- The bodycam footage will be hidden by the controlled media.
- The police will be found not guilty, or receive light sentences.
- BLM and the MSM will start the riots all over again. (*)
(*) - Unless Trump is re-elected, and finds a way to reign in the traitorous MSM, and domestic terrorist groups like BLM and Antifa.
As an aside, are the cops guilty of anything besides bad optics? They would have known that they were dealing with someone who is high -- they do it all the time. But should they have known that he had taken a dangerous overdose, and rushed to get him medical attention? Would more training have helped? Defunding, obviously, would not.
Edit: Step #1 has begun: https://thedonald.win/p/GbyDPP4G/what-a-freaking-surprise-abc-spi/c/
All I can remember right now is that crackhead in a golden casket, and all the kids on social media harassing others to "say his name..."
WTF...
that is really sad...nobody should be punished or harassed for asking about what's going on. The cancel culture thing is really a terrible byproduct of social media.
Some people just want to be left alone, and not have to deal with being bombarded 24/7 with ignorance and malice, because we have to get some rest before we go back to work the next day...
Damn counter culturists and your (and my) jobs.
Thanks. I added it to the post.
I'd bet the house he couldn't say his own name that day.
He knew what we knew.
Sadly, I think that what we knew is pretty important here. Cancel culture attacks quick and hard without thinking about any other possibilities than the one they are fuming about that moment.
You are right. I just expect conservatives to do better and not follow popular opinion. We have experience with some of these cases similar to Floyd, and we know that The left likes to take advantage of these issues. some conservatives/libertarians such as the Libertarian party presidential candidate has caved in with BLM and other communist stuff. some conservatives have even gone back into the camp of "systemic racism".. if this crisis has shown one thing, conservatives need to be stronger when there is pressure from the left and corrupt globalists.
Why don’t you tell me which other politician has done a better job of fighting back against the liberal “social justice” brainwashing. Which ones could have done better job?
Zero!
If it weren’t for Trump, we wouldn’t even have a national public voice, much less a list of accomplishments.
Few other R’s even bothered to speak out against the left’s insanity. And none pushed back as hard as our President!
Trump didn’t pander to anyone. He was one of the few who didn’t pander to the mob, or stay silent.
Did you really expect him to, on day one, say, “this is BS. Floyd was a criminal druggy, and the cops did nothing wrong.”
Really?
I don’t know why I have to defend our President on a site that is supposed to be dedicated to boosting him. But you are wrong on multiple levels.
Bro, I am not bashing Trump. I am bashing the libertarian party candidate. Trump did well for me. I like your enthusiasm which is really needed here but you are misunderstanding my statements. I am just bashing some weak conservatives.
don't you agree that we should call out conservatives who easily sell out?
Kinda shitty, but my mind goes - if they don't get elected, they can't do anything, anyway. Something like this, it's better that Trump knows what we know. I dunno. Hard to say. They would have hung him, and he would have been tied up in garbage for the next 10 years.
The Libertarian party going BLM, and communist is disappointing - if true. RINOs seem to pop up everywhere - better to out them sooner than later, but I've never gotten any feeling that Trump was going either of those directions.
Trump is unique.there are other conservatives similar to him but most of them falter under pressure. I just hope he can focus on things like divorce laws, the bias media reporting, Whites declining birth rate(it is not his duty but it would be fun if he trolls liberals by saying he wants to boost it) and defending Christians in his second term. He can add these things to whatever he plans for the second term if he is elected
How did you arrive at your statement?
He wasn’t “pandering to blacks.”
His positions were always reasonable. He is in favor of more police funding, not less. He has always sent a clear message of respect for law enforcement.
Trump cares about blacks just like he cares about whites, and everything in between.
That’s not pandering. He has never supported BLM’s lying narrative. He has never given in to the liberal lunacy!!!
If you are so “concerned,” I politely suggest you go back to Reddit.
Because this is a pro-Trump sit!
I shouldn't have said "pandering ".It is just that during similar cases like George Floyd, too much propaganda arrives and lots of people watch the man at the Top.can you remember when Obama made the statement, "if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon".that statement also came with a harsh condemnation of police which gave BLM their first shot of legitimacy. Trump was a bit harsh towards Chauvin but he didn't do much for me to worry.
if you remember the meeting he had with black American leaders after Rashard brooks death.some of the people who came to the conference were not really upfront with Trump. They were talking like liberals which were kinda cringing. I expected someone like larry elder or officer Tatum who has a great understanding of the black society. the Black lady(sonny hostin) who spoke, didn't talk about the Black family; which is a bit broken or anything really important. I understand that Trump cares for all Americans, which is great. I like that he never gave in to the BLM narrative.so many conservatives were weak during that period. I am not concerned, I am here for the long run.
