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aussie_maga 76 points ago +88 / -12

I cannot stand Shapiro.

At 2:10 in the video, he mentions how Trump is vulgar. (Ok fair enough). But then Shapiro mentions that "Romney is the epitome of class and moderation". I stopped listening.

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Samuel_L_Bronkowitz 35 points ago +36 / -1

He sounded a bit sarcastic when he was saying that.

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Rock_Flag_Eagle 30 points ago +33 / -3

Yeah that's his style. He was saying that in a mocking way. I used to listen to Shapiro every day a couple of years ago, but I got tired of his nevertrumpism and his neocon nonsense.

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CommieCucker 21 points ago +22 / -1

He's voting trump

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Checkout 8 points ago +11 / -3

He’s voting Trump until 9 days before the election when he becomes utterly disgusted at what Trump said or did for the 800th time.

Beware of those on the right that are allowed to trend and promoted by YouTube.

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remember1776 -2 points ago +2 / -4

I have trouble digesting the words coming out of that rapid fire mouth of his

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sunwolf87 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have to watch him at 3/4 speed just to comprehend...

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LesboPregnancyScare 17 points ago +18 / -1

he was, he was making a sarastic portrayal of how Democrats view Trump and viewed Romney when he ran.

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DrBJTester 34 points ago +37 / -3

Even a broken cuck errr I mean clock is right twice a day. I like some of his thinking, but he just lacks wisdom or experience, however you want to define what used to be called gravitas.

When the bullets start flying he's going to be hiding under a desk crying. Fucking Mittens? Really go slap some sense into yourself Ben.

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Fabius 4 points ago +8 / -4

He would watch America burn and not give a shit if the Jews were left alone. He's a tribal dude.

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DrBJTester 5 points ago +6 / -1

Jews have been mistreated, however the only path for all of us to preserve freedom for the Republic is to put America first. This is a time for Patriots.

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DrBJTester 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is why The Donald is always Win.

Way to stomp on the tera pede.

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RuPaw 30 points ago +46 / -16

I like Shapiro. He is one of these rare guys who stick to their guns, no matter what. He has a huge following and is quite influential. He will vote for Trump in November and recommends the same to his listeners. At the same time, he reserves the right to criticize the president when he believes criticism is due. That is not bad. Everyone of us - including Donald Trump - is well advised to listen to our critics. Ben Shapiro is never nasty or hateful. He tries to make his case as good as he can. This earns my respect, even if I don't always agree with him.

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aussie_maga 21 points ago +28 / -7

I don't hate criticism of Trump. This is why I can listen to a lot of other content creators like Tim Pool, Styx, Razorfist, America Uncovered, Crowder, etc. Even Paul Joseph Watson criticizes Trump for his tweets.

For me personally, there is a difference between criticism and injecting NeverTrumpism.

When I listen to Shapiro, I get the sense that he does not just stop at criticism, he slowly tries to convert listeners to be NeverTrumpers down the line.

In that clip, if Shapiro criticized Trump and stopped at that, it is fine. But the dropping and contrasting with Romney unnecessarily is a mind injection that to me feels the same way how news readers inject TDS into their news.

It's a shame because Shapiro has intellect to break down things really well.

That's just me, I guess.

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RuPaw 9 points ago +12 / -3

I listened to the whole 50 minutes of today's podcast from which this clip is taken.

Stunning, that you believe that Shapiro criticized Trump and stopped at it. That's simply not true. The whole show summarized in one simple sentence: Democrats in Congress are hateful morons!

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aussie_maga 2 points ago +4 / -2

What I mean is that in that criticism at Trump, if Shapiro stopped at that and did not inject Romney, it would have been fine.

I eventually listened to the whole vid as well, and I don't think he criticized Trump as a whole. Overall, a good vid. I do listen to Shapiro at times to mine for useful arguments to use in my political discussions. But I listen to him WARY that he is a NeverTrumper and ignore the subtle injections he uses.

