I like Shapiro. He is one of these rare guys who stick to their guns, no matter what. He has a huge following and is quite influential. He will vote for Trump in November and recommends the same to his listeners. At the same time, he reserves the right to criticize the president when he believes criticism is due. That is not bad. Everyone of us - including Donald Trump - is well advised to listen to our critics. Ben Shapiro is never nasty or hateful. He tries to make his case as good as he can. This earns my respect, even if I don't always agree with him.
I don't hate criticism of Trump. This is why I can listen to a lot of other content creators like Tim Pool, Styx, Razorfist, America Uncovered, Crowder, etc.
Even Paul Joseph Watson criticizes Trump for his tweets.
For me personally, there is a difference between criticism and injecting NeverTrumpism.
When I listen to Shapiro, I get the sense that he does not just stop at criticism, he slowly tries to convert listeners to be NeverTrumpers down the line.
In that clip, if Shapiro criticized Trump and stopped at that, it is fine. But the dropping and contrasting with Romney unnecessarily is a mind injection that to me feels the same way how news readers inject TDS into their news.
It's a shame because Shapiro has intellect to break down things really well.
I listened to the whole 50 minutes of today's podcast from which this clip is taken.
Stunning, that you believe that Shapiro criticized Trump and stopped at it. That's simply not true. The whole show summarized in one simple sentence: Democrats in Congress are hateful morons!
What I mean is that in that criticism at Trump, if Shapiro stopped at that and did not inject Romney, it would have been fine.
I eventually listened to the whole vid as well, and I don't think he criticized Trump as a whole. Overall, a good vid.
I do listen to Shapiro at times to mine for useful arguments to use in my political discussions.
But I listen to him WARY that he is a NeverTrumper and ignore the subtle injections he uses.
He's not a NeverTrumper If he's voting for the President. He doesn't care for the guy’s personality. Fine. Some won't. I understand that. But he WANTS Donald Trump to win. And Iikes what he has done.
I understand your point. Ben Shapiro liked Romney back when he ran against Obama and defended him against the vicious attacks from the Clinton/Obama camp.
Shapiro is openly religious and I believe that he admired Romney that he too didn’t hide his religious believes, despite the attacks.
Shapiro doesn’t seem to appreciate Romney‘s recent Anti-Trump stance though.
He uses Romney as a foil of failure to explain why Republicans are voting for Trump. Romney is a loser, Republicans recognized that and decided they needed someone who is the opposite. Where Romney is a polite and meek loser, Trump is brash and aggressive winner. Romney is being held up as an example of what doesn't win.
I listen to him daily, but my chief gripe with him is how blind to how his brand of traditional conservatism is exactly why conservatives have been losing for 30 years. He is the reason for Trump. But he's too clueless to give up his safety blanket of an ideology.
Ben is a neocon edge-lord. He has to come out and be different no matter what. If his take is wrong he will keep maintaining its true, because his pride won’t allow him to admit otherwise.
He really pissed me off with that dumb comment about the old man agitator. Did he even watch the video and follow up? Nope, mean cops it is. Fuckin' asshole.
He acts like he is principled, but definitely isn’t.
He said for YEARS despite Bongino educating him and all the evidence present that Russian collusion was a hoax that he needed to see the evidence and the Mueller probe be completed. To re-iterate, he said we didn’t have enough evidence to make a conclusion.
When it came to the Stormy allegations against Trump, not once did he ask for evidence, he acted like it was 100% true without giving it a second thought.
I stopped listening to him awhile ago but did he ever recant on his tariff position where he said it was going to be awful and horrible only to get stumped by Trump? I doubt it.
Exactly. He WANTS President Trump to win and compliments him when he feels he deserves it but he obviously has issues with the President's personality which some will. That's perfectly fine. My parents don't like the President. They think he's just a cocky douche and haven't and don't care to see the other sides of him. But will still vote for him most likely.
The guy didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I would love to see the clip of him saying he will vote for Trump in 2020.
Ben Shapiro was nasty and hateful towards Corey Lewandowski. He white-knighted for Michelle Fields and called for Corey to be destroyed. Shapiro never apologized to Corey after videotape came out disproving what Fields alleged.
I like Shapiro. He is one of these rare guys who stick to their guns, no matter what. He has a huge following and is quite influential. He will vote for Trump in November and recommends the same to his listeners. At the same time, he reserves the right to criticize the president when he believes criticism is due. That is not bad. Everyone of us - including Donald Trump - is well advised to listen to our critics. Ben Shapiro is never nasty or hateful. He tries to make his case as good as he can. This earns my respect, even if I don't always agree with him.
