If you live in the city get a reverse osmosis system. It's just for drinking water and making ice cubes. But that will remove everything but h20. The only downside it's not very efficient. I think for every gallon it makes of RO it will wast at least 2
My personal well has naturally occurring fluoride in the water. How did the idea of fortifying water with fluoride come about, you ask? People started to wonder why certain locales had good teeth. It's pretty much the same deal with iodized salt.
This reminds me of a study that was used to justify dispensing aluminum production waste into drinking water. Cheney and gang made billions selling toxic waste to municipalities all over the country. Brush your fucking teeth and dont eat candy or drink soda.
They make amazing water filters these days. I bought a gravity filter for my mom as she has a few medical disorders. They filter out everything. Heavy metals. Fluoride. Any microbe. And it’s the most amazing tasting water you will ever drink.
I actually would want a filter--not so much for the additions but because I dislike the taste of my tap water--but since i live in an apartment I'm pretty sure that kind of add-on isn't allowed. Is there something I could do that's apartment-friendly?
The one I use is a counter top version that has two basins that stack. The lower is the part where the filter drips into with the spigot and the top has the filters in it and gets filled up and set on top. It takes up the space of a culligan water jug. I believe it works at least in part by capillary action/hydrogen bonding properties of h20.
I put in a reverse osmosis system at the end of last year, I found it to be not too hard as I am ok with building things and tools. The kit I got had everything you need for less than $200. It does take up space under your sink or you can put it in another cupboard and run the tubing to the faucet. I added a line to my ice maker. I just changed the 6-month filters last night and the first stage was brown so it got a lot of dirt out first thing. I also find that I drink more water now. This is the brand I got, the filters are not too expensive. https://www.expresswater.com/pages/ro-alkaline
"I have an RO filter that gets down to 1-2ppm of dissolved solids, and on top of that I boil it. However, I have noticed more de-calcification on my teeth, and you really need some dissolved minerals. I've found that it's actually really difficult to remineralize water unfortunately, so I've been considering going back to bottled water. They do have remineralization drops but that's a hassle and defeats the cost benefits over bottled water. "
Undersink fluoride filtration - price ranges up to $200
Countertop fluoride filtration - prices ranges up to $150
Reverse Osmosis
3a) Undersink - prices range up to $500, UV filtration attachments available
3b) Countertop - prices ranges up to $200
Send me a message for the brand I use. I don't want to make it seem i'm outright shilling.
Water coolers/ water dispensary delivery
run of the mill office water coolers - main issue is just having to refill the 5 gallon jugs every time you're done with them.
Gallon jugs from the store
Cheap, but it'll be a weekly grocery item list. Lots of plastic waste
As far as taste and quality goes, the water cooler option is by the far the best. There are self service water cooler refill stations that uses UV filtration which is by far the best way to eliminate any bacteria. Costco in my area has it for $6.50 a bottle for delivery, plus other delivery charges. There's delivery services available for residential too.
Faucet filtration is good for immediate use but you'll have to deal with any city water issues you may have which includes possible bacteria/germs. If going this route, you would want to prepare "batches" of your water. 1) run fluoride filtered water through containers 2) add drops of iodine to kill bacteria 3) boil the water to kill bacteria for extra redundancy 4) and repour back into containers. Just ends up as a big hassle just to never leave your house.
Getting rid of fluoride is the easy process, but having to deal with the bacteria from common water pollution is a whole other issue.
These refill stations are in my opinion the best. It just depends whats available in your area, and what water reports are available to you. It'll also depend on how you feel about refilling the 5 gal jugs that end up weighing 42 lbs each. Let's say you're refilling 4 jugs each week. Yeah, that adds up in your maintenance.
My RO filter get the water to 1-2ppm of dissolved solids, which is very, very pure. On top of that, I boil it. However, I have noticed more de-calcification on my teeth, and you really need some dissolved minerals. I've found that it's actually really difficult to remineralize water unfortunately, so I've been considering going back to bottled water. They do have remineralization drops but that's a hassle and defeats the cost benefits over bottled water.
The downside of bottled water is as you said, you need to replace the 6 gallon jug, which for me is every few days. Also, the flow rate of the water is not good and you have to bend down to reach it. There's also the cost. It adds up to be more expensive than RO water, although maybe cheaper than RO water with remineralization drops. Oh, and of course you have to trust the water company to appropriately filter the water as well as sanitize the jugs.
It depends on usage I think. The 10 stage or the fancy 16 stage filtration predicates on using oxidation (and other pass bys) of the mineral ions to be removed from the finished product. I'm by no means an expert on the actual chemical process of oxidation, but common sense would tell me that if you're going to filter out unwanted substances in your finished product, those same unwanted substances are going to be contained by the filter. From product manuals, most filter lives are around 1-3 years. UV filtration on the other hand are by LED mechanisms, which are 30,000-50,000 hours (kinda like LED monitors which vary 30k-50k hours). I'd say, you're looking at every 2-3 years for filter replacement, 4-5 years for the UV led bulbs.
It is an interesting question though. Would it be planned obsolescence for the filters to run out of life usage (for re-ups in company profits) or is there more to the merit of the actual chemistry science to it. I never really looked into that one, I'd suspect itd prolly take a good while to research through a good chunk of chemistry textbooks on the nuisances of oxidation.
Flouride works on teeth. that's why they put it in a tray at your doctors. Florida and shampoo work the same. They are topical. no one says shampoo will wash your hair by drinking it. They want it to pass over your teeth but it is a stupid way to do it. I use floride toothpaste as well but stopped drinking flouride my whole life by accident.
PSA: watch the docu “the fluoride deception” by Bryson. It’s also a book of the same name. TLDR is that the pre Hiroshima Manhattan project and aluminium industry post war generated and still generate massive amounts of fluoride as a waste by product and some evil genius decided they could get rid of it by persuading municipalities to actually buy their waste and dump it in the water.
Grew up on well water, now use city water. Do not feel different. More conservative than ever. I genuinely dislike fluoride fags. I also like my teeth.
Harvard released a study semi recently proving an association with increased flouride levels and lower IQ
“Fluoride seems to fit in with lead, mercury, and other poisons that cause chemical brain drain,” Grandjean says. “The effect of each toxicant may seem small, but the combined damage on a population scale can be serious, especially because the brain power of the next generation is crucial to all of us.”
I’d get a fluoride filter for your wife if she is pregnant or if you have children. It’s no bueno for a developing brain. It’s not going to make you retarted, granted, but likely shaves a few IQ points.
On Point Pede. See the links on Christopher Bryson and The Fluoride Deception below. Spread it far and wide, we must all do our part to end water fluoridation in the US. It's been doing the opposite of making us great. It's been making us weak, sick, and dumb.
Here's an excellent book on the history of Fluoridation in the US, and the junk science behind it, by Award Winning Investigative Journalist Christopher Bryson, formerly of the BBC.
Very, very important book.
Here's an interview with Christopher Bryson. 42 min, it's important Pedes.
This is the real deal, not some half baked conspiracy theory. Bryson is very serious Journalist, and the historical facts, as well as their suppression, must continue to come to light. This is essential to our mission here at thedonald.win
Remember that if you're being exposed to other Halides (chlorine, bromine, bromide, fluoride, you need to supplement Iodine/Iodide. Lugol's is great, Iodoral which is essentially Logul's in Tablet Form, is fantastic. These Halides displace iodine/iodide in your organs, like the Thyroid. They disrupt endocrine function, and can act as potent poisons, causing many issues.
Your thyroid is designed to absorb iodine, but will pick up other halides as they are so similar. Supplementing Iodine will flush out these halides, and restore, or improve thyroid and other organ functions. This is not medical advice. Seek advice from a Professional who is experienced with Thyroid Flushing, and iodine supplementation protocols. Get your levels tested, Iodine is chronically deficient in a large percentage of the population, as is magnesium. It's why the Government mandated the iodizing of table salt. Huge areas of the US don't have it in the soil.
There's a correlation with fluoridation in water and Alzheimers, as well as other later life cognitive impairment diseases. The fluoride bonds with metal like aluminum as they have strong affinity, and allows those metals to cross into the brain. Many of The Greatest Generation were the first to be affected, as they gave their steel, and copper cookware to the War Effort/WW2, and had said cookwares replaced with aluminum products. They kept that aluminum, and many people after the war, and for decades thereafter bought new aluminum cookware, because it was cheap. Once they initiated the fluoridation programs, simply boiling a pot of spaghetti would cause a chemical reaction, with the flouride ions in the water ripping aluminum ions into solution, which many Americans ingested, for many years. Many are still doing it today, this may include whoever is reading this. The effects are cumulative, and it effects some people far more than others, but it is toxic in all of us.
