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bubble_bursts 13 points ago +14 / -1

Disclaimer: I am pro-vaxx, but anti-NVIC

The way I introduce why people become anti-vaxx is like this. I start off asking them whether they would be surprised to hear that at least one child has received upwards of 20 mil compensation for developing autism linked clearly with vaccine.

When they vehemently deny that there is NO link between autism and vaccine, I thrust this in front of their face: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/

Once they read it and realise that even the pro-vaxx expert witness has clearly said that in specific kids with specific mitochondrial disorder, vaccines actually cause autism.

I then point out that 4800 cases are currently still pending in the federal court.

Then I ask them " Did you know that vaccine makers are NOT liable for any injuries caused by vaccines?"

Again they will deny it, but less sure now. Thats when I introduce them to National Vaccine Injury Compensation: https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html

And I explain to them how this system causes disincentive for vaccine manufacturers to push new vaccines without all safeguards and testing, and why Vaccine manufacturing has become big business for people like Bill Gates.

At this point I show the graph that shows that percentage of autistic children has slowly increased tracking the rollout of NVIC, and increased vaccines.

I point out that I am still pro-vaccine, but I very much want this NVIC to be overhauled, and let the markets ensure that vaccines are made safe again. As it stands its getting unsafe with every new vaccine introduced, and we HAVE to make this change without making it a political issue.

People who say they are pro-vaxx or anti-vaxx without understanding all these nuances are making it political.

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Miserable_company 12 points ago +13 / -1

Re:the aborted fetal tissue. That is 99% likely a line of tissue that has been laboratory grown for decades and is used as a base for vaccines for ages. Yes, the origin was from an aborted fetus, which does make me uncomfortable on one level, but it’s countless generations away from the original material.

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VictoriaSumma 12 points ago +14 / -2

Vaccines intentionally have heavy metals in them. This article is a bit misleading. Yes, new vaccines can be quite dangerous, but this is like frightening people with hydrogen dioxide.

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sorrytodisagree 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same with "genetically altered materials" that's basically the whole idea behind a vaccine. To inoculate a crippled version of the virus.

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Kerra_Holt 9 points ago +9 / -0

NAAAAAAW, REALLY?! This is old news. Look up Senomyx and HEK293.

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deleted 10 points ago +11 / -1
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jubyeonin 0 points ago +1 / -1

lol What do people think vaccines are? At best, they are viruses suspended in disinfectant solution.