by the time they started having the skill to actually do the work -- and even if they did do it amazingly fast as a legendary talent -- nobody would hire them anyway.
learn to code is an absolute fucking joke. if you have a connection you got a slim to none chance of bypassing HR. without that, HR will burn your application in a fire before even reading it. so that coal miner is gonna have to start his own successful startup to get into the biz -- no other way for him, not without giving him entirely free college retraining to help him (self learning leaves some gaps at least up to the mid-level once you get there you can continue on your own just fine), and access to social groups of engineers which the guy likely does not have.
not to mention it takes a special type of person to be a programmer and not literally hate themselves from the type of unique stresses it causes. you have to enjoy doing it and tolerate that well under pressure.
almost 100% of all coders, hobbyists + pros alike, agree with me entirely in tech discussion communities.
would you ask a programmer with sissy arms that cant possibly produce the same as other workers in coal mining to go become a coal miner?
because I cant work in my field, I often DO work construction, and I take a LOT LESS PAY because I cant carry as much and i hurt my frail body easily. people are surprised how hard i bust my ass through the pain -- often continuing to work with broken bones and not going to the doctor. but it doesnt mean I can handle it really, or be as productive. guy next to me does twice the work twice as fast -- and nobody blames me. i take less money and they see me trying as hard as they are. its just you cant expect me to lift 4x my bodyweight which is like half theirs.
I disagree with this. I think you underestimate the intelligence of a lot of miners. Obviously it's not for everyone, or even most people, which is why I said (wild guess) 5%. And I use 'learn to code' liberally. There are a number of jobs in and around the tech field that are not explicitly programming, but acquire an ability to learn new technology and do something with it, or with people.
Separately, you're not wrong in that a lot of positions come from connections. There's just too much competition to try to get in to most companies just by applying online or sending in your resume.
I'm not asserting that someone leaves their job at the mine on a Monday and starts at Google on Friday. But there's a large spectrum between that and "is never retrainable and could never work in the tech field"
Finally, I'm sorry about your experiences in the industry and your difficulty finding work. You sound discouraged, and if I can help, or you just want to talk, PM me.
Fair. That's a very good point. Just like there will be a demand for non-fuel uses of oil for a while, I think that's a reasonable use for coal, although since Carbon is the input for steel making, CO2 distillation from the atmosphere would probably be easier than digging it out of the ground. But until that day, we should definitely keep some coal mining around, just not burning for electricity or heat.