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I was discussing this with a doctor friend of mine, and they made the claim that this study, however, only shows HCQ is effective in a culture in a lab setting. They said many drugs fail getting FDA approval because they do not work in a patient the same way.
I don't have a response to that. It's a good point.
It's true that the body operates different than in a lab. This is why HCQ typically is administered with an antibiotic and zinc in humans, to achieve this.
Disease experts around the world support HCQ. Countries that use HCQ have much lower mortality rates than those that don't. (Data is a bit skewed because places like India have a much younger population), but there are 50+ studies that show HCQ when administered early reduces fatality.
Counter him by saying that chloroquine has been shown to accumulate in the organs mostly effected by Covid for up to 40 days. That trumps his argument. They find it accumulated in lung tissue especially. It works.
if sufficient blood concentration can be obtained... then it should work "in vivo" (in the living) just as it was shown to work "in vitro" (in culture/ test tube).
We have found that sufficient blood concentration is very easy to obtain safely.
We have learned that the main mechanism of action is stopping viral replication by bringing zinc into the cells. That is why a zinc supplement 50mg or 100mg is part of the protocol.
It works....but wont save you if you are already in multisystem organ failure (nothing does)...so earliest possible use is advised.
a prophylactic is NOT the same thing as a vaccine. Taking HCQ as a prophylactic will not make you immune to anything. It just means that while you're taking it, it becomes harder for the infection to take hold. If you stop taking HCQ, you'd lose that benefit.
This study was done in vitro. There's oftentimes a huge difference sometimes between studies of cells on a petri dish and transferring that to animal and humans
THAT SAID.... The mounting evidence and testimony of HCQ studies and the huge effort to censor those things is definitely becoming concerning to me...
What bothers me is that studies are being deleted from world-leading virologists. In France, 10 years of Didier Raoult's work has been blackholed and they even banned hqc for any other use, even when it's been safe for arthritis and malaria since the 70s. Here is a study from the countries that use hates QC compared to the countries that don't ... it's fucking mind boggling what's going on with the censorship. Big Pharma knows that HQC is over the target and they're doing everything to suppress it because they see a trillion dollars going out the door.
Keep in mind a point was made then. It's not that they are saying the drug doesn't work. It's that this drug and the combo and others like it are dangerous.
Which makes this statement then even worse.
One of the claims from the WHO when they "researched" it said they had to stop it because of dangers to the health of the test subjects.
Yea the drug isn't that dangerous, it's a massive lie because they know the more deaths the more they can pin on Trump (ironically enough, most deaths come from states where dem governors pushed covid patients into old people homes)
It's one of the most used drugs around the world. Does is it have negative side effects? Absolutely, but it's rare. Is it more dangerous than most the shit big pharma pedals on your television? Absolutely not. In fact, for old people, the risk is far lower than it is of getting the virus
False positives tests for the WuFlu make the tests essentially worthless
They are cooking the books on both cases and deaths. 150,000 people have not died of the ChinaFlu. Look at how much deaths from all other causes have dropped dramatically.
If Hydroxychloroquine is even 50% effective, and was not being used due to the disinformation campaign run by Fauci, WHO, et al, then they should be held legally responsible for more than 250,000 of the 500,000 worldwide deaths due to covid 19.
Time for the 2020 Nuremberg trials starring the WHO, Fauci, Cuomo, Whitmer, Gates, Dorsey, and all the others involved in this disinformation campaign to scare people away from a completely safe, cheap, and effective treatment for covid 19.
Link to the actual article that this is a pic of? I keep seeing a link to the article referenced within the article but I’d like to see the full article in electronic form that says Fauci said these things.
The only reason Fauci and some others are poo-pooing hcq is because we don't have enough of it. The Kodak move is great and hopefully APIs for HCQ will ramp up soon.
Does anyone remember the pic or URL to the list showing all the studies supporting HCQ? Need to help debunk the fake news to red pill some people. They believe it's dangerous and kills people and one chart with all the studies numbered and the size and outcome of each debunked it but I don't know where it is!
Please enlighten us why this wouldn't work in another SARS Coronavirus variant such as Covid 19? Oh, thats right your a moron and cant. So, maybe look into what Europe is doing and country's like India, Vietnam, and some other Asian Countrys. They are using HCQ and Zinc.