There is also a direct correlation with increased fluoride intake, and brain damage in children. This is why there was recently a reduction across the US by participating Municipalities, to reduce the ppm. The studies showed brain damage in children at the levels most municipalities were adding.
It is not only a potent neurotoxin, but it displaces iodine, which is essential in brain development. There are numerous long term studies which show that higher iodine intake is directly correlated with the highest IQ populations on the planet, like the Japanese. Inadequate iodine is linked to mental retardation. For all you potential parents, or those considering more children, this is critical.
Please at least watch the interview above, it's vital to our mission. We must all be healthy, and at our best, in order to Make America Great Again!
Does anyone else notice the same types of mainstream media that mocks people concerned about covid1984 shenanigans are the same types of people that scoff at fluoride comcern?
Fluro has been a 60 odd year con.
Brought to you by the same scum/globalists that said:
“Butter is bad for you!”
“Beef is bad for you!”
“Saturated fat is bad for you!”
“Salt is bad for you!”
In some cases they simply want us consuming products they make, so they tell us the competition, or the natural alternatives are bad. Nothing matters but the Earnings Statements, and profits, so they promote bad science. That's exactly what happened with fluoride.
The original studies came from the Mellon Institute. They would create Industrial Science Studies on demand, for whoever paid them to do it, including the desired outcome. In the case of Fluoride, ALCOA, the largest aluminum conglomerate on the planet at the time, had a major disposal problem with sodium fluoride. It was contaminating ground water, and drinking water, and they were in serious Legal Trouble as a result of it. The solution was to create fake studies at the Mellon Institute. This was accomplished under the direction of the Andrew Mellon, Founder of the Mellon Institute, who was also the Founder of ALCOA at the time. Mellon at the time was also the US Treasury Secretary, which made him the head of US Public Health. He engineered the scheme to dump his industrial waste into US water systems as a disposal mechanism, and made profits off the dumping. True story.
Hard to believe that many people could be duped? All those Mayors, Governors, Dentists, Doctors, and Elected Officials? Look around you right now. Look at all these idiots with their masks. Look at who wants to profits and control from vaccines. It's the same sociopath megalomaniacs, playing the same games, it's just a different time period. Most people are conformist sheep.
This horse shit science would have been debunked a long time ago, but the US Government and the Atomic Energy Commission intervened, on grounds of National Security. Watch the interview. Read the articles. Read the book.
This is Actionable Intelligence Pedes. So do something about it, join the fight. Protect yourselves, and your families, and get involved with spreading the facts.
Awaken, We Rise!
Sounds like you drank the fluoride since you can’t tell the difference between toxic in small doses and everything being toxic when consumed exhorbitantly.
Well, the Nazis experimented with adding flouride to the water supply to control people. It's a known that, flouride, when ingested over time, makes you more docile and compliant.
Not too long after that, the Soviets started doing it, and after that, we (western government) added flouride to our water supplies under the guise of public health and fighting tooth decay.
A lot of conspiracy theorists believe our government is doing it to keep people docile and compliant as well. I have my own theory that it's just chemical company lobbyists that convinced our government to do it. Flouride is expensive to dispose of properly. Instead of disposing of unwanted flouride, why not just convince them it's great for public health and sell it to them in bulk?
You sir, as a dental student, know that flouride is supposed to be applied directly to the teeth, not drink it like a beverage. Lol.
Lol, well ma'am but yes. I just imagine that some of it might get ingested, maybe not enough to be a big deal. I just can't believe that we'd use it so frequently if it could cause harm... Then again my mind is blown everyday.
General Ripper's obsession with fluoridation was a specific parody of the public positions of the John Birch Society at the time. It's sort of a lost bit of history.
I make it a point to watch that movie about once a year. You see something you previously missed with every watch. Some of the sarcasm and humor is really, really subtle.
well, no offense but the only one mentioning ions is you. there are other ways to clean water without adding toxic chemicals to it. thats all I'm saying.
Exactly. The dose makes the poison idea is bunk. If something is poison, its poison.
It doesn't get healthier or magically become good for you if you take less of it.
So many new studies have have shown negative consequences. 2019 (Iowan?) study showed a ~4 pt drop in IQ in kids with prenatal ingestion by mother. Boys had a worse drop compared to girls. It costs the US $1.12 per citizen. Other studies show no difference in dental health between countries with fluoridation and those without. We are spending $369 million a year for a pointless program that increasingly shows negative consequences. I formerly was an unbeliever until I looked at the data. Unfortunately our public health officials are fucking politicians not health experts and thinking critically gets you labeled.
They do the same with ethenol. Not that its a health thing, but it does little to curb pollution and raises the price and effort to create it. Yet they still mandate and subsidize it.
These scientists and doctors should lose their licenses. People have valid emotions that should be worked through. Psyc drugs can help people get started, but it’s personal work that makes the difference.
I was on lithium for three years. Part of five years where drugs and dosages were changes every month. Nothing truly helped till I went off it all and took initiative to change myself. My life was a mess from growing up in an unstable home. That’s not a disorder and it’s not an imbalance for no reason.
There is an epidemic of diagnosing people, prescribing them drugs, and not getting down to the real problem.
I agree. I also think people are quick to take a pill to "cure" the issue. I'm on absolutely no medications. I was on Lexi pro briefly after my divorce + then went cold turkey because I didn't want to have to rely on a pill to be happy.
I had to work through a lot of personal discomfort. I found gym time was very important. I had a lot of time to think and way better for it. I think sometimes people don't want to face that.
I will say I walked away from birth control pills back in October, and mental is state is more consistent. I've read a few articles of women saying similar things, less depression.
That’s another great point! Exercise is imperative for mood regulation and overall health.
I find it funny many people understand how exercise impacts the behavior of dogs. A tired dog will be better behaved and not destroy your couch. But this logic is lost on the human themselves.
Glad you worked through things. It is hard but it’s the only way.
One thing that tends to help people is to do something that helps others. For me it was volunteering with a greyhound retirement group. Responsibility outside yourself can help to get you doing something that feel like it matters.
I took it for 8 years. Thyroid stopped working now I get to take Thyroxine forever yay! The first year I had hand tremors so bad and was so drowsy I looked like SleepyJoe.
Sorry to hear that...thyroid issues suck. I was so sick on levo...till I found Stop the Thyroid Madness. Found a great doc, and have my life back on old school dessicated.
I think I put on over 50 pounds in 3 months and slept 20 hours a day it was horrible. Glad to hear you found a great doc that's so much harder than it sounds I know!
Used to be in 7up ... I think? Double checking to see if that was an urban legend ...
Yup - although not for a while now.
The product, originally named "Bib-Label Lithiated Lemon-Lime Soda", was launched two weeks before the Wall Street Crash of 1929. It contained lithium citrate, a mood-stabilizing drug, until 1948.
So I have bi-polar disorder and I take Lithium for it. It's a good drug for me, has helped me to not become a raving lunatic who gets arrested and thrown into the padded cell and stuff like that. But it DEFINITELY has a numbing effect. The idea that people who don't have documented mood disorders should be force-fed this shit is ludicrous. I wouldn't take it (and i didn't, for many, many years) unless it was absolutely necessary for me to function in society. If people are willing to accept this type of shit then fuck them they deserve the future that they seem to be clamoring for.
Yep and yep. I felt a bit like a sleepwalker on Lithium. Yes it absolutely modified the manic behaviour, but I was left with NO ups and downs and it definitely inhibits creativity. After it killed my thyroid I switched to something else and I have what I consider to be normal reactions again. But even talking about dosing entire populations with anything, via the ONE thing we cannot live without for longer than three days is a fucking dystopian nightmare.
Yeah man. Agree completely. My relationship with Lithium has been pretty good so far, but when you say that it inhibits creativity you are right on there. So far my body is tolerating it well. I had to put the creativity on the backburner for a minute because it used to consume me and i gotta make sure i focus on the nuts and bolts or i'll end up homeless or worse. These days I might not get praised for my creativity, but I do get praised for how steady I am. That's worth something too. I just wanna be the best man I can be for my community.
It worked for me beautifully until the thyroid problems. I was shit scared going off it though after being stable for so long. And yep correct, it took me 7 years living with my parents at age 38 onwards to do it. It's actually weird living as a stable person after the inherent drama's of the bipolar rollercoaster. I think that's why it's so difficult to get med compliant when you are bipolar because the manic rush IS both terrible and beautiful to behold. And it's nice to be part of the community rather than be at odds with it and feel like an alien. I am so happy for you =)
hey loverat it's so nice to hear something of your story. seems like we've had some similar experiences. yeah i get the regular blood tests but i'm aware of the potential for thyroid issues. might i ask what drug you switched to?
i am also happy for you that you have gotten to a place where you are stable and happy about it! I very much agree with your thoughts about being part of the community. Now if only I didn't live in an uber-liberal New England city! Oh well you can't have everything.