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Trump-2024 7 points ago +14 / -7

He can't help but to be sneaky and underhanded.

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Mexicola1976 -1 points ago +6 / -7

It's the little beanie that makes him do it.

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NYforTrump 6 points ago +7 / -1

He uses Romney as a foil of failure to explain why Republicans are voting for Trump. Romney is a loser, Republicans recognized that and decided they needed someone who is the opposite. Where Romney is a polite and meek loser, Trump is brash and aggressive winner. Romney is being held up as an example of what doesn't win.

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IntrepidBurger 6 points ago +7 / -1

I listen to him daily, but my chief gripe with him is how blind to how his brand of traditional conservatism is exactly why conservatives have been losing for 30 years. He is the reason for Trump. But he's too clueless to give up his safety blanket of an ideology.

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MrTrumpsWildRide 16 points ago +29 / -13

Nope, he's a turbocuck and a screeching little SJW loser.

Look up the Michelle Fields incident, and you'll see that he believes facts care about his precious feefees.

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_Sully_ 11 points ago +15 / -4

He’s been so bad lately. His interview with Rogan was enraging.

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BidensPoopyUnderwear 10 points ago +13 / -3

Ben is a neocon edge-lord. He has to come out and be different no matter what. If his take is wrong he will keep maintaining its true, because his pride won’t allow him to admit otherwise.

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Avenatti2020 10 points ago +12 / -2

He acts like he is principled, but definitely isn’t.

He said for YEARS despite Bongino educating him and all the evidence present that Russian collusion was a hoax that he needed to see the evidence and the Mueller probe be completed. To re-iterate, he said we didn’t have enough evidence to make a conclusion.

When it came to the Stormy allegations against Trump, not once did he ask for evidence, he acted like it was 100% true without giving it a second thought.

I stopped listening to him awhile ago but did he ever recant on his tariff position where he said it was going to be awful and horrible only to get stumped by Trump? I doubt it.

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PeachmintsPepe45 7 points ago +8 / -1

Exactly. He WANTS President Trump to win and compliments him when he feels he deserves it but he obviously has issues with the President's personality which some will. That's perfectly fine. My parents don't like the President. They think he's just a cocky douche and haven't and don't care to see the other sides of him. But will still vote for him most likely.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

When a guy can perform like trump you gotta let it go. Now if was di nothing Pelosi, different story

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PeachmintsPepe45 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly!

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Staatssicherheit 7 points ago +10 / -3

The guy didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I would love to see the clip of him saying he will vote for Trump in 2020.

Ben Shapiro was nasty and hateful towards Corey Lewandowski. He white-knighted for Michelle Fields and called for Corey to be destroyed. Shapiro never apologized to Corey after videotape came out disproving what Fields alleged.

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Staatssicherheit 5 points ago +6 / -1

Good. Shapiro. Crowder. Gutfield. Trump is winning a lot of these NeverTrump votes.

What did Rogan say?

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PeachmintsPepe45 7 points ago +7 / -0

He's mentioned a couple of times that he wants the President to win.

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MrTrumpsWildRide -2 points ago +1 / -3

Yeah so he can keep screeching about orange man bad.

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VetforTrump 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yup he picked around the perimeter of trumps campaign.

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LesboPregnancyScare 9 points ago +9 / -0

he was making a sarcastic portrayal of how Democrats view DJT and Romney when he ran.

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aussie_maga 2 points ago +3 / -1

ok. maybe hearing Mittens name is just a trigger word for me.

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Swolehas 5 points ago +5 / -0

He wasn't referring to Mittens that way. He was speaking as somebody else observing Trump/Romney to make a point.

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aussie_maga 1 point ago +2 / -1

Still don't like Shapiro. But to be fair, I did replay that 2x so I can see what you're saying. He speaks fast and the delivery is not that good. I also find the name dropping of Romney a bit unnecessary. It is a good vid nonetheless.