This is uncharacteristic of ammonium nitrate explosions in other locations.
What you're seeing isn't the smoke, initially. What you're seeing is, effectively, cloud formation from the shockwave. Wilson clouds is the usual term. (What's happening is that the shockwave is a zone of high pressure followed by a zone of low pressure. If the air is sufficiently humid, and/or the explosion strong enough, the air is (very briefly) cooled enough that you get condensation, i.e. clouds. And you see it.)
This depends heavily on atmospheric conditions. Belruit is sunny with a temperature of 29, humidity of 70%, and dew point of 23 (assuming the random weather forcast I pulled up was accurate). Somewhat less of a temperature change required than e.g. Las Vegas.
You also see this in other cases, depending on conditions.
Here was operation Sailor Hat's Bravo shot. 500T of TNT, with a somewhat similar (but less pronounced) Wilson cloud.
Here was one of Operation Redwing's test shots (Redwing Seminole), with a yield of ~14kT TNT, that had the same sort of cloud.
Something is burning initially and it IS white smoke.
From some videos you can even see "sparks" jumping up in the white smoke. You can see the fire gets more intense, then the explosion with red smoke, which produces the white Wilson Cloud (you describe), which when passes by revealing the remaining red smoke.
So there is white, normal combustion BEFORE the Wilson Cloud.
Red smoke is characteristic of nitrate burning; as seen from rocket launches which use hydrazine, ammonium nitrate, nitrocellulose, etc.
The first fire was allegedly a fireworks warehouse or factory. You can see the firecrackers and whatnot going off. Then it spreads to the warehouse with the ammonium nitrate which goes off.