We have for sure! I went on Tegretol, which is an anti epileptic. It's working well for the mania but a weird side effect is tinnitus so I had to drop the dose, it's still there but not as bad and I can deal with it AND it's way better than literally being a mental case! But sometimes I miss those manic highs and it's uber productiveness factor. Hey, you might think your alone in an uber liberal city, but that's because they are the ones that make the noise and scream and cry. I'm betting there are a lot of people in your situation that don't speak out due to fear of being targeted. I cannot believe I just had to write that sentence - it's so wrong that people are scared to express their opinions in 2020 ffs.
Thanks for the info on Tegretol. Yeah the manic highs are something else. Mine were very intense to the point where i sometimes became borderline psychotic/delusional. But there was no better feeling than being in that state of mind. Energy. Joy. No Fear. I don't really miss it though, since I know how destructive it could be.
I have no doubt there are some people around me who share my political views. I've got to try harder to find them. And yes it is absolutely bonkers that our speech has been chilled! I actually cannot express my political opinions in group settings, not even with my family. I will immediately be branded.
Lithium was the last drug I tried for bipolar disorder. I was on many meds for many years. I legitimately do not remember the year I was on lithium, which is a real red flag for why someone would consider putting it in the water supply.
Take care of yourself and be well. It's a hard road but you can do it.
Got to do it don't ya, either that or throw in the towel and that's never an option =) You sound like you also remember when it wasn't fashionable to have a life threatening mental illness. I hear people say all the time they are bipolar, and most of them are lefties looking for a victim badge ;)
Sorry for late response, but yes I do remember that. Very hush hush. This has definitely changed over the years!
On one hand, it's great to be able to talk about it publicly (though I don't), on the other, with the social risk removed, suddenly everyone has problems they want to talk about, and most importantly, make you change your behavior to accomodate their problems. It's supposed to be a two way street, you know?
Awesome thank you =) I mean we'd all rather NOT take them but jesus being bipolar nearly lead to my death more times than I can remember. I didnt even get med compliant until age 40 and had to move in with my parents so I had some structure in my life. Many many wasted years self medicating with booze.
Drugs created for disorders mostly work. I had an ex bro in law who was severely bi-polar, and when he was feeling too good, he would stop the drug. He then went into a super severe psychosis. The body produces endorphins for drugs used for disorders to prevent addiction, but doesn't stop the problem when drugs are stopped. Imagine this drug in people who don't really need it. No endorphins created by the disorder would create horrible addictive zombies.
I did a study in college on the use of morphine.. People who had severe pain were able to handle morphine without becoming addicted to this drug, because of the endorphins. Imagine if this drug was put into the food supply, the horror is just unimaginable.
I completely agree. I resisted medication for almost a decade. I had some interesting times during that period, I won't lie, but I wasn't stable enough to be there for the people I cared about and who needed me. I still have a healthy skepticism about Psychiatry generally speaking, and I don't think anyone should take meds if they don't really need them, but I understand that some of us do have mood disorders and we can benefit from the right medication.
But as someone with Bi-Polar I, I think I represent less than 1% of the population, according to current statistics. The other 99% DO NOT NEED LITHIUM! Forcing it on them would only serve to dull and numb them, to no productive end.
So cool to hear thoughtful folks chiming in on this issue which is really an important one to me. Love and thanks to you pedes!
Thanks for sharing. Every person has some kind of challenge in their life but most won't admit it. The fact you acknowledge yours and take action is a fact that you will be better in life than most. God Bless, fellow Pede.
Thanks for listening! I'm new to the Donald.win (used to lurk on the reddit page a lot) but I really can't believe how much interaction, understanding, kindness and support I'm experienced in just a few weeks here. Just makes it that much more unbelievable when you think about how we pedes are demonized. Go with God, Lady_MaGa.
My city has been slowly going street by street and forcibly converting wells to city water over the past decade. Passing the full construction cost onto the homeowners too.
Your well is simply part of a large aquifer, the same place water companies get their water from. Having a private well doesn’t mean your insulated from anything.
Most fluoride is inline and guess what? A lot of domestic well water has natural fluoride in it. You’ll know because it’s part of normal water quality analysis you do every year, right? This is just nonsense conspiracy bs. Work in the water industry and as a water quality engineer.
Look at the herds of psychos burning down cities, karen's yelling at strangers, ghetto gun slinging larp marchers shooting kids, cops scared of mean words, and normies beating the shit out of eachother over masks that they dont even understand, and tell me how they're wrong.
Are you aware it goes deeper than just chemicals and they can effect populations mood with electromagnetic radiation too? There are easily searchable active denial microwave crowd control weapons, and what do you think they can do with sattelites?
People need to realize these people are absolutely evil and will stop at nothing to destroy us and our bodies. A monster is still a monster regardless of the title or coat he's wearing. STAND UP AND FIGHT.
"Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual's internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable." - Theodore Kaczynski
I drink Coca~Cola everyday and i don't wanna be secretly drinking baking soda and baby formula. I need to switch to Pepsi, I don't know which is the least sjw/blm but I think it's Pepsi.
I wouldn't trust any soda. I know at one point Pepsi was using engineered kidney cells from feotal tissues. They stopped, but soda is just bad for your health no matter what's in it.
No. They use an ingredient from the coca leaf for flavoring, that isn't cocaine. They used to use a process early on that left the cocaine in, so early Coca-Cola had cocaine in it - but a TON of products did.
When cocaine became illegal, they created a process to get the flavoring out of the coca leaf, and no cocaine. There is ONE processing plant in the US that's allowed to do it, and the cocaine is sold to Big Pharma, the Stephen Company plant in New Jersey.
The baby formula thing is a joke. Which is now stomped on.
thanks for the info on Coca-Cola pede but i was referring to 7-Up. I didn't think it ever had Lithium in it I thought it used to have Quinine. After a little research i discovered that 7-Up apparently did used to have some Lithium salts in it. Who knew?
From what I understand they purposefully put quinine in the tonic water to guard against malaria? Not sure if that's right but I heard that somewhere. It's funny that Trump is promoting a time-tested, super-safe drug that's been shown to be beneficial and they act like he's some kind of snake-oil salesman. This clown world is gonna make me blow my top!
Quinine was derived from a tree bark that grew in just one part of the world, and used to treat malaria and many other infirmities. IIRC,
Chloroquine is a synthetic form of Quinine, and Hydroxychloroquine is supposed to be a safer version of it.
I don't think that's true. I looked into mining company stocks on 2013, and one of the biggest deposits of lithium at that time was actually in America somewhere, also a couple American companies were the two biggest miners of it. That was in 2013, granted.
brita filters are not for rich people and they dont remove stuff like flouride. they have much more expensive filter systems in their garage or a private water source
There's a book called "Anathem" by Neal Stephenson, where the government puts something called allswell in food sold to the public. It makes people feel docile and arbitrarily satisfied. Fiction. Fiction.......
We are careening toward the land of the Pod People.
Will adding this shit to our water be enough to make us stand up for our freedoms? Truly stand up?
The fact that scientists and health officials are even thinking of this should be a red flag .. this is a trial balloon, meant to see how compliant the lockdowns and masks have made us.
It adds up. Somewhere like 42% of trannies commit suicide and a larger amount don't kill themselves but feel tremendous depression and regret because of the mutilation surgery and the imbalance of hormones. Considering the same people who are talking about drugging the water supply are the ones that want trannies to not only exist but to become an ever larger group of the populace, it makes sense. I'm sure Weimar Germany would have done the same thing if they had the ability.
To filter out things like floruide, chlorine, and lithium you need a reverse osmosis filtration system. They can be purchased by consumer, but not cheap.
There are ones you can get for less than $100 if you look on e.g. Amazon. Probably a good idea to get a TDS meter, too. Those cost less than $20. TDS in this case means total dissolved solids, that's one way to check how effective your filter is by testing the unfiltered water and comparing the reading to the filtered water.
Get your drinking water as clean as possible. Don't drink tap water at all and get yourself some water filtration systems if you can. Don't drink from regular plastic because BPA acts like estrogen when consumed.
Is that really true? I only use bottles to drink from and I even use them to boil water. I thought they were only a problem if they were left in the heat or something?
Plastic bottles are always breaking down. They break down faster in heat, but they never stop breaking down. If they are BPA bottles, like any bottled drink, then BPA will be present in trace amounts. Use BPA free plastics, metals, or glass.
Hmm interesting. Thanks for the tip. I’m not some conspiracy theorist but I really do believe that there is some kind of attempt to demasculinize the men by putting soy and other crap in our foods etc.. to make the country more feminine, egalitarian etc. Would you say that getting some kind of water filtration system is the best option to avoid these things or is BPA free bottles just as sufficient?
