Applaud Hosts for Canceling Over COVID-19 Concerns
THEN WHY THE HELL ARE WE NOT POSTPONING THE ELECTION!? Seriously, we need to throw this back in their faces. Show why it's so dangerous to let your government dictate things for the public good during a public health crisis. I've seen enough idiots where I live that are happy the governor has done all this crap because they think it was the "safe" thing to do. Well, if it's all about "safety" of the public, then postpone the election.
Trump doesn't have to go through with actually postponing it though. Run through the process so people realize why they need to reign in all this government overreach simply because they're screaming the sky is falling. He could even play it up like "I'll make sure no president or governor can take aware your rights like that, vote for me". I'm just thinking out loud here.
It's cruel to make election day volunteers sit in a small office to count tens of millions of mail in votes, or interact with tens of millions of people waiting in line.
We better delay the election until a vaccine happens. Could be another two to four years. And even then, I don't particularly trust a vaccine, so let's just say indefinitely.
Indeed. In any case, Biden could debate remotely via webcam like he's doing for his 20-viewer livestreams. He has no valid excuse for not debating (except his dwindling mind)
Problem there is that Biden will have a room full of staffers helping him. No reason there can’t be an auditorium with just trump, Biden, moderator all 20+feet apart.
Would that be the same constitution that lets governors dictate orders that strip you of your rights? "Pretty clear" has been "pretty vague" lately. I get your point, but we have a ruling on that books that already lets the government force you to take a vaccine. We have a major problem going on and everyone needs to see it right up front. What better way then to threaten with postponing an election to finally get people to wake up that we've lost too many of our rights because of dumb "laws" that truly aren't constitutional.
Since liberals will be the most REEEing group... I'll take this quote from an LA Times article to 'prove' that what they want can lead to horrible stuff like I'm proposing, and that's the point I'm trying to make here...
The court explicitly rejected the claim that “liberty” under the Constitution includes the right of individuals to make decisions about their own health in instances where those decisions could endanger others. But the court also made clear that restrictions imposed by the government to control communicable diseases must have a “real or substantial relation” to protecting public health.
Sounds pretty clear here that if we can't even safely send kids to school or go out and vote, then to protect the public health, we can postpone the election. Esspecially since we're talking about everyone's public health here.
It's pretty clear that there isn't an exception for when it's dangerous to exercise your right to assemble peaceably, but governors just did away with that.
We have to demand in person debates with Trump and Biden on the same stage. No virtual debates where they aren't even in the same room. Remotely Biden could have a screen telling him what to say to pre-screened questions, and an ear piece or whatever. Also just the optics of a strong comfortable Trump next to Biden would be a killer. It would also be harder for Trump to bait Biden into a 'listen fat' moment remotely. If debates aren't in person on the same stage they are fake. If Biden can't be in the same room as Trump how will he deal with being in the same room with other world leaders?
He needs to be on the ballot in several states. The deadline has already passed. Only possible exception is if another contender filed in those states before dropping out. Things get super weird if they replace him now because the need to tell people to Vote for Biden to elect xyz
I don't see the reason to cancel them at all. It should be easy to keep the podiums 10 feet apart and keep the moderators socially distanced. If there's no audience, so be it.
Because this will be exactly like Nixon/JFK debates during modern times. The first televised debate, which was all about Optics. People saw JFK as well put together, strong, articulate and likeable. Nixon had the flu, looked drained, had an injury, etc. The visual impact swung the election in favor of JFK. The rest is history.
Side note: Trump has direct ties to JFK through his Uncle John Trump.
Cue the "10 Reasons That Debates Are Unnecessary Distractions During Election Season" and "The Racist History Of Presidential Debates" articles at Huffpo, Buzzfeed, and CNN.
It’s a win for Joe Biden if he doesn’t have to come out of his basement to debate. He’s just sitting back and saying nothing while CNN NBC NYT WAPO and everyone else bashes Trump all day.
I think it was relocated but the date is the same.
The whole thing is weird regarding audiences. I don't know why they are changing venues just to go somewhere that can have an audience. You don't need people clapping to let the dunces at home to know you made a "good point"
A debate with Biden could be one of Trumps greatest masterpieces. Hunter & Burisma, Hunter & China, Joe's quid pro quo with Ukraine. Joe's 8 years as VP and 20+ more in politics. Joe signing onto Green New Deal. The material is endless, and GEOTUS' brain is in peak performance. PERSON, WOMAN, MAN, CAMERA, TV.