You’re either a shill or ignorant of how viruses work. A mutation most of the time is a change of the antigens on the outside of the virus, requiring different antibodies to defeat it. HCQ works with an entirely different mechanism which would require this coronavirus to stop being a coronavirus to survive it
https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
Here's a .gov link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
Anyone have an archive of the link in case the Left tries to memory hole this? I'm at work so I can't do it myself.
Thank you.
You can download the full pdf of the paper from the link for free.
Still at work so I can't but I wanted to make sure backups were made.
Thanks.
I was discussing this with a doctor friend of mine, and they made the claim that this study, however, only shows HCQ is effective in a culture in a lab setting. They said many drugs fail getting FDA approval because they do not work in a patient the same way.
I don't have a response to that. It's a good point.
Your response can be the numerous doctors that have given it to patients and seen improvement.
So it works in lab settings, and we have evidence it works the same way in people.
One anecdote is a one-off, but hundreds or thousands of anecdotes are data.
Used this, thanks!
It's true that the body operates different than in a lab. This is why HCQ typically is administered with an antibiotic and zinc in humans, to achieve this.
Disease experts around the world support HCQ. Countries that use HCQ have much lower mortality rates than those that don't. (Data is a bit skewed because places like India have a much younger population), but there are 50+ studies that show HCQ when administered early reduces fatality.
Used this, thanks!
https://c19study.com
Link to 65 studies on Hydroxychloroquine for anyone who wants to argue it’s not effective.
Nice site. Gives both sides. It's not all positive nor all negative. I shared with her. Thanks.
Counter him by saying that chloroquine has been shown to accumulate in the organs mostly effected by Covid for up to 40 days. That trumps his argument. They find it accumulated in lung tissue especially. It works.
if sufficient blood concentration can be obtained... then it should work "in vivo" (in the living) just as it was shown to work "in vitro" (in culture/ test tube).
We have found that sufficient blood concentration is very easy to obtain safely.
We have learned that the main mechanism of action is stopping viral replication by bringing zinc into the cells. That is why a zinc supplement 50mg or 100mg is part of the protocol.
It works....but wont save you if you are already in multisystem organ failure (nothing does)...so earliest possible use is advised.
I'm keeping this in the holster for their response if they have one. Thanks.
I don't see Phony Tony's name anywhere.
Phony Tony was the director the NIH at the time.
Yes but I didn't see where it says this was a NIH study.
I just saw the "authors" names and no affiliation.
Let's tie this fraud to that rocket launching the next Mars mission.
We've known this from day 1. He's known this from day 1. The virus is real, the damage is almost all political.
I don't see why anybody on our side in government can't do their fucking homework, find these things like we do, and shove it in his face publicly.
CNN:
TRUMP SUPPORTER threatens to BLOW UP DR. FAUCI
Why are TRUMP SUPPORTERS so VIOLENT?!
Sew the wind, inherit the whirlwind leftists. They have yet to see us beyond annoyed yet.
We need a link to this. It needs to be spread far and wide.
https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
Anyone have an archive of the link in case the Left tries to memory hole this? I'm at work so I can't do it myself.
“Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is an emerging disease that was first reported in Guangdong Province, China, in late 2002.”
Why does every disease and virus seem to originate in China then spread to the world? Fuck China
In the title!
https://www.nw-connection.com/?p=6147
This is an Opinion article.
Fauci never said, "HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine". He also never called it a "wonder drug".
You’re not wrong.
That journal has zero connection to Fauci, it’s own by a British company
It's an election year virus so it won't cure people but after the election we can take it.
Why this guy is still blabbing to us on TV and not behind bars eludes me.
Fauci is a Fraud
He wants a piece of that Bill Gates vaccine money.
A couple things:
a prophylactic is NOT the same thing as a vaccine. Taking HCQ as a prophylactic will not make you immune to anything. It just means that while you're taking it, it becomes harder for the infection to take hold. If you stop taking HCQ, you'd lose that benefit.
This study was done in vitro. There's oftentimes a huge difference sometimes between studies of cells on a petri dish and transferring that to animal and humans
THAT SAID.... The mounting evidence and testimony of HCQ studies and the huge effort to censor those things is definitely becoming concerning to me...
What bothers me is that studies are being deleted from world-leading virologists. In France, 10 years of Didier Raoult's work has been blackholed and they even banned hqc for any other use, even when it's been safe for arthritis and malaria since the 70s. Here is a study from the countries that use hates QC compared to the countries that don't ... it's fucking mind boggling what's going on with the censorship. Big Pharma knows that HQC is over the target and they're doing everything to suppress it because they see a trillion dollars going out the door.
https://c19study.com/
Follow the money is usually advised in any controversial topic.