No, definitely get a reverse osmosis system if you can. The water shops and vending machines already do it so you can buy water from there until then. BPA free bottles are just to keep the BPA from seeping into your water.
Their answer is it will be a low enough dose not to be harmful, but anyone who has taken lithium knows you actually need a fuckload a day for it to be really effective as a head drug. But it does accumulate in the body, so to speak, so yeah, fuck you babies! They are insane.
So in all fairness, my friend works for a company that certifies scales for measurements, he informed me that most older water systems do not need to be maintained or "certified" like a gas pump is. To provide current product being purchased
That being said. He informed me that our local water system was working on a old bladder pressure system that was from the 50s/60s, the system would trigger at 1000lbs to dump fluoride into the "system". Well, he being a scale "guy" added the weights, the 1000lb scale/bladder didn't trigger until nearly 1400lbs. Which also throws off the flouride system, which is also looped into it.
I'm following his advice and never drinking public water again. Just throwing this out there. Some states may have different regulations, however I highly doubt it.
CHECK WITH YOU LOCALITY TO VERIFY HOW AND WHEN THAT SYSTEM WORKS, HOW OLD AND WHAT TYPE OF SCALE. YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THIS INFORMATION AS YOU PAY TAXES.
scales are funny systems, if 100lbs = 90lbs then 1000lbs could only weigh 600, there is really no rhyme or reason.
These continued systematic attempts to destroy this country are completely unopposed except for President Trump and a scant few others. It's unnerving how silent, passive, and compliant the general populace seems to be, not to mention the treacherous betrayal of the republicans with their continual silence and inaction.
Um... while I agree that we don't want these water companies sucking up all our water, Lake Michigan is nowhere near low. In fact, it is so high, that in certain areas there aren't any beaches left. Since the lakes are connected, I have to imagine that the rest of them are high as well.
If you take it for a mood disorder, your doctor should be monitoring your levels through regular blood tests. Too much is toxic and very harmful for anyone.
This is real I believe... I just moved back from Oregon (eastern BTW.. red blooded patriots Oregon) to New England after being away for 15 years and I can't believe all the pink haired dikes and trannys around that just didn't exist back then... Literally 80 percent of the population is gay.. i just kept thinking... what the fuck happened... now I know... its crazy
They can call for it all they want, but science doesn't know enough about lithium to put it into the water supply. Dosage has to be monitored closely by a doctor for people who take it by Rx for mental issues. There's no way you could dose a large population without some serious and immediate effects that would be visible to the untrained eye.
These people are cornered, they're being exposed everywhere and it appears things are going down behind the scenes we can't fathom. They are desperate enough to do this, look at the tyrants running numerous states right now and tell me otherwise.
pretty sure not keeping people locked in their houses and forcibly shuttering all public gathering places and watering holes would have the same effect, but what do I know.
Is that how they are getting people to bend to their will by adding mood altering drugs to our water?
Yup Fluoride.
I just stopped fluoride.
Harder rightwing than ever.
Not related. Lol maybe
How do you stop fluoride?
Move out of the city and get a house with a well?
PlumberPede here: don’t drink tap water. Unless you have a well or spring and have it tested periodically, don’t drink it.
What about bottled water from the store?
The biggest gripe I have with municipal water is the insane amount of chlorine that is added.
Why? Give us the details, please.
If you live in the city get a reverse osmosis system. It's just for drinking water and making ice cubes. But that will remove everything but h20. The only downside it's not very efficient. I think for every gallon it makes of RO it will wast at least 2
My personal well has naturally occurring fluoride in the water. How did the idea of fortifying water with fluoride come about, you ask? People started to wonder why certain locales had good teeth. It's pretty much the same deal with iodized salt.
This reminds me of a study that was used to justify dispensing aluminum production waste into drinking water. Cheney and gang made billions selling toxic waste to municipalities all over the country. Brush your fucking teeth and dont eat candy or drink soda.
They make amazing water filters these days. I bought a gravity filter for my mom as she has a few medical disorders. They filter out everything. Heavy metals. Fluoride. Any microbe. And it’s the most amazing tasting water you will ever drink.
Do you know any brands in particular?
Berkey water filters.
https://www.infowarsstore.com/alexapure-breeze I believe is the one my brother bought.
Get a reverse osmosis system installed.
Infowars has a good water filter.
Yes. Relatively simple undersink pressure flters dedicated to drinking/cooking are very important. Especially for kids.
www.Infowars.com
https://www.propurusa.com/-Propur-Fruit-Infused-Water-Filter-Pitcher_p_184.html
I actually would want a filter--not so much for the additions but because I dislike the taste of my tap water--but since i live in an apartment I'm pretty sure that kind of add-on isn't allowed. Is there something I could do that's apartment-friendly?
The one I use is a counter top version that has two basins that stack. The lower is the part where the filter drips into with the spigot and the top has the filters in it and gets filled up and set on top. It takes up the space of a culligan water jug. I believe it works at least in part by capillary action/hydrogen bonding properties of h20.
Install a reverse osmosis system on your drinking water.
I put in a reverse osmosis system at the end of last year, I found it to be not too hard as I am ok with building things and tools. The kit I got had everything you need for less than $200. It does take up space under your sink or you can put it in another cupboard and run the tubing to the faucet. I added a line to my ice maker. I just changed the 6-month filters last night and the first stage was brown so it got a lot of dirt out first thing. I also find that I drink more water now. This is the brand I got, the filters are not too expensive. https://www.expresswater.com/pages/ro-alkaline
"I have an RO filter that gets down to 1-2ppm of dissolved solids, and on top of that I boil it. However, I have noticed more de-calcification on my teeth, and you really need some dissolved minerals. I've found that it's actually really difficult to remineralize water unfortunately, so I've been considering going back to bottled water. They do have remineralization drops but that's a hassle and defeats the cost benefits over bottled water. "
Several ways:
Faucet Filtration
3a) Undersink - prices range up to $500, UV filtration attachments available
3b) Countertop - prices ranges up to $200
Send me a message for the brand I use. I don't want to make it seem i'm outright shilling.
Water coolers/ water dispensary delivery
Gallon jugs from the store
As far as taste and quality goes, the water cooler option is by the far the best. There are self service water cooler refill stations that uses UV filtration which is by far the best way to eliminate any bacteria. Costco in my area has it for $6.50 a bottle for delivery, plus other delivery charges. There's delivery services available for residential too.
Faucet filtration is good for immediate use but you'll have to deal with any city water issues you may have which includes possible bacteria/germs. If going this route, you would want to prepare "batches" of your water. 1) run fluoride filtered water through containers 2) add drops of iodine to kill bacteria 3) boil the water to kill bacteria for extra redundancy 4) and repour back into containers. Just ends up as a big hassle just to never leave your house.
Getting rid of fluoride is the easy process, but having to deal with the bacteria from common water pollution is a whole other issue.
I forgot to mention, self service water dispensaries are roughly $0.25/gal.
Primo water fluoride not detected
https://primowater.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Primo-Water-Quality-Report-2017.pdf
Ozarka fluoride not detected
https://www.ozarkawater.com/faq
https://www.nestle-watersna.com/asset-library/documents/o_eng.pdf
These refill stations are in my opinion the best. It just depends whats available in your area, and what water reports are available to you. It'll also depend on how you feel about refilling the 5 gal jugs that end up weighing 42 lbs each. Let's say you're refilling 4 jugs each week. Yeah, that adds up in your maintenance.
Where do you find out about these?
I have both an RO machine and a water cooler.
My RO filter get the water to 1-2ppm of dissolved solids, which is very, very pure. On top of that, I boil it. However, I have noticed more de-calcification on my teeth, and you really need some dissolved minerals. I've found that it's actually really difficult to remineralize water unfortunately, so I've been considering going back to bottled water. They do have remineralization drops but that's a hassle and defeats the cost benefits over bottled water.
The downside of bottled water is as you said, you need to replace the 6 gallon jug, which for me is every few days. Also, the flow rate of the water is not good and you have to bend down to reach it. There's also the cost. It adds up to be more expensive than RO water, although maybe cheaper than RO water with remineralization drops. Oh, and of course you have to trust the water company to appropriately filter the water as well as sanitize the jugs.
You seem to know some shit. Will 10 stage ultra carbon fully degermed ultraviolet light hit water store indefinitely in a dark cool place?
It depends on usage I think. The 10 stage or the fancy 16 stage filtration predicates on using oxidation (and other pass bys) of the mineral ions to be removed from the finished product. I'm by no means an expert on the actual chemical process of oxidation, but common sense would tell me that if you're going to filter out unwanted substances in your finished product, those same unwanted substances are going to be contained by the filter. From product manuals, most filter lives are around 1-3 years. UV filtration on the other hand are by LED mechanisms, which are 30,000-50,000 hours (kinda like LED monitors which vary 30k-50k hours). I'd say, you're looking at every 2-3 years for filter replacement, 4-5 years for the UV led bulbs.