First of all, this is a pro-Trump site. If you disagree with the President, that’s fine. But if you wanna trash him, I suggest you go back to Reddit.
Almost everyone, including people on this site, were saying Floyd’s death was terrible, and that the police were responsible.
Is Trump supposed to know what nobody else knows? Is he supposed to say what nobody else is saying or even comprehending?
He often does both of those things. That’s why he was elected. But not always.
Fact of the matter is, he was 100% pro-police from day one. He was in favor of more police funding and more respect for law enforcement. He has never supported BLM’s bullcrap.
Neither has he “pandered to blacks.” His positions have always been reasonable.
Based on the transcripts very quickly they did call for an ambulance it just took like 10 minutes to reach them.
Floyd was a huge dude, combative, and tripping on Fentanyl. Who wouldn't want to keep him restrained.
That's a good point. And if they had left Floyd in the car, while he was tripping, they couldn't stop him from hurting himself.
And note that the position of the knee, at the back of the neck, where the muscles are, is a restraint position. Choking someone takes pressure on the front of the neck.
Also, if those cops were actually trying to help Floyd, then it would explain their lack of concern about the people around them taking videos.
They aren't concerned about cameras because they were wearing body cameras already.
Law enforcement did their job correctly. It is not the cop's fault that Floyd got caught using counterfeit money, driving while high on an extremely lethal substance and then panic-level resisting arrest. Floyd put himself into a grave.
This. This is the single most important detail of the story that the MSM tries so desperately to hide from us.
I've been making that same argument. He could still talk, his windpipe wasn't being crushed. It was the muscle on the back of the neck and the officer's toe was on the ground the whole time. He wasn't being choked. I, just, think it's a poor choice of hold under the circumstances, but I don't have the experience to say what a correct choice of hold would be. And that opinion is mostly based off politics and how it looks. Not really what I think about it.
A couple of other things become clearer, now that we have more context.
One is when the cop, in the original viral video, says something like, "Don't do drugs, kids." It seemed like a cynical joke at the time, but now we know he was serious, and was referring to the sight of Floyd, on the ground, tripping out, as tragic.
Another thing that becomes clearer is why Derek Chauvin, and the other cops, appeared so sullen throughout the ordeal. In the original video, it seemed like they were cold-hearted bastards, who didn't care. Now, it seems like the opposite -- like maybe they were thinking, "Here we go again. There's nothing we can do to help this poor guy. All we can do is wait for the ambulance to come."
biggest difference between us and them is accepting when we were wrong, learning from it, and moving on in a healthy way.
...they just claim racism and burn shit.
put it right under "families" and "fathers"
There are so many variables. It may not have been an overdose it may have been a heart attack or stroke brought on by his drug use. Police are just that, police. They dont carry around EKG machines and MRI and CT scanners. As a former police officer seeing a PERP agitated and violent does not immediately register as an OD. I have seen dozens of ODing persons normally they are nodding off or vomiting and convulsing. Dont do drugs and dont fight with the police.
The police have the same problem as the military. The military is great at turning things into rubble, but it isn't designed to police foreign nations. Meanwhile, the police are designed to, well, police, but they are not designed to be social workers, EMS, priests, dog-catchers, etc.
Based on the charges they are getting off
That was the plan from day 1. The cops were grossly overcharged so they would e found not guilty and cause more riots
I think that much was clear. Premeditated? GTFO. They want those sweet riots.
Edit: Intentional murder, rather than premeditated, to my understanding.
The prosection might have a shot at proving manslaughter, longshot at 3rd degree murder, definitely not the 2nd degree murder charge. If they dropped the murder charge they might have a shot at a case due to political pressure. There's basically no chance that they do that, so there is very little chance the case will stick. That's justice. However, the cops involved will never be safe again, probably will have a hard time finding work, and the 28 people who have lost their lives, hundreds who were injured, and thousands who were financially destroyed will never see justice.