The Democrats are not in a position of strength right now. In a situation where they can't even put their own candidate on stage, simply avoiding putting their candidate on stage is not the biggest of wins.
I want to see his cognition test results. Everyone in leftist media made fun of Mr President when his test results were made public and then made fun of how easy they were.
Invalidate Biden's candidacy if he does not release his cognition test results.
There will be no debate or I one it’ll be remote with very controlled environment. Convention will be pre taped infomercial. There is no campaign this year.
If you fuckers are determined to subvert democracy and grab power, if that's how the game is gonna be played, then we're gonna play to win, and you can live under our authoritarian rule instead of us living under yours.
I don't want that. I want a democracy, a fair fight win or lose. But if I can't have that, if this is zero-sum, winner take all, seize control by any means necessary...then two can play that game.
The Democrats absolutely do not want debates to happen. Biden's barely coherent as it is, Trump would fucking eat him alive. They know damn well Sleepy Joe won't be allowed to use a teleprompter and will subsequently get BTFO. Biden's going to ramble on and on about his blonde leg hair. It's going to be so fucking hilarious watching the liberals melt down. My guess is they'll do one """"live""""" televised debate with very carefully prescreened questions that Biden spends hours carefully answering coherently, and then they just toss the best clips out for each question to make it look like he's coherent.
Hope they saved that final batch of adrenochrome from Epstein Island. Joe's gonna need it
Pelosi tells us only mail in voting will keep us safe, also, the debate WILL be cancelled or, as you say, messed with so Joe can cheat. Hard not to think that this virus bullshit was literally created to make all of this happen.
I'm betting on this, but it'll backfire. The DNC thinks people will vote for a candidate who's already mentally inept AND has a possibility serious virus, given his age and obvious comorbidities?
Oh. Wait. They're planning to rig and steal it. Smdh.
this is a total joke. if biden is afraid of debating trump then how in the fuck is he going to handle any world leader? he can't even look good when he's in softball sessions with friendly libs on remote interviews.
This is their entire game plan. I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Biden is swamped out for whoever his VP is and then the VP ends up being the presidential candidate. That's why its taking so long for Biden to choose a VP. They want to wait for the opportune time to announce the VP, remove Biden from the top of the ticket and install the VP as the Presidential Democratic Nominee. This has been the game plan from the moment it was clear Biden was going to win the primary.
I liked the idea that came up the other day about Trump debating a third party instead of Biden. If they aren't serious then we shouldn't take them seriously. Let one of the third parties take over as the opponent as the Democrat party withers and dies. Either way, 2020 landslide incoming.
They arent floating the idea. The decision was made some time ago. What they are doing is conditioning people to the idea that there will not be debates.
You cant go from were-going-to-have-debates > nope-no-debates.. Optics are not good. You need to make progressive baby-steps to condition peoples mind..
THEN WHY THE HELL ARE WE NOT POSTPONING THE ELECTION!? Seriously, we need to throw this back in their faces. Show why it's so dangerous to let your government dictate things for the public good during a public health crisis. I've seen enough idiots where I live that are happy the governor has done all this crap because they think it was the "safe" thing to do. Well, if it's all about "safety" of the public, then postpone the election.
Trump doesn't have to go through with actually postponing it though. Run through the process so people realize why they need to reign in all this government overreach simply because they're screaming the sky is falling. He could even play it up like "I'll make sure no president or governor can take aware your rights like that, vote for me". I'm just thinking out loud here.
It's cruel to make election day volunteers sit in a small office to count tens of millions of mail in votes, or interact with tens of millions of people waiting in line.
We better delay the election until a vaccine happens. Could be another two to four years. And even then, I don't particularly trust a vaccine, so let's just say indefinitely.
Indeed. In any case, Biden could debate remotely via webcam like he's doing for his 20-viewer livestreams. He has no valid excuse for not debating (except his dwindling mind)
Problem there is that Biden will have a room full of staffers helping him. No reason there can’t be an auditorium with just trump, Biden, moderator all 20+feet apart.
Folks I called this months ago. Biden and Trump will NEVER meet face to face.
Short of a Constitutional Amendment, the election cannot be postponed. The US Constitution is pretty clear.
Would that be the same constitution that lets governors dictate orders that strip you of your rights? "Pretty clear" has been "pretty vague" lately. I get your point, but we have a ruling on that books that already lets the government force you to take a vaccine. We have a major problem going on and everyone needs to see it right up front. What better way then to threaten with postponing an election to finally get people to wake up that we've lost too many of our rights because of dumb "laws" that truly aren't constitutional.
