Imagine my surprise when I pulled up to the McDonalds drive-thru right outside post, rolling down my window to pay, and staring at my surly-ass platoon sergeant.
Lol guy was going through his third divorce, getting QMP’ed (purged) in the Obama-era drawdown, and started sleeping in a cot at company. Started giving no fucks, moved his barbell set into the office and bought a puppy that shit everywhere.
Not only is it not illegal, but as far as I'm aware, nobody has challenged the validity of of these clauses in an employment contract. I'm not saying a tort judge will decide in the employee's favor, but they might. We just don't know.
Unlikely that anyone will sue to keep their job at Uber, Lyft, or Dominos. These clauses are just to keep the companies from getting sued if an employee does use a weapon on the job.
They better be careful with that “we prohibit” language. Uber drivers are independent contractors. Uber is pretty limited in what they can tell you you can and cannot have in your own vehicle. They like to play both sides; get the tax advantage of calling drivers independent contractors while treating them like employees. Uber is a filthy company. All gig app companies are filthy crooks.
I like the smell of "mass arbitration" in the morning, which Uber has already suffered from.
Mass arbitration takes advantage of the asymmetry under CA and JAAMS rules where the individual pays $250 to file an arbitration and the company pays $10,000 to defend it.
Multiply that by a lot of drivers, Patreon patrons, etc, it can get quite interesting.
I read the language. Seems to me the only thing enforceable is the company that says don't have your gun with you on company property. Even then they have to find it.
Right! That was my point. Company property would only pertain like if he has to go to the office for some reason. Other than that they won't even try to enforce this. The only way they'd ever find out somebody was packing is a situation like this where they have to defend themselves, or if someone commits a crime which I think they'd at least make sure they aren't working at the time.
Anybody defending themselves could cough up $250 to start the arbitration process over wrongful termination, and the company has to pay $10,000 to defend themselves. I think they'd kiss ass to settle before going to arbitration. Meaning their silly rule is entirely unenforceable; it's just optics.
I believe he meant "weapons" are banned, not the application itself. Unless they are giving me a car with insurance, they can kindly go fuck themselves when someone is defending there life and property.
You would have been in good hands when I was a driver, pede. I remember getting pick ups from drunk girls who have passed out in my car. I was like imagine what a dirty immigrant with bad intentions would do in a situation like that. YOUR DRIVER IS MOHAMMED
It's not immigrants, it's the same 20-40 yr old white woman throwing poop at police that are the most dangerous drivers. Lesbians can be rapists, believe me.
Many states have reciprocal CCW agreements. My Ohio CCW is good for most states, and removes restrictions on weaponry. I think there's... maybe 12 that I can't carry in? Let's see... I can't carry in Hawaii, California, Oregon, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Maryland. So 11. I am kind of shocked I can carry in Washington and not Minnesota. A nice free way to check: https://go.usconcealedcarry.com/concealed-carry-maps
“Hey, we know that you’re using your own car, your own gas, you pay for the maintenance, and you assume all financial responsibility for accidents, but you can’t have a gun when working for us.”
I read the language. It seems to me that the only enforcement they can do is the one company that says you can't have your gun with you on company property. Even then they have to find it.
Right! Exactly my point. It would be funny af if the companies got sued over this; the only possible scenario I can envision is they fire someone for having their own gun in their own car. Apparently there's an arbitration clause where the employee pays $250 and the company pays $10,000 to defend.
The company would never make up that $10,000. They would kiss ass, rehire and whatever else they had to do. The company makes money off that driver.
Uber and Lyft can get fucked if they think they can dictate a 'no weapons' clause in my own vehicle.
Yeah really I saw that at the end. That better not be how they try to get this guy.
There's nothing to "get". Violating employee guidelines is not illegal, at most they fire him which is pretty much expected at this point
Imagine losing your job for lawfully defending your life from an armed aggressor.
A buddy of mine almost had that happen.
I will give the man a job right here, right now. NO BS.
He's active duty. He already has a job.
This was just a job making a little fun money.
It's alright, he still has a job.
Most active duty military I know usually take up a second job on the weekends to make a little fun money.
Imagine my surprise when I pulled up to the McDonalds drive-thru right outside post, rolling down my window to pay, and staring at my surly-ass platoon sergeant.
