Actually, the neck restraint could have also been used to control the subject, while keeping them conscious according to the Minneapolis Use of Force document:
Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)
Authorizing a knee on the neck is pretty stupid imo, but if it's so bad, then go after the people that authorized it. The cop followed procedure and the procedure wasn't something like "gas all Jews" or something ridiculous,
This isn't something like waterboarding, where you go after John Yoo and the people doing it. Go after the guy that set the policy for setting bad policy, and retrain the cops about why it was bad policy (leads to death, reflects poorly on the PD, whatever).
"ExDS subjects are known to be irrational, often violent and relatively impervious to pain. Unfortunately, almost everything taught to LEOs about control of subjects relies on a suspect to either be rational, appropriate, or to comply with painful stimuli. Tools and tactics available to LEOs (such as pepper spray, impact batons, joint lock maneuvers, punches and kicks, end ECD's, especially when used for pain compliance) that are traditionally effective in controlling resisting subjects, are likely to be less effective on ExDS subjects."
"The officers were recorded on their body cams assessing George Floyd as suffering from "excited delirium syndrome" (ExDS), a condition which the MPD considers an extreme threat to both the officers and the suspect. A white paper used by the MPD acknowledges that ExDS suspects may die irrespective of force involved. The officers' response to the situation was in line with MPD guidelines for ExDS."
Worse part is so many departments across the country banned any type of neck restraint after that one guy in NYC their department didn't follow suit and this is what happens unfortunately.
I think he died in the ambulance but yeah ME said the knee didn't do it. I looked at it again and I'm not sure much weight was on the knee if any really only problem is regardless it just looks bad and is easy for media and the internet to spin as excessive force. Also positional asphyxiation is still a think too even with no weight anywhere on a cuffed suspect that is on their chest they can still possibly pass out and die from the positioning
Actually, the neck restraint could have also been used to control the subject, while keeping them conscious according to the Minneapolis Use of Force document:
https://archive.is/lR2os#selection-4927.13-4927.17
Authorizing a knee on the neck is pretty stupid imo, but if it's so bad, then go after the people that authorized it. The cop followed procedure and the procedure wasn't something like "gas all Jews" or something ridiculous,
This isn't something like waterboarding, where you go after John Yoo and the people doing it. Go after the guy that set the policy for setting bad policy, and retrain the cops about why it was bad policy (leads to death, reflects poorly on the PD, whatever).
In the policy that he was following it references that the subject may die.
follow up
Worse part is so many departments across the country banned any type of neck restraint after that one guy in NYC their department didn't follow suit and this is what happens unfortunately.
Lol u need to fix ur recollection. John Yoo was the fucking whistleblower.
Whistleblower for what?
I was wrong. The wb was john kiriaku. My bad. Sorry
I think he died in the ambulance but yeah ME said the knee didn't do it. I looked at it again and I'm not sure much weight was on the knee if any really only problem is regardless it just looks bad and is easy for media and the internet to spin as excessive force. Also positional asphyxiation is still a think too even with no weight anywhere on a cuffed suspect that is on their chest they can still possibly pass out and die from the positioning