It is an interesting question though. Would it be planned obsolescence for the filters to run out of life usage (for re-ups in company profits) or is there more to the merit of the actual chemistry science to it. I never really looked into that one, I'd suspect itd prolly take a good while to research through a good chunk of chemistry textbooks on the nuisances of oxidation.
Whole house water filtration system and non fluoride toothpaste.
Flouride works on teeth. that's why they put it in a tray at your doctors. Florida and shampoo work the same. They are topical. no one says shampoo will wash your hair by drinking it. They want it to pass over your teeth but it is a stupid way to do it. I use floride toothpaste as well but stopped drinking flouride my whole life by accident.
I read something some time ago that said it is easily absorbed into the body so I have tried to eliminate any possibility of it getting in.
I have not used toothpaste with fluoride in years and my teeth are fine.
Hahaha
PSA: watch the docu “the fluoride deception” by Bryson. It’s also a book of the same name. TLDR is that the pre Hiroshima Manhattan project and aluminium industry post war generated and still generate massive amounts of fluoride as a waste by product and some evil genius decided they could get rid of it by persuading municipalities to actually buy their waste and dump it in the water.
Grew up on well water, now use city water. Do not feel different. More conservative than ever. I genuinely dislike fluoride fags. I also like my teeth.
What am I missing about this whole fluoride thing?
Pre dental hygiene student here.
Harvard released a study semi recently proving an association with increased flouride levels and lower IQ
“Fluoride seems to fit in with lead, mercury, and other poisons that cause chemical brain drain,” Grandjean says. “The effect of each toxicant may seem small, but the combined damage on a population scale can be serious, especially because the brain power of the next generation is crucial to all of us.”
I’d get a fluoride filter for your wife if she is pregnant or if you have children. It’s no bueno for a developing brain. It’s not going to make you retarted, granted, but likely shaves a few IQ points.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/
On Point Pede. See the links on Christopher Bryson and The Fluoride Deception below. Spread it far and wide, we must all do our part to end water fluoridation in the US. It's been doing the opposite of making us great. It's been making us weak, sick, and dumb.
Salute!
Here's an excellent book on the history of Fluoridation in the US, and the junk science behind it, by Award Winning Investigative Journalist Christopher Bryson, formerly of the BBC.
Very, very important book.
Here's an interview with Christopher Bryson. 42 min, it's important Pedes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfimHn2b_MQ
"The Fluoride Deception" Book Link https://www.amazon.com/Fluoride-Deception-Christopher-Bryson/dp/1583227008/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=the+fluoride+deception+book&qid=1596336683&sr=8-2
This is the real deal, not some half baked conspiracy theory. Bryson is very serious Journalist, and the historical facts, as well as their suppression, must continue to come to light. This is essential to our mission here at thedonald.win
Remember that if you're being exposed to other Halides (chlorine, bromine, bromide, fluoride, you need to supplement Iodine/Iodide. Lugol's is great, Iodoral which is essentially Logul's in Tablet Form, is fantastic. These Halides displace iodine/iodide in your organs, like the Thyroid. They disrupt endocrine function, and can act as potent poisons, causing many issues.
Your thyroid is designed to absorb iodine, but will pick up other halides as they are so similar. Supplementing Iodine will flush out these halides, and restore, or improve thyroid and other organ functions. This is not medical advice. Seek advice from a Professional who is experienced with Thyroid Flushing, and iodine supplementation protocols. Get your levels tested, Iodine is chronically deficient in a large percentage of the population, as is magnesium. It's why the Government mandated the iodizing of table salt. Huge areas of the US don't have it in the soil.
There's a correlation with fluoridation in water and Alzheimers, as well as other later life cognitive impairment diseases. The fluoride bonds with metal like aluminum as they have strong affinity, and allows those metals to cross into the brain. Many of The Greatest Generation were the first to be affected, as they gave their steel, and copper cookware to the War Effort/WW2, and had said cookwares replaced with aluminum products. They kept that aluminum, and many people after the war, and for decades thereafter bought new aluminum cookware, because it was cheap. Once they initiated the fluoridation programs, simply boiling a pot of spaghetti would cause a chemical reaction, with the flouride ions in the water ripping aluminum ions into solution, which many Americans ingested, for many years. Many are still doing it today, this may include whoever is reading this. The effects are cumulative, and it effects some people far more than others, but it is toxic in all of us.
There is also a direct correlation with increased fluoride intake, and brain damage in children. This is why there was recently a reduction across the US by participating Municipalities, to reduce the ppm. The studies showed brain damage in children at the levels most municipalities were adding.
It is not only a potent neurotoxin, but it displaces iodine, which is essential in brain development. There are numerous long term studies which show that higher iodine intake is directly correlated with the highest IQ populations on the planet, like the Japanese. Inadequate iodine is linked to mental retardation. For all you potential parents, or those considering more children, this is critical.
Please at least watch the interview above, it's vital to our mission. We must all be healthy, and at our best, in order to Make America Great Again!
You beat me to it, IMPRESSIVE LENGTH Pede!
Does anyone else notice the same types of mainstream media that mocks people concerned about covid1984 shenanigans are the same types of people that scoff at fluoride comcern?
Fluro has been a 60 odd year con.
Brought to you by the same scum/globalists that said: “Butter is bad for you!” “Beef is bad for you!” “Saturated fat is bad for you!” “Salt is bad for you!”
Over 90% of US Media is controlled by 6 Corporations.
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2014/Media-ownership-2014.png
In some cases they simply want us consuming products they make, so they tell us the competition, or the natural alternatives are bad. Nothing matters but the Earnings Statements, and profits, so they promote bad science. That's exactly what happened with fluoride.
The original studies came from the Mellon Institute. They would create Industrial Science Studies on demand, for whoever paid them to do it, including the desired outcome. In the case of Fluoride, ALCOA, the largest aluminum conglomerate on the planet at the time, had a major disposal problem with sodium fluoride. It was contaminating ground water, and drinking water, and they were in serious Legal Trouble as a result of it. The solution was to create fake studies at the Mellon Institute. This was accomplished under the direction of the Andrew Mellon, Founder of the Mellon Institute, who was also the Founder of ALCOA at the time. Mellon at the time was also the US Treasury Secretary, which made him the head of US Public Health. He engineered the scheme to dump his industrial waste into US water systems as a disposal mechanism, and made profits off the dumping. True story.
Hard to believe that many people could be duped? All those Mayors, Governors, Dentists, Doctors, and Elected Officials? Look around you right now. Look at all these idiots with their masks. Look at who wants to profits and control from vaccines. It's the same sociopath megalomaniacs, playing the same games, it's just a different time period. Most people are conformist sheep.
Here's another article from Lew Rockwell: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/07/donald-w-miller-jr-md/alcoa-socialism/
FLUORIDE, TEETH, AND THE ATOMIC BOMB By Joel Griffiths and Chris Bryson http://www.fluoridation.com/atomicbomb.htm
This horse shit science would have been debunked a long time ago, but the US Government and the Atomic Energy Commission intervened, on grounds of National Security. Watch the interview. Read the articles. Read the book.
This is Actionable Intelligence Pedes. So do something about it, join the fight. Protect yourselves, and your families, and get involved with spreading the facts. Awaken, We Rise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfimHn2b_MQ
Audio is fine. I may be mono channel. Try headphones, try booting it up through a different browser.
Fluoride is a toxic, mind altering chemical.
And it’s from China. Not kidding
Lithium is more fun. 7up!
The fact that drinking too much water may lead to hyponatremia doesn't make water toxic. Sheesh. Where'd people get this idea?
Too much spinach may lead to oxalic acid poisoning, but spinach is not toxic. It's very healthy, so long as you're not eating it constantly.
Because it has fluoride in it?
Dihydrogen Monoxide. Sounds deadly like that, eh?
Sounds like you drank the fluoride since you can’t tell the difference between toxic in small doses and everything being toxic when consumed exhorbitantly.
Well, the Nazis experimented with adding flouride to the water supply to control people. It's a known that, flouride, when ingested over time, makes you more docile and compliant.
Not too long after that, the Soviets started doing it, and after that, we (western government) added flouride to our water supplies under the guise of public health and fighting tooth decay.
A lot of conspiracy theorists believe our government is doing it to keep people docile and compliant as well. I have my own theory that it's just chemical company lobbyists that convinced our government to do it. Flouride is expensive to dispose of properly. Instead of disposing of unwanted flouride, why not just convince them it's great for public health and sell it to them in bulk?
You sir, as a dental student, know that flouride is supposed to be applied directly to the teeth, not drink it like a beverage. Lol.