Lol guy was going through his third divorce, getting QMP’ed (purged) in the Obama-era drawdown, and started sleeping in a cot at company. Started giving no fucks, moved his barbell set into the office and bought a puppy that shit everywhere.
You cannot get fired when you're not an employee.
Not only is it not illegal, but as far as I'm aware, nobody has challenged the validity of of these clauses in an employment contract. I'm not saying a tort judge will decide in the employee's favor, but they might. We just don't know.
Unlikely that anyone will sue to keep their job at Uber, Lyft, or Dominos. These clauses are just to keep the companies from getting sued if an employee does use a weapon on the job.
They better be careful with that “we prohibit” language. Uber drivers are independent contractors. Uber is pretty limited in what they can tell you you can and cannot have in your own vehicle. They like to play both sides; get the tax advantage of calling drivers independent contractors while treating them like employees. Uber is a filthy company. All gig app companies are filthy crooks.
I like the smell of "mass arbitration" in the morning, which Uber has already suffered from.
Mass arbitration takes advantage of the asymmetry under CA and JAAMS rules where the individual pays $250 to file an arbitration and the company pays $10,000 to defend it.
Multiply that by a lot of drivers, Patreon patrons, etc, it can get quite interesting.
Patreon just got hammered with that.
Indiegogo Settled Uber Settled Patreon is likely screwed
Legal Article: https://www.klgates.com/alertklg20-06-24-2020
I read the language. Seems to me the only thing enforceable is the company that says don't have your gun with you on company property. Even then they have to find it.
Company property? He's driving his own car.
Right! That was my point. Company property would only pertain like if he has to go to the office for some reason. Other than that they won't even try to enforce this. The only way they'd ever find out somebody was packing is a situation like this where they have to defend themselves, or if someone commits a crime which I think they'd at least make sure they aren't working at the time.
Anybody defending themselves could cough up $250 to start the arbitration process over wrongful termination, and the company has to pay $10,000 to defend themselves. I think they'd kiss ass to settle before going to arbitration. Meaning their silly rule is entirely unenforceable; it's just optics.
Uber is banned, in Austin, and Lyft's policy is they "ask" people not to have weapons.
Not banned anymore
Yea Uber is alive and well in Austin.
Buddy of mine Ubers there a lot to make a little extra money.
I believe he meant "weapons" are banned, not the application itself. Unless they are giving me a car with insurance, they can kindly go fuck themselves when someone is defending there life and property.
What did they get banned for?
Mostly local politics involving local taxis and city funded transportation. In the end they allowed Uber to work there.
Being Uber. Austin city council never allowed Uber to operate in the city limits cause it would hurt the mafi..., er I mean legitimate cab drivers.
Just say, "Please don't rape me". Problem solved.
I'll say it with 40SW.
You would have been in good hands when I was a driver, pede. I remember getting pick ups from drunk girls who have passed out in my car. I was like imagine what a dirty immigrant with bad intentions would do in a situation like that. YOUR DRIVER IS MOHAMMED
It's not immigrants, it's the same 20-40 yr old white woman throwing poop at police that are the most dangerous drivers. Lesbians can be rapists, believe me.
You get it.
Most drivers I know are armed.
Many states have reciprocal CCW agreements. My Ohio CCW is good for most states, and removes restrictions on weaponry. I think there's... maybe 12 that I can't carry in? Let's see... I can't carry in Hawaii, California, Oregon, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Maryland. So 11. I am kind of shocked I can carry in Washington and not Minnesota. A nice free way to check: https://go.usconcealedcarry.com/concealed-carry-maps
“Hey, we know that you’re using your own car, your own gas, you pay for the maintenance, and you assume all financial responsibility for accidents, but you can’t have a gun when working for us.”
Get fucked, Uber and Lyft
I read the language. It seems to me that the only enforcement they can do is the one company that says you can't have your gun with you on company property. Even then they have to find it.
His car wasn’t their property while he was working for them.
Right! Exactly my point. It would be funny af if the companies got sued over this; the only possible scenario I can envision is they fire someone for having their own gun in their own car. Apparently there's an arbitration clause where the employee pays $250 and the company pays $10,000 to defend.
The company would never make up that $10,000. They would kiss ass, rehire and whatever else they had to do. The company makes money off that driver.