Sometimes I’ll just be like ‘you’re not a high school social studies teacher, you don’t need a works cited page. Either believe it or not.’ Other times I’ll point out their pattern of behavior and argument strategy before they even get to the final stage, where they say since it didn’t come from a reputable source it doesn’t count. They don’t seem to grasp all of their beliefs are being influenced by propaganda sources so of course any real news will seem strange to them. They’re interesting creatures.
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Sounds like my very unhealthy mother.
My MIL is like this too. The most successful conversation I ever had with her (it didn't redpillher, but it made her begin to think, and it shut her up):
We start coming to blows over some "fake news" story. She says "It's like you just don't know who you can trust" (she's talking about who's media is accurate, hers or mine)
I start laughing and say "Yes you can."
She says, "Well how, I don't see how, everyone is lying to you these days."
I am still chuckling, I say, "Just go to the source material. That's how you know who's telling the truth about something..."
I gave her a little pep talk about how you can determine what news sources are reliable by checking them against source material. I ask her if she read Pedosta dumps. Answer = no. So I say "well, if you didn't read it for yourself, then how do you know if media is lying or telling the truth about it?"
SOURCE MATERIAL. Don't go to the media, go to the source. Then check what you saw/read against your media, and you will know who is lying to you.
Use the source, Luke. Use the source.
o shit, that is memeworthy... kek!
Because she's too lazy. She wants predigested opinions because it's easier.
My girlfriend and I was just at her moms house last weekend so I could put a bed together for her for some extra cash. We both already know she's a diehard lefty. $100+k in student loan debt, switched from an English degree to library degree, full on in academia. So I already know the bubble she lives in. My gf asked me long ago not to argue with her when she brings up politics to get along. But there we are helping her out and she starts bringing up something about someone calling AOC a bitch and how wrong and messed up that is. I myself wasn't aware of that particular story b.c when it came up here on TD I skipped over it b.c, well I do think she is a bitch. So I said to her I haven't heard about that story, tell me about it. She rambles on about how someone was caught on camera calling her a bitch and was supposed to apologies but didn't. A real nothing-burger. I then asked her why did he call her a bitch? All she could say was I just told you the story. I said yes you did but you never said why he did it in the first place. So she's getting heated and saying how we (gf and I) were misogynist and that we instantly think b.c she is a woman she had to do something wrong to be called a bitch. I replied with no, I just don't go around calling someone a bitch without being provoked first. On the way back home I told my gf, notice how she couldn't give us a reason as to why someone would say such a thing to someone. It's b.c the tv didn't give her a reason. Notice how outraged she got when the narrative was questioned? B.c tv teaches her to be outraged when it's questioned. I been on the Trump train sense the 2016 primaries. Girlfriend is voting Trump with me this year. Her mom.... well she is useful in red pilling my gf
Exactly. People are using media as the source. How is media a source? Media may report a story, but that story had to come from somewhere. Verify if what they are saying is true by looking into it yourself. Reporters are no better at coming to a conclusion than you or me, sure they may have gotten a degree in journalism but that does not necessarily means they are always correct with the conclusions that they come to. Opinion pieces are some of the most disgusting pieces of content they put out, why would I give a fuck about some journalists opinion? I may give a fuck about a close friends opinion, or my families opinion, but a random journalist?
It gets even worse than this because not only do people not even look into the source they dont even read the fucking articles. So many times I see comments on Reddit asking questions or making speculations on things that were clearly addressed in the article. These people are reading headlines and forming opinions based on headlines. It is insanity.
You are exactly right, however, I tried dragging my mom through the whole spirit cooking Podesta emails and she refused to believe they were real. Her words : “Emails are private and secure, how could you get ahold of his emails, they have to be fake”. She also calls me monthly to fix her computer, or walk her through turning it off and back on