Lol, well ma'am but yes. I just imagine that some of it might get ingested, maybe not enough to be a big deal. I just can't believe that we'd use it so frequently if it could cause harm... Then again my mind is blown everyday.
It's not the flouride treatments, it's because it's in your water and you drink it every day. It adds up.
The whole idea of putting it in the water is insane anyways, how much touches your teeth? It all goes straight into your stomach.
It turns the frogs gay !!
Same. In fact I got more conservative as soon as I switched
From Harvard, read the conclusion.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/
Please see links above. Christopher Bryson has some things to share with you.
Hard science, historical facts, bad science, and powerful industrial and government interests. Zero Tinfoil.
Conspiracy realist
Now that you mention it, me too.
Stanley Kubrick’s “Dr. Strangelove” is a master class in propaganda, and how to force something down the public’s throat with just one movie.
General Ripper's obsession with fluoridation was a specific parody of the public positions of the John Birch Society at the time. It's sort of a lost bit of history.
Edited for a word
Wait till you realize what he did with Eyes Wide Shut.
What… commit suicide? He knew the odds.
Didn’t understand it until I watched it after 2016. Now it’s one of my favorites
...2001
Kubrick was a smart, smart man. Too bad they murdered him for it
I make it a point to watch that movie about once a year. You see something you previously missed with every watch. Some of the sarcasm and humor is really, really subtle.
It's just toxic waste scrubbed from smokestacks bro it's good for you.
And chlorine. Terrible long term bone weakening shit.
You should know there's like 25 different ways to sterilize water without adding chemicals to it. It isn't necessary. It never was.
well, no offense but the only one mentioning ions is you. there are other ways to clean water without adding toxic chemicals to it. thats all I'm saying.
Chlorine is toxic in large doses. So why wouldn't small doses also be toxic. Wonder what the ld50 is and the long term accute ingestion of it
SHUT UP AND EAT YOUR PROCESSED FOODS
Exactly. The dose makes the poison idea is bunk. If something is poison, its poison. It doesn't get healthier or magically become good for you if you take less of it.
So many new studies have have shown negative consequences. 2019 (Iowan?) study showed a ~4 pt drop in IQ in kids with prenatal ingestion by mother. Boys had a worse drop compared to girls. It costs the US $1.12 per citizen. Other studies show no difference in dental health between countries with fluoridation and those without. We are spending $369 million a year for a pointless program that increasingly shows negative consequences. I formerly was an unbeliever until I looked at the data. Unfortunately our public health officials are fucking politicians not health experts and thinking critically gets you labeled.
They do the same with ethenol. Not that its a health thing, but it does little to curb pollution and raises the price and effort to create it. Yet they still mandate and subsidize it.
Shhhh they need a way to get rid of their aluminium production waste somehow...
Get a reverse osmosis system installed.
Yup.
We're gonna drug you now to numb the suicidal depression we're causing you.
And the sheep went baaa
Side effects include drowsiness, poor concentration and impaired memory. Sounds good. Lets add chemotherapy medication too, can't bee too safe.
So we can all be like Biden.
This is hilarious
Like from the toilet?
Like, with a cloth or something?
Side effects for lithium are worse than side effects for hydroxychloroquine
These scientists and doctors should lose their licenses. People have valid emotions that should be worked through. Psyc drugs can help people get started, but it’s personal work that makes the difference.
I was on lithium for three years. Part of five years where drugs and dosages were changes every month. Nothing truly helped till I went off it all and took initiative to change myself. My life was a mess from growing up in an unstable home. That’s not a disorder and it’s not an imbalance for no reason.
There is an epidemic of diagnosing people, prescribing them drugs, and not getting down to the real problem.
I agree. I also think people are quick to take a pill to "cure" the issue. I'm on absolutely no medications. I was on Lexi pro briefly after my divorce + then went cold turkey because I didn't want to have to rely on a pill to be happy.
I had to work through a lot of personal discomfort. I found gym time was very important. I had a lot of time to think and way better for it. I think sometimes people don't want to face that.
I will say I walked away from birth control pills back in October, and mental is state is more consistent. I've read a few articles of women saying similar things, less depression.
That’s another great point! Exercise is imperative for mood regulation and overall health.
I find it funny many people understand how exercise impacts the behavior of dogs. A tired dog will be better behaved and not destroy your couch. But this logic is lost on the human themselves.
Glad you worked through things. It is hard but it’s the only way.
I'm not depressed, but I'm not where I know I should be. And it's because of how I spend my free time.
Exercise and nutrition aren't enough. I need to focus on creating stuff instead of consuming things online.
One thing that tends to help people is to do something that helps others. For me it was volunteering with a greyhound retirement group. Responsibility outside yourself can help to get you doing something that feel like it matters.
Can kill your kidneys and your thyroid.
I took it for 8 years. Thyroid stopped working now I get to take Thyroxine forever yay! The first year I had hand tremors so bad and was so drowsy I looked like SleepyJoe.
Sorry to hear that...thyroid issues suck. I was so sick on levo...till I found Stop the Thyroid Madness. Found a great doc, and have my life back on old school dessicated.
I think I put on over 50 pounds in 3 months and slept 20 hours a day it was horrible. Glad to hear you found a great doc that's so much harder than it sounds I know!
For people who really need this drug (ex bro in law) delusions become ten-fold once a person stops this drug.
I'm more worried about it causing breathing trouble... there's a reason they have to do a lithium level test on you when prescribing it.
Yes, it's a good, generally safe mood stabilizer, but it's not really a great idea to mass medicate the world like this.
Used to be in 7up ... I think? Double checking to see if that was an urban legend ...
Yup - although not for a while now.
Topo Chico
It also didn’t start out as a soft drink. It was a medicine.
Most sodas were like that. Patent medicines etc. Coke had Cocaine in it of course.
Here's a quick rundown of lithium medicinal effects for anyone who is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nklvuocGCAQ
Lithium is also fairly useless therapeutically outside of near lethal doses.
Sorry, not lethal. Toxic.
Toxic is correct. I was blood tested often when I was on it.
I really wish edits worked
They are probably already doing it in some places if it’s hitting the news now.
My very first thought
So I have bi-polar disorder and I take Lithium for it. It's a good drug for me, has helped me to not become a raving lunatic who gets arrested and thrown into the padded cell and stuff like that. But it DEFINITELY has a numbing effect. The idea that people who don't have documented mood disorders should be force-fed this shit is ludicrous. I wouldn't take it (and i didn't, for many, many years) unless it was absolutely necessary for me to function in society. If people are willing to accept this type of shit then fuck them they deserve the future that they seem to be clamoring for.
Yep and yep. I felt a bit like a sleepwalker on Lithium. Yes it absolutely modified the manic behaviour, but I was left with NO ups and downs and it definitely inhibits creativity. After it killed my thyroid I switched to something else and I have what I consider to be normal reactions again. But even talking about dosing entire populations with anything, via the ONE thing we cannot live without for longer than three days is a fucking dystopian nightmare.
Yeah man. Agree completely. My relationship with Lithium has been pretty good so far, but when you say that it inhibits creativity you are right on there. So far my body is tolerating it well. I had to put the creativity on the backburner for a minute because it used to consume me and i gotta make sure i focus on the nuts and bolts or i'll end up homeless or worse. These days I might not get praised for my creativity, but I do get praised for how steady I am. That's worth something too. I just wanna be the best man I can be for my community.
Good for you. Stay strong and be proud of who you are.
Thanks, pede. This community is fucking AWESOME!
It worked for me beautifully until the thyroid problems. I was shit scared going off it though after being stable for so long. And yep correct, it took me 7 years living with my parents at age 38 onwards to do it. It's actually weird living as a stable person after the inherent drama's of the bipolar rollercoaster. I think that's why it's so difficult to get med compliant when you are bipolar because the manic rush IS both terrible and beautiful to behold. And it's nice to be part of the community rather than be at odds with it and feel like an alien. I am so happy for you =)
hey loverat it's so nice to hear something of your story. seems like we've had some similar experiences. yeah i get the regular blood tests but i'm aware of the potential for thyroid issues. might i ask what drug you switched to?
i am also happy for you that you have gotten to a place where you are stable and happy about it! I very much agree with your thoughts about being part of the community. Now if only I didn't live in an uber-liberal New England city! Oh well you can't have everything.
We have for sure! I went on Tegretol, which is an anti epileptic. It's working well for the mania but a weird side effect is tinnitus so I had to drop the dose, it's still there but not as bad and I can deal with it AND it's way better than literally being a mental case! But sometimes I miss those manic highs and it's uber productiveness factor. Hey, you might think your alone in an uber liberal city, but that's because they are the ones that make the noise and scream and cry. I'm betting there are a lot of people in your situation that don't speak out due to fear of being targeted. I cannot believe I just had to write that sentence - it's so wrong that people are scared to express their opinions in 2020 ffs.