I don't hate criticism of Trump. This is why I can listen to a lot of other content creators like Tim Pool, Styx, Razorfist, America Uncovered, Crowder, etc. Even Paul Joseph Watson criticizes Trump for his tweets.
For me personally, there is a difference between criticism and injecting NeverTrumpism.
When I listen to Shapiro, I get the sense that he does not just stop at criticism, he slowly tries to convert listeners to be NeverTrumpers down the line.
In that clip, if Shapiro criticized Trump and stopped at that, it is fine. But the dropping and contrasting with Romney unnecessarily is a mind injection that to me feels the same way how news readers inject TDS into their news.
It's a shame because Shapiro has intellect to break down things really well.
That's just me, I guess.
I listened to the whole 50 minutes of today's podcast from which this clip is taken.
Stunning, that you believe that Shapiro criticized Trump and stopped at it. That's simply not true. The whole show summarized in one simple sentence: Democrats in Congress are hateful morons!
What I mean is that in that criticism at Trump, if Shapiro stopped at that and did not inject Romney, it would have been fine.
I eventually listened to the whole vid as well, and I don't think he criticized Trump as a whole. Overall, a good vid. I do listen to Shapiro at times to mine for useful arguments to use in my political discussions. But I listen to him WARY that he is a NeverTrumper and ignore the subtle injections he uses.
He's not a NeverTrumper If he's voting for the President. He doesn't care for the guy’s personality. Fine. Some won't. I understand that. But he WANTS Donald Trump to win. And Iikes what he has done.
I understand your point. Ben Shapiro liked Romney back when he ran against Obama and defended him against the vicious attacks from the Clinton/Obama camp. Shapiro is openly religious and I believe that he admired Romney that he too didn’t hide his religious believes, despite the attacks. Shapiro doesn’t seem to appreciate Romney‘s recent Anti-Trump stance though.
He can't help but to be sneaky and underhanded.
It's the little beanie that makes him do it.
He uses Romney as a foil of failure to explain why Republicans are voting for Trump. Romney is a loser, Republicans recognized that and decided they needed someone who is the opposite. Where Romney is a polite and meek loser, Trump is brash and aggressive winner. Romney is being held up as an example of what doesn't win.
I listen to him daily, but my chief gripe with him is how blind to how his brand of traditional conservatism is exactly why conservatives have been losing for 30 years. He is the reason for Trump. But he's too clueless to give up his safety blanket of an ideology.
Nope, he's a turbocuck and a screeching little SJW loser.
Look up the Michelle Fields incident, and you'll see that he believes facts care about his precious feefees.
He’s been so bad lately. His interview with Rogan was enraging.
Ben is a neocon edge-lord. He has to come out and be different no matter what. If his take is wrong he will keep maintaining its true, because his pride won’t allow him to admit otherwise.
He really pissed me off with that dumb comment about the old man agitator. Did he even watch the video and follow up? Nope, mean cops it is. Fuckin' asshole.
He acts like he is principled, but definitely isn’t.
He said for YEARS despite Bongino educating him and all the evidence present that Russian collusion was a hoax that he needed to see the evidence and the Mueller probe be completed. To re-iterate, he said we didn’t have enough evidence to make a conclusion.
When it came to the Stormy allegations against Trump, not once did he ask for evidence, he acted like it was 100% true without giving it a second thought.
I stopped listening to him awhile ago but did he ever recant on his tariff position where he said it was going to be awful and horrible only to get stumped by Trump? I doubt it.
Exactly. He WANTS President Trump to win and compliments him when he feels he deserves it but he obviously has issues with the President's personality which some will. That's perfectly fine. My parents don't like the President. They think he's just a cocky douche and haven't and don't care to see the other sides of him. But will still vote for him most likely.
When a guy can perform like trump you gotta let it go. Now if was di nothing Pelosi, different story
Exactly!
The guy didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I would love to see the clip of him saying he will vote for Trump in 2020.
Ben Shapiro was nasty and hateful towards Corey Lewandowski. He white-knighted for Michelle Fields and called for Corey to be destroyed. Shapiro never apologized to Corey after videotape came out disproving what Fields alleged.
Good. Shapiro. Crowder. Gutfield. Trump is winning a lot of these NeverTrump votes.
What did Rogan say?
He's mentioned a couple of times that he wants the President to win.
Yeah so he can keep screeching about orange man bad.
Yup he picked around the perimeter of trumps campaign.