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erefernow 11 points ago +11 / -0

Heart attack in the car. Begged to be laid on the ground. What is pitiful about this situation is that "Can't breathe" was adopted as a protest chant and response to cops after Eric Garner was killed. When that phrase is used repeatedly it becomes impossible to quickly determine what is an evasion response vs. what is a symptom of an actual medical emergency. Floyd didn't die because of the cops, he died in the presence of the cops.

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ippwndu 9 points ago +10 / -1

It's a safe bet to say that if someone can talk, they can breathe. I have extensive experience with people trying to choke the shit out of me on the mats. Actually, they are going for a strangulation that doesn't sink and turns into a choke (which is far less effective).

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supermagafragilistic 3 points ago +3 / -0

There's certainly a difference between not being able to breath and feeling like you're not getting oxygen, which is what I imagine Floyd was actually experiencing. I've experienced a panic attack before and it certainly feels like you cant breath, no matter how deeply and effectively you are breathing, it still feels like not enough. He was more than likely having a heart attack and I'm no doctor but a heart that's freaking out doesn't pump blood very well, it may even be the part of a heart attack that kills us, again, no doctor.

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ippwndu 3 points ago +4 / -1

He was saying, "I can't breathe," throughout the encounter. Hood rats try that crap all the time.