Thanks for the info on Tegretol. Yeah the manic highs are something else. Mine were very intense to the point where i sometimes became borderline psychotic/delusional. But there was no better feeling than being in that state of mind. Energy. Joy. No Fear. I don't really miss it though, since I know how destructive it could be.
I have no doubt there are some people around me who share my political views. I've got to try harder to find them. And yes it is absolutely bonkers that our speech has been chilled! I actually cannot express my political opinions in group settings, not even with my family. I will immediately be branded.
Lithium was the last drug I tried for bipolar disorder. I was on many meds for many years. I legitimately do not remember the year I was on lithium, which is a real red flag for why someone would consider putting it in the water supply. Take care of yourself and be well. It's a hard road but you can do it.
Sorry for late response but thanks for the suggestion!
Got to do it don't ya, either that or throw in the towel and that's never an option =) You sound like you also remember when it wasn't fashionable to have a life threatening mental illness. I hear people say all the time they are bipolar, and most of them are lefties looking for a victim badge ;)
Sorry for late response, but yes I do remember that. Very hush hush. This has definitely changed over the years! On one hand, it's great to be able to talk about it publicly (though I don't), on the other, with the social risk removed, suddenly everyone has problems they want to talk about, and most importantly, make you change your behavior to accomodate their problems. It's supposed to be a two way street, you know?
Awesome thank you =) I mean we'd all rather NOT take them but jesus being bipolar nearly lead to my death more times than I can remember. I didnt even get med compliant until age 40 and had to move in with my parents so I had some structure in my life. Many many wasted years self medicating with booze.
i have heard of lamactal. i'll talk to my doc about it. Lithium is cheap, too! about $20 for the month. thanks for the suggestion, pede.
Drugs created for disorders mostly work. I had an ex bro in law who was severely bi-polar, and when he was feeling too good, he would stop the drug. He then went into a super severe psychosis. The body produces endorphins for drugs used for disorders to prevent addiction, but doesn't stop the problem when drugs are stopped. Imagine this drug in people who don't really need it. No endorphins created by the disorder would create horrible addictive zombies.
I did a study in college on the use of morphine.. People who had severe pain were able to handle morphine without becoming addicted to this drug, because of the endorphins. Imagine if this drug was put into the food supply, the horror is just unimaginable.
I completely agree. I resisted medication for almost a decade. I had some interesting times during that period, I won't lie, but I wasn't stable enough to be there for the people I cared about and who needed me. I still have a healthy skepticism about Psychiatry generally speaking, and I don't think anyone should take meds if they don't really need them, but I understand that some of us do have mood disorders and we can benefit from the right medication.
But as someone with Bi-Polar I, I think I represent less than 1% of the population, according to current statistics. The other 99% DO NOT NEED LITHIUM! Forcing it on them would only serve to dull and numb them, to no productive end.
So cool to hear thoughtful folks chiming in on this issue which is really an important one to me. Love and thanks to you pedes!
Thanks for sharing. Every person has some kind of challenge in their life but most won't admit it. The fact you acknowledge yours and take action is a fact that you will be better in life than most. God Bless, fellow Pede.
Thanks for listening! I'm new to the Donald.win (used to lurk on the reddit page a lot) but I really can't believe how much interaction, understanding, kindness and support I'm experienced in just a few weeks here. Just makes it that much more unbelievable when you think about how we pedes are demonized. Go with God, Lady_MaGa.
Even though the left demonizes us, the world knows it is not true. We are truly family here. Have a great night Roconan. ((hugs))
Glad I have a well.
I have 2 natural mineral springs on my property. Best damned water I've ever tasted and no worries about these assholes poisoning the well.
My city has been slowly going street by street and forcibly converting wells to city water over the past decade. Passing the full construction cost onto the homeowners too.
Your well is simply part of a large aquifer, the same place water companies get their water from. Having a private well doesn’t mean your insulated from anything.
Except after they get it from the aquifer they put it in their holding tanks. And then they add the flouride.
That means he's insulated from the flouride.
Most fluoride is inline and guess what? A lot of domestic well water has natural fluoride in it. You’ll know because it’s part of normal water quality analysis you do every year, right? This is just nonsense conspiracy bs. Work in the water industry and as a water quality engineer.
Yep, had our well water checked and there is fluoride. We do have a whole house filter, but don't know if it filters out the fluoride.
If it's under 2 then it's not an issue. RO will remove it.
And shutoff during peak commie takeover
The most important plus
Or they just put whatever they want in the aquifer...
Didn’t think this one through, did you?
They’ll just dump shit in the god damn aquifer. Having a private well dies t protect you from shit
This does not help my paranoia.
MAYBE OUR LITHIUM WATER WOULD HELP WITH THAT, SUBJECT.
I'm slowly feeling this way too!
Alex Jones isn't a paranoid lunatic. He was right about pretty much everything.
"What do you call someone who accurately predicts the future?"
"A conspiracy theorist."
Ever think about the phrase 'herd immunity'?
Fauci certainly hasn't, so I dunno.
Look at the herds of psychos burning down cities, karen's yelling at strangers, ghetto gun slinging larp marchers shooting kids, cops scared of mean words, and normies beating the shit out of eachother over masks that they dont even understand, and tell me how they're wrong.
Are you aware it goes deeper than just chemicals and they can effect populations mood with electromagnetic radiation too? There are easily searchable active denial microwave crowd control weapons, and what do you think they can do with sattelites?
Tip of the iceberg.
https://www.defendershield.com/emf-exposure-depression-anxiety-mental-health-issues
I can’t blame them since we never actually fight back
If you do not control your own supply chain, we might as well be livestock. Deny modernity. Return to tradition. Escape Babylon.
People need to realize these people are absolutely evil and will stop at nothing to destroy us and our bodies. A monster is still a monster regardless of the title or coat he's wearing. STAND UP AND FIGHT.
Lithium also tends to dumb people down. Seriously. It's why psychiatrists don't recommend it to people whose work requires intelligence.
Makes people gain weight like a Grand Champion Poland China.
Big pharma is funding studies to support pumping drugs into our drinking water ...change my mind https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/association-between-naturally-occurring-lithium-in-drinking-water-and-suicide-rates-systematic-review-and-metaanalysis-of-ecological-studies/B7DDAF6E2A818C45EA64F3424E12D67A
Big pharma needs to be publicly destroyed and everyone and anyone involved in shit like this needs to be publicly executed.
Not unreasonable
"Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual's internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable." - Theodore Kaczynski
Damn.........this is deep as fuck
maybe there wouldnt be depression and suicide if we got rid of lockdowns and draconian restrictions on our rights?
They used to add to 7-Up. Seriously.
Coke used to have coke in it. Now its all baking soda and baby formula.
kek
Are you talking about Coca~Cola or Cocaine.
I drink Coca~Cola everyday and i don't wanna be secretly drinking baking soda and baby formula. I need to switch to Pepsi, I don't know which is the least sjw/blm but I think it's Pepsi.
Switch to water dude, that’s all you really need. 👍🏻 Soda is full of sugar/corn syrup which isn’t that great for you in large amounts.
Edit: with a water filter of course
You know what pede, today is the day I drink more water and limit my soda consumption, thank you.
I drink water a d coffee that I brew myself.
Every once in a while I'll have a soda from my local grocery chain. I hardly ever drink name brand shit because of the garbage they dump in it.
But water and coffee. Glorious combo.
I wouldn't trust any soda. I know at one point Pepsi was using engineered kidney cells from feotal tissues. They stopped, but soda is just bad for your health no matter what's in it.
I think they're on par with Cuck-a-Cola
Wasn't that quinine? Or am I mis-remembering?
No. They use an ingredient from the coca leaf for flavoring, that isn't cocaine. They used to use a process early on that left the cocaine in, so early Coca-Cola had cocaine in it - but a TON of products did. When cocaine became illegal, they created a process to get the flavoring out of the coca leaf, and no cocaine. There is ONE processing plant in the US that's allowed to do it, and the cocaine is sold to Big Pharma, the Stephen Company plant in New Jersey.
The baby formula thing is a joke. Which is now stomped on.
thanks for the info on Coca-Cola pede but i was referring to 7-Up. I didn't think it ever had Lithium in it I thought it used to have Quinine. After a little research i discovered that 7-Up apparently did used to have some Lithium salts in it. Who knew?
Quinine is Schwepps tonic water. Has quinine in it, still. 7-up, no clue. They used to put any old shit into food and drinks back then.
From what I understand they purposefully put quinine in the tonic water to guard against malaria? Not sure if that's right but I heard that somewhere. It's funny that Trump is promoting a time-tested, super-safe drug that's been shown to be beneficial and they act like he's some kind of snake-oil salesman. This clown world is gonna make me blow my top!