Since liberals will be the most REEEing group... I'll take this quote from an LA Times article to 'prove' that what they want can lead to horrible stuff like I'm proposing, and that's the point I'm trying to make here...
Sounds pretty clear here that if we can't even safely send kids to school or go out and vote, then to protect the public health, we can postpone the election. Esspecially since we're talking about everyone's public health here.
It's pretty clear that there isn't an exception for when it's dangerous to exercise your right to assemble peaceably, but governors just did away with that.
We have to demand in person debates with Trump and Biden on the same stage. No virtual debates where they aren't even in the same room. Remotely Biden could have a screen telling him what to say to pre-screened questions, and an ear piece or whatever. Also just the optics of a strong comfortable Trump next to Biden would be a killer. It would also be harder for Trump to bait Biden into a 'listen fat' moment remotely. If debates aren't in person on the same stage they are fake. If Biden can't be in the same room as Trump how will he deal with being in the same room with other world leaders?
Biden won't be the nominee. He is falling apart to fast. They will pick someone else.
Since hes been the nominee since March and still hasn’t chosen a VP makes me really question if he ends up on the ballot.
Something is definitely very wrong. That said, promising a minority female VP really cut out a lot of options.
Here comes Hillary.
He needs to be on the ballot in several states. The deadline has already passed. Only possible exception is if another contender filed in those states before dropping out. Things get super weird if they replace him now because the need to tell people to Vote for Biden to elect xyz
I don't see the reason to cancel them at all. It should be easy to keep the podiums 10 feet apart and keep the moderators socially distanced. If there's no audience, so be it.
Because this will be exactly like Nixon/JFK debates during modern times. The first televised debate, which was all about Optics. People saw JFK as well put together, strong, articulate and likeable. Nixon had the flu, looked drained, had an injury, etc. The visual impact swung the election in favor of JFK. The rest is history.
Side note: Trump has direct ties to JFK through his Uncle John Trump.
Cue the "10 Reasons That Debates Are Unnecessary Distractions During Election Season" and "The Racist History Of Presidential Debates" articles at Huffpo, Buzzfeed, and CNN.
Ministry of Truth strikes again. How long til the "SAY NO TO DEBATES" stickers show up on IG 🤢
Covid-19 is awfully handy for the Democrats, isn't?
Almost like it was custom tailored to fit their every need
They're kind of like a kid whose health issue only flares up the night before he has a test.
They don't want Nixon vs Kennedy 1960 Modernized
They don't want Trump Vs Hillary 2015 Modernized
It’s a win for Joe Biden if he doesn’t have to come out of his basement to debate. He’s just sitting back and saying nothing while CNN NBC NYT WAPO and everyone else bashes Trump all day.
I think it was relocated but the date is the same.
The whole thing is weird regarding audiences. I don't know why they are changing venues just to go somewhere that can have an audience. You don't need people clapping to let the dunces at home to know you made a "good point"
A debate with Biden could be one of Trumps greatest masterpieces. Hunter & Burisma, Hunter & China, Joe's quid pro quo with Ukraine. Joe's 8 years as VP and 20+ more in politics. Joe signing onto Green New Deal. The material is endless, and GEOTUS' brain is in peak performance. PERSON, WOMAN, MAN, CAMERA, TV.
The Democrats are not in a position of strength right now. In a situation where they can't even put their own candidate on stage, simply avoiding putting their candidate on stage is not the biggest of wins.
We need to march on Washington. The German gathered 17k strong, why cannot we?
The Dems are getting worried because he probably can't even read the telepompter without effing up!
Trump should invite him to do it in the Rose Garden.
Two podiums. Moderate moderator. Cameras. No frills.
It's time to throw down the fucking gauntlet.
With respect- they don’t care if Biden is a blithering babbling fool- his campaign and the DNC are planning to steal this election.
Biden can't even read from a teleprompter. IF he tried it would be so obvious. Witnessing some crazy history right now.
You can go buy a blender at Walmart but the presidential candidate can't debate? If you are too scared or too frail you don't deserve to be president.
I want to see his cognition test results. Everyone in leftist media made fun of Mr President when his test results were made public and then made fun of how easy they were.
Invalidate Biden's candidacy if he does not release his cognition test results.
Biden: Person... woman... child...bathtub...island?
There will be no debate or I one it’ll be remote with very controlled environment. Convention will be pre taped infomercial. There is no campaign this year.
If he can't debate... How will he talk to the press or do any visiting once he's President... Of course he won't: he's already a political puppet.
Outdoor stage maybe a big tent... Everyone gets a rapid test before entering... perfectly safe.