They needed the 2nd degree murder charge so they could charge the other 3 as accomplices. The other 3 cops will walk for sure, and considering the prosecution will go all in on the 2nd degree murder charge it's likely Chauvin will walk to.
Did GF quickly ingest the drugs he possessed, to keep them from the police, and in the process suicide himself?
We still need to keep tyrants from becoming police, court, and prison staff.
The bigger problem we have is keeping tyrants from becoming politicians who lie about shit like this to get us to dance for them.
Good point, now that GF case is over we should have time.
yes but did these cops actually follow procedure? because if so, and i suspect they did based on their actions, they're gonna walk and probably should. if anything this could be a procedure issue, rather than a tyrant issue.
the bigger tyrants are the ones who hid this shit and let our country burn for 2 months.
Derek Chauvin is obviously the tyrant in George Floyd's case - it isn't just the event, but he had been involved in previous cases of police brutality, just never as the cop who pulled the trigger (so to speak.) Still not as bad as Tony Timpa. If you want to see bad, look up Tony Timpa; if you've never heard of him, it's because he's white.
In the case of Rayshard Brooks, the tyrant is Paul Howard, Jr., the fucked-in-the-head DA who thinks that tasers are deadly weapons in police hands, but not when a resisting captures one and aims it at an officer's face. It's the other way around because police are trained in how to use tasers in ways that avoid permanent damage.
There is actually a Star Trek episode specifically made about the need to detect and root out tyrants in the system. It was a powerful and painful episode to watch because it starred sweet little old Jean Simmons as the tyrant, and her performance knocked it out of the park. She (well, her character) is starting to foam at the mouth as she loses it while Patrick Stewart apparently takes a break from Jean-Luc Picard to do a little Bill Barr. (Star Trek has come such a long way since that episode ...down into the crapper, that is.)
Wow, thanks for finding that clip. I hope you get more votes for linking this.
Edit: Oh, and it's not the only clip from that episode. The whole Patrick-Stewart-as-Bill-Barr scene was in my suggestion feed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smdqe2eluEI
Is Timpa the guy in the hallway of a hotel who that YOURE FUCKED jabroni shot? that was god-awful.
No, but that was awful; I forgot his name though. Timpa was all over 11Alive (local TV and TheirToob channel) around 2019 July. Cops stood on his back for almost twenty minutes teasing him like elementary school bullies.
jesus christ
And Judges!!!
Agreed; i considered those included in court staff.
This is the plan all along. They intentionally over-charge the cops because they want them to be acquitted, just like in the Atlanta case with the guy who tazed the cops. It’s intentional, because when the cop gets acquitted it just “proves” to all the rioters that the system is racist and they go out to riot again. This has always been the plan.
well now that we know what happens next, the question is whether or not we put our money where our mouths are and actually stop these cretins from destroying the country further.
my mags are loaded waiting for someone to fuck around and find out.
Maybe some kind of negligence because of not checking pulse and breathing, and not performing CPR. Can't see much beyond that. They definitely didn't "cause" his death though.
i doubt it. i would bet this comes down to bad procedures they followed. it explains why they were so cavalier during all of this. change the procedures imho.
He was belligerently high. You would have to take him to the hospital restrained in a wheel chair, or just load him up with tranqs till he passes out, but now you're mixing drugs in his system and that's an unknown and a no no. More training wouldn't have done shit.
Only thing that makes no sense is why they transferred him to the other car. Had they left him in the first one, he could have died at the station or in the car and no one would have cared.
I didn't see in the video where they ever had him in a police car. If they had him in the one behind the SUV, then they perhaps moved him so that they could leave the police SUV behind the soon-to-be impounded suspect vehicle. Not the best idea given what happened but that's the only thing that makes sense to me.
Edit: Yeah, I went back and rewatched the most complete video I could find. It looks like they had him sitting on the sidewalk relatively relaxed and then he flipped out when they took him to the police car parked half a block behind and to the left. When trying to get him in while he was freaking out, they tried to allow him to get in on his own and he refused. The officer wearing the camera went to the other side of the SUV and opened the door, leaning in to pull him through. Floyd then struggled/kicked himself through the SUV and almost knocked over the officer trying to pull him through. He then died in custody on the ground.
You need to read the transcript. The video doesn’t tell the whole story. The cops called for an ambulance multiple times. It never arrived because the area is devolving into a 3rd world hellhole like it’s residents.
Thanks for the info.
