Reread what I wrote: initiation of violence -- meaning, against the innocent -- is not cool.

Real self-defense (such as from a knife-wielding spouse) is a whole 'nother ballgame for either sex.

Physical punishment is a fine line to walk -- because (can confirm both as a target and from professional experience) it too often escalates into abuse and domestic violence -- though I agree that children need to learn consequences from an early age.

If men-pedes want to uphold traditional male/female roles, though, as many here say they do, then it's especially important for those men to be not just providers for but protectors of the innocent lives in their care. Just saying.