The cocaine in coke thing was real but hasn't existed since like 1920 or something.
No, quinine is in tonic water
Yes, but there should be more of it! Hydroxychloro-QUININE!!!!
Who knew gin and tonic could cure the Chinavirus, lol
i know it's funny but i'm not just pissing in the wind. i'm not sure exactly how but hydroxychloroquine and quinine are related in some way.
Quinine was derived from a tree bark that grew in just one part of the world, and used to treat malaria and many other infirmities. IIRC, Chloroquine is a synthetic form of Quinine, and Hydroxychloroquine is supposed to be a safer version of it.
yes this is what i heard. ironically i heard this on some guy's youtube channel who was explaining how to make the best gin&tonic!
Oh yeah, I was just laughing with you :)
haha yes, TheDonald & Quinine for the Win! ;)
And where do we get the vast majority of our lithium??? I'll give you a hint they gave us the current pandemic.
Also in Mexico, the mines are CCP owned and the Cartel pulls the security for them.
I don't think that's true. I looked into mining company stocks on 2013, and one of the biggest deposits of lithium at that time was actually in America somewhere, also a couple American companies were the two biggest miners of it. That was in 2013, granted.
They've been talking about lithiuming us up for years now. Alex's Jones has been on this since day one
And calming us with cell phone towers, and eventually using viruses to disable or damage parts of the brain.
brita filters are not for rich people and they dont remove stuff like flouride. they have much more expensive filter systems in their garage or a private water source
Yup. There are far better filtration systems than your average Brita.
Authors name is Sleezer....lefties and their names. Every time.
The universe has a sense of humor.
There's a book called "Anathem" by Neal Stephenson, where the government puts something called allswell in food sold to the public. It makes people feel docile and arbitrarily satisfied. Fiction. Fiction.......
So is Walker Percy's 'The Thanatos Syndrome', about just such a move by those who want to control a town, only it backfired.
Lithium is a horrid mood altering drug that turns you into a zombie.
Remember folks, we’re the fascists.
We are careening toward the land of the Pod People.
Will adding this shit to our water be enough to make us stand up for our freedoms? Truly stand up?
The fact that scientists and health officials are even thinking of this should be a red flag .. this is a trial balloon, meant to see how compliant the lockdowns and masks have made us.
It adds up. Somewhere like 42% of trannies commit suicide and a larger amount don't kill themselves but feel tremendous depression and regret because of the mutilation surgery and the imbalance of hormones. Considering the same people who are talking about drugging the water supply are the ones that want trannies to not only exist but to become an ever larger group of the populace, it makes sense. I'm sure Weimar Germany would have done the same thing if they had the ability.
And then one day for no reason at all
Don't drink the water unless you distill or at the very least RO it.
brita
Hmm, Brita doesn't claim to remove fluoride or lithium according to their own data sheet...seems to be a porosity limit to their filters.
https://www.brita.com/wp-content/uploads/BritaFaucetUserGuide1.pdf
To filter out things like floruide, chlorine, and lithium you need a reverse osmosis filtration system. They can be purchased by consumer, but not cheap.
This is the one I have
https://www.uswatersystems.com/us-water-defender-whole-house-ro-system-up-to-3-5-baths.html
It's whole-home system.
You CAN buy cheaper ones that install under a kitchen sink for example and only filter water at that one tap, those are $200-$400.
There are ones you can get for less than $100 if you look on e.g. Amazon. Probably a good idea to get a TDS meter, too. Those cost less than $20. TDS in this case means total dissolved solids, that's one way to check how effective your filter is by testing the unfiltered water and comparing the reading to the filtered water.
u/The_Checkz
Berkey
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Get your drinking water as clean as possible. Don't drink tap water at all and get yourself some water filtration systems if you can. Don't drink from regular plastic because BPA acts like estrogen when consumed.
Is that really true? I only use bottles to drink from and I even use them to boil water. I thought they were only a problem if they were left in the heat or something?
Plastic bottles are always breaking down. They break down faster in heat, but they never stop breaking down. If they are BPA bottles, like any bottled drink, then BPA will be present in trace amounts. Use BPA free plastics, metals, or glass.
Hmm interesting. Thanks for the tip. I’m not some conspiracy theorist but I really do believe that there is some kind of attempt to demasculinize the men by putting soy and other crap in our foods etc.. to make the country more feminine, egalitarian etc. Would you say that getting some kind of water filtration system is the best option to avoid these things or is BPA free bottles just as sufficient?
No, definitely get a reverse osmosis system if you can. The water shops and vending machines already do it so you can buy water from there until then. BPA free bottles are just to keep the BPA from seeping into your water.
Lithium causes birth defects if ingested during pregnancy. Seems like a great idea
Their answer is it will be a low enough dose not to be harmful, but anyone who has taken lithium knows you actually need a fuckload a day for it to be really effective as a head drug. But it does accumulate in the body, so to speak, so yeah, fuck you babies! They are insane.
So in all fairness, my friend works for a company that certifies scales for measurements, he informed me that most older water systems do not need to be maintained or "certified" like a gas pump is. To provide current product being purchased
That being said. He informed me that our local water system was working on a old bladder pressure system that was from the 50s/60s, the system would trigger at 1000lbs to dump fluoride into the "system". Well, he being a scale "guy" added the weights, the 1000lb scale/bladder didn't trigger until nearly 1400lbs. Which also throws off the flouride system, which is also looped into it.
I'm following his advice and never drinking public water again. Just throwing this out there. Some states may have different regulations, however I highly doubt it.
CHECK WITH YOU LOCALITY TO VERIFY HOW AND WHEN THAT SYSTEM WORKS, HOW OLD AND WHAT TYPE OF SCALE. YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THIS INFORMATION AS YOU PAY TAXES.
scales are funny systems, if 100lbs = 90lbs then 1000lbs could only weigh 600, there is really no rhyme or reason.
edit: was typed on phone so messing af
Which countries children have to mine for that?
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they're already doing it.
The planners think our bodies are sumps for whatever junk they need to get rid of.
These continued systematic attempts to destroy this country are completely unopposed except for President Trump and a scant few others. It's unnerving how silent, passive, and compliant the general populace seems to be, not to mention the treacherous betrayal of the republicans with their continual silence and inaction.
Nothing, you think those crazy antifa rioters and ISIS terrrorists don’t drink tap water?
The fact is you’re just a bunch of pussies, it’s got nothing to do with the tap water.
Fucking cuckservatives man.
drugging the public without their consent? its rootin tootin shootin time
Lithium didn’t help Kurt Cobain.
He did crack, and he did have a gun. Being married to Courtney Love couldn't have helped his sanity, he should have stayed away.
The quicker we destroy China the better, for every invasive plant, animals and for every drop of water they stole from us they need to be bombed.
Um... while I agree that we don't want these water companies sucking up all our water, Lake Michigan is nowhere near low. In fact, it is so high, that in certain areas there aren't any beaches left. Since the lakes are connected, I have to imagine that the rest of them are high as well.
Current Michigan Lake Levels
You aren't allowed to kill yourself tax cattle. Only we can decide when you live and die.
The new tyrants wear white lab coats.
If you take it for a mood disorder, your doctor should be monitoring your levels through regular blood tests. Too much is toxic and very harmful for anyone.
Wouldn’t that effect people who aren’t depressed?
AS GOD FUCKING INTENDED.
I bet if they just put
WATER in the
WATER we woudn't have to be on suicide
WATCH and find more shit to add to
THE WATER.
And on that note, I wonder how much vaccine they are gonna dump in the water?
I love my well more and more...
I mean, you could just let society go on back to normal and let the private sector determine their own rules like it's supposed to be.
This is real I believe... I just moved back from Oregon (eastern BTW.. red blooded patriots Oregon) to New England after being away for 15 years and I can't believe all the pink haired dikes and trannys around that just didn't exist back then... Literally 80 percent of the population is gay.. i just kept thinking... what the fuck happened... now I know... its crazy
They can call for it all they want, but science doesn't know enough about lithium to put it into the water supply. Dosage has to be monitored closely by a doctor for people who take it by Rx for mental issues. There's no way you could dose a large population without some serious and immediate effects that would be visible to the untrained eye.
These people are cornered, they're being exposed everywhere and it appears things are going down behind the scenes we can't fathom. They are desperate enough to do this, look at the tyrants running numerous states right now and tell me otherwise.
Are you dissenting, subject?
It was the PAX, the G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate
It is better for the rest of us to allow the weak to die those who are mentally strong to live with out the weak dragging them down.
I know it sounds horrible but that is the way of life that is the way it goes in the animal kingdom. Survival of the Fittest.
Lifeboat Earth
Brave New World
pretty sure not keeping people locked in their houses and forcibly shuttering all public gathering places and watering holes would have the same effect, but what do I know.