Joe Biden will never debate Trump or anyone. Hard stop.
No debate, no election.
If you fuckers are determined to subvert democracy and grab power, if that's how the game is gonna be played, then we're gonna play to win, and you can live under our authoritarian rule instead of us living under yours.
I don't want that. I want a democracy, a fair fight win or lose. But if I can't have that, if this is zero-sum, winner take all, seize control by any means necessary...then two can play that game.
Pick one, commies.
The Democrats absolutely do not want debates to happen. Biden's barely coherent as it is, Trump would fucking eat him alive. They know damn well Sleepy Joe won't be allowed to use a teleprompter and will subsequently get BTFO. Biden's going to ramble on and on about his blonde leg hair. It's going to be so fucking hilarious watching the liberals melt down. My guess is they'll do one """"live""""" televised debate with very carefully prescreened questions that Biden spends hours carefully answering coherently, and then they just toss the best clips out for each question to make it look like he's coherent.
Hope they saved that final batch of adrenochrome from Epstein Island. Joe's gonna need it
Biden and his handlers are so desperate and it is hilarious to watch them flail.
Obummer: "Joe, you don't have to do this."
Sleepy Joe: "They say I should do it."
Sleepy Joe: "Oh shit, what did I get myself into? And where am I? Corn Pop?! Where are you? Where's my chain?"
they know guys... they know.
Pelosi tells us only mail in voting will keep us safe, also, the debate WILL be cancelled or, as you say, messed with so Joe can cheat. Hard not to think that this virus bullshit was literally created to make all of this happen.
They can social distance on stage! It’s not that hard
I say we postpone the election 8 more years.
100% chance a debate gets scheduled as planned and Biden tests “positive” for COVID-19 right before it happens.
I'm betting on this, but it'll backfire. The DNC thinks people will vote for a candidate who's already mentally inept AND has a possibility serious virus, given his age and obvious comorbidities?
Oh. Wait. They're planning to rig and steal it. Smdh.
The democrats aren’t even trying to win the election, what is their plan?
this is a total joke. if biden is afraid of debating trump then how in the fuck is he going to handle any world leader? he can't even look good when he's in softball sessions with friendly libs on remote interviews.
They will NEVER let Biden debate Trump, it will guarantee a second term for Trump if they let it happen live and in person.
Its already not gonna happen. They're not stupid, they KNOW Joe has dementia, just like we all do. Vote by mail is the response to it.
Challenge him to a debate in Wilmington, DE. Better yet, debate live in Joe’s basement.
Where Joe at? Check my fitness against anyone pal, I'll do push-ups right here
I mean at this point, I seriously don't even think it matters.
If you need a debate to decided to vote for Trump or Biden, I honestly don't really want that person to vote anyhow.
Having a debate between two presidential candidates is more important than needing to see their taxes
This is their entire game plan. I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Biden is swamped out for whoever his VP is and then the VP ends up being the presidential candidate. That's why its taking so long for Biden to choose a VP. They want to wait for the opportune time to announce the VP, remove Biden from the top of the ticket and install the VP as the Presidential Democratic Nominee. This has been the game plan from the moment it was clear Biden was going to win the primary.
4chan needs to start making memes about Trump being afraid to debate Biden.
Biden Inc is in a hole with this one. Trump will assuredly rally and campaign regardless of debates.
I liked the idea that came up the other day about Trump debating a third party instead of Biden. If they aren't serious then we shouldn't take them seriously. Let one of the third parties take over as the opponent as the Democrat party withers and dies. Either way, 2020 landslide incoming.
Should hold live event outdoors like they allow for the protesters.
I suggest an MMA style octogon as a stage.
He's probably not even going to be the candidate. They'll pull the ol' switch-a-roo at the convention last-minute.
They arent floating the idea. The decision was made some time ago. What they are doing is conditioning people to the idea that there will not be debates.
You cant go from were-going-to-have-debates > nope-no-debates.. Optics are not good. You need to make progressive baby-steps to condition peoples mind..
were-going-to-have-debates-starting-at-the-end-of-september > VP-annouced-at-convention-in-two-weeks > Michelle-Obama-what-a-suprise !! > Biden-withdraws-from-the-race-early-september > Michelle-is-nominee > cant-have-presidentin-debates-cuz-nominee-transition > cant-have-VP-debates-cuz-need-new-VP > no-debates
There will be no debate. Biden will decline because it will look bad to debate.
Hold the live debate theatrical but have joe on a tiny laptop on stage next to Dad himself.