How they gonna rush him for medical attn when he wouldn't get into nor stay in the car?
systematic racism bro!
Minneapolis is a shitty place, so it likely just takes awhile for ambulances to respond.
the NEW Detroit!
I called it the moment that snake Keith Ellison raised the charge to Murder 2, which has a motive element very difficult to prove. He probably saw the footage and realized he could make hay for the DNC by keeping the footage from everyone. He should be a conspirator in a class action lawsuit against Antifa, BLM and DNC.
As a cop for some time, his behavior was not consistent with having consumed fentanyl - they were what you expect when someone is on meth. There was no way to know from his behavior he would be overdosing on fentanyl.
Well the cops didn't know, and iirc he admitted to hooping drugs. If you can even trust the reports we got to see, because clearly this is all bullshit.
We need to pound them over this. Normies bought into this racism lie, they may listen now too. We cannot let this slide. Post everywhere, talk to people
You sure do seem sure of that. I see literally millions of people who bought the narrative falling away. I see any attempt to kick off more rioting doomed from the start.
Good point.
It was a safe bet that the mainstream media would hide the truth, and it's already happening.
It also seems likely, in light of the bodycam footage, that the cops will not face severe legal consequences.
So the question is, will there be future riots, when the cops are "let off" in the eyes of the crowd?
I am quite confident that the current plan, by the Deep State and the Democrats, is to promote those future riots, using the MSM and BLM. That is their standard operating procedure.
But, is it possible, by then, that so many people will be sufficiently red-pilled, that any attempt to start new riots, based on media lies, will fail?
Yes. I agree with you -- it's possible. In fact, I am hoping it will be the case.
Plus, as I suggested in the original post, we don't know what Trump will be able to do in the future to promote more honesty in journalism, and to weaken or destroy the foreign-funded terrorist groups that help organize the riots.
The Media should be heavily fined for editorializing, editing footage, and lying.
The Left will postpone any trial until the timing suits them, so mid-2021 or 2023.
As an aside, more training is almost always warranted. Of course considering where that point of diminishing returns exist.
this is a lot like Rodney King. the officers will be acquitted because they were following department policy and procedures. but that wont stop the follow up riots.
also like Rodney King, the problem IS the department policy and procedures. Cops sometimes need to show a little mercy to perps, no matter how guilty the perp is.
The cops didn’t kill George Floyd negligently .The procedure has always worked; this is the first time there has been a failure from this restraint in the Minneapolis Police Department. Things should have gone better but we don’t control death or life.
cant we all just get along /s
Time to mobilise the military in preparation for BLM’s fake and misplaced outrage for some quick and swift disciplining.
Here's the truth:
America isn't long for this world. It is going to end because of shit like this. By having its own rules exploited. The irony is that to prevent it you have to start saying that these people have no right to do the shit they do.
That's why tyranny ultimately wins out 100% of the time in the long run: it's not that we like tyrants, it's that when you have a good thing it's only a matter of time before someone figures out how to exploit it and once it's exploited its fate is sealed.
Trump? We can enjoy 4 more years but the deep state knows it only needs to hide that long. And it can.
Trump really needs to make propaganda illegal again.
I dunno, other than maybe a poor choice of using his knee to hold the guy by his neck? I don't think so. Looking at the original video, it doesn't look like he choked the guy. Other than that, which I could be wrong about, I think the cops did everything they could to work out a bad situation.
If dipshit Floyd had not resisted, the officers would have sought medical care for him.
This is 100% Floyd's fault.
That said, Chauvin is also a fuckwad and should be tried.
Just my opinions.
the MSM has truly acted criminally. Americans have been hurt and killed due to MSM actions. MSM is vile.
The antifa/blm one-two punch is nothing new. This should of been addressed 4 years ago.
Well... they called an ambulance in. You cannot get anymore "rushed to get him medical attention" than having a mobile first aid unit come to your location with ability to go through traffic lights.
So, the cops DID rush it in the most rushing it way possible.
Is anyone else old enough to remember when journalists were stringently taught to report on facts only and if people could perceive their bias in any reporting other than clearly marked editorials, then they were doing it wrong?
i'm locked and loaded. i dare one of these crackheads to fuck around near me.
Has there been one black guy that's been killed by a cop that hasn't been a complete useless piece of shit and not a drain on society?
Before someone say Breonna Taylor, A) she's not a guy amd B) that was a mistake/she was not in the middle of a crime.