They spoke the words of what they envisioned, in the greatest declaration in history: "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
We, the people. Whoever that is. And in the pursuit of the perfect union of people. Regardless of your skin color, religion, whatever. If you're with us, you're American.
I think we're furthest from that vision than any time since it was written, and previous to that. We have generations of people who were born into the most coveted, desired nationality ever, and despise it, have no respect for it, and want to throw it away for the pipe dreams of mealy mouthed 60's Marxists and slimy, power and money grabbing globalists.
I've lived outside the US - and despite the good things other cultures have to share, it just made me realize how special, how valuable, how worth fighting for being American is. The world hates us, because they covet what we have, what we built. I was born an American. I was raised in America. And you don't have the right to take that away from me, because you're jealous. You want what we have? Work for it. If some slimy EU shithead starts in with "You Americans" the only proper response is "Go fuck yourself." I'm proud of the country I was born in, contribute to, and support.
Imagine you could talk to the founders. Either hop into a time machine to appear before the continental congress, or zap them all into existence here and now. How do you think they'd react to "Of course it's natural that our nation should fill with Mohammedans and Africans and Cental and South American mestizos, because the United States is just a neat idea."
A piece of paper that says you're a citizen does not make you magically turn American. American soil isn't made up of magic dirt that turns people American when they come here. The problem is the vast majority of them AREN'T WITH US, and they never will be.
To ourselves and our posterity. Interesting phrase.
That means to the American citizens alive at that time, and their descendants. That means me, and many of you. It doesnt mean anyone who happens to come along.
Ok, I agree there, we are not meant to become minorities but that’s not what I was saying. I simply meant to say the constitution, to me, was not violated by giving rights to women and people of color. It says “all (white) men are created equal,” was Lincoln anti-American for freeing blacks? No. We’re not meant to be minorities, but we’re also the best country of all time and we’re that way for a reason.
Lincoln freed the blacks, but he didn’t intend for them to vote, or even stay here, because he knew the two societies would never be one and would never be equal. Check out some of the text of his actual debates with Douglas if you doubt that.
Oh, so 'living document' tripe.
Guess what, they didn't dream of it because it was a retarded idea, becoming a minority in your homeland.
They were far more sensible back then.
They spoke the words of what they envisioned, in the greatest declaration in history: "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
We, the people. Whoever that is. And in the pursuit of the perfect union of people. Regardless of your skin color, religion, whatever. If you're with us, you're American.
I think we're furthest from that vision than any time since it was written, and previous to that. We have generations of people who were born into the most coveted, desired nationality ever, and despise it, have no respect for it, and want to throw it away for the pipe dreams of mealy mouthed 60's Marxists and slimy, power and money grabbing globalists.
I've lived outside the US - and despite the good things other cultures have to share, it just made me realize how special, how valuable, how worth fighting for being American is. The world hates us, because they covet what we have, what we built. I was born an American. I was raised in America. And you don't have the right to take that away from me, because you're jealous. You want what we have? Work for it. If some slimy EU shithead starts in with "You Americans" the only proper response is "Go fuck yourself." I'm proud of the country I was born in, contribute to, and support.
That's an opinion.
Imagine you could talk to the founders. Either hop into a time machine to appear before the continental congress, or zap them all into existence here and now. How do you think they'd react to "Of course it's natural that our nation should fill with Mohammedans and Africans and Cental and South American mestizos, because the United States is just a neat idea."
A piece of paper that says you're a citizen does not make you magically turn American. American soil isn't made up of magic dirt that turns people American when they come here. The problem is the vast majority of them AREN'T WITH US, and they never will be.
To ourselves and our posterity. Interesting phrase.
That means to the American citizens alive at that time, and their descendants. That means me, and many of you. It doesnt mean anyone who happens to come along.
Ok, I agree there, we are not meant to become minorities but that’s not what I was saying. I simply meant to say the constitution, to me, was not violated by giving rights to women and people of color. It says “all (white) men are created equal,” was Lincoln anti-American for freeing blacks? No. We’re not meant to be minorities, but we’re also the best country of all time and we’re that way for a reason.
Lincoln freed the blacks, but he didn’t intend for them to vote, or even stay here, because he knew the two societies would never be one and would never be equal. Check out some of the text of his actual debates with Douglas if you doubt that.
Lincoln should have shipped them back to Africa when he had the chance.
There’s a reason we are trying to remain white. Liberia had an identical constitution, and look how that turned out
First thing the freed slaves did was go there and enslave the native blacks.
pottery
lol
Name a president who killed more Americans than Lincoln