Aaaaaaand Health Canada just approuved expensive Remsividir for covid, who would have guessed?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/remdesivir-approved-to-help-treat-canadians-with-severe-symptoms-of-covid-19-1.5042110
Here look at this <Men in Black flashy thing>. Nothing to see here, citizen. Move along.
This was posted about a month and half ago.
Keep in mind a point was made then. It's not that they are saying the drug doesn't work. It's that this drug and the combo and others like it are dangerous.
Which makes this statement then even worse.
One of the claims from the WHO when they "researched" it said they had to stop it because of dangers to the health of the test subjects.
Yea the drug isn't that dangerous, it's a massive lie because they know the more deaths the more they can pin on Trump (ironically enough, most deaths come from states where dem governors pushed covid patients into old people homes)
It's one of the most used drugs around the world. Does is it have negative side effects? Absolutely, but it's rare. Is it more dangerous than most the shit big pharma pedals on your television? Absolutely not. In fact, for old people, the risk is far lower than it is of getting the virus
and yet somehow they'll tell you death is better than side effects.
Spread far and wide pedes. Shove this in Fauci worshippers faces.
At least we can take comfort in the fact that this overhyped virus ceases to exist in 96.5 days.
Didn't you get the memo? Past actions only count when exposing "racism." Otherwise, move on...nothing to see here.
HCQ can end Mask Tyranny, which has become more of a plague than the virus ever was.
Why won't anyone ask him about this? He has to respond.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!
SERIOUSLY!
If Hydroxychloroquine is even 50% effective, and was not being used due to the disinformation campaign run by Fauci, WHO, et al, then they should be held legally responsible for more than 250,000 of the 500,000 worldwide deaths due to covid 19.
Time for the 2020 Nuremberg trials starring the WHO, Fauci, Cuomo, Whitmer, Gates, Dorsey, and all the others involved in this disinformation campaign to scare people away from a completely safe, cheap, and effective treatment for covid 19.
He isn't. The media worships him so he's letting him hang himself.
For hcq before he was against it.
Against cloth masks before he was for them.
Don’t listen to any experts on anything. Do your own research and live your life to your own conclusions.
The man simply needs to be locked up.
I hate this cocksucker and everything he says.
AMAZING!!!
The sad thing is he can flip-flop and lie with impunity and never be held accountable ... yet
Here's the actual link if anyone is interested: https://www.nw-connection.com/?p=6147
The title is disingenuous. He's not an author on the study. That said, he a narcissistic prick who is sacrificing people's health for politics. Evil.
So I found the article, seems interesting. Not disputing it by any means, but that journal isn’t run by the NIH
It’s run by BioMed Central, a british company
That was then, before the plandemic was orchestrated fully.
Link to the actual article that this is a pic of? I keep seeing a link to the article referenced within the article but I’d like to see the full article in electronic form that says Fauci said these things.
Those poor as assholes in every state that banes this drug need to be put on trial for negligent homicide and hung on life tv.
Dr.Fucky is a deep state stooge time to expose him for what he is.
The only reason Fauci and some others are poo-pooing hcq is because we don't have enough of it. The Kodak move is great and hopefully APIs for HCQ will ramp up soon.
Archive that sheeeit.
Does anyone remember the pic or URL to the list showing all the studies supporting HCQ? Need to help debunk the fake news to red pill some people. They believe it's dangerous and kills people and one chart with all the studies numbered and the size and outcome of each debunked it but I don't know where it is!
Covid19Crusher on twitter has them
Maybe this one? https://c19study.com/
Link please OP
In the title silly
Please enlighten us why this wouldn't work in another SARS Coronavirus variant such as Covid 19? Oh, thats right your a moron and cant. So, maybe look into what Europe is doing and country's like India, Vietnam, and some other Asian Countrys. They are using HCQ and Zinc.
Because the flu mutates too quickly for a vaccine to have long term effects. Next question?
NEXT!!
You’re either a shill or ignorant of how viruses work. A mutation most of the time is a change of the antigens on the outside of the virus, requiring different antibodies to defeat it. HCQ works with an entirely different mechanism which would require this coronavirus to stop being a coronavirus to survive it
It only works on CoV-SARS-01 and not CoV-SARS-02?
Do you have any evidence of that?
Dr. Simone Gold said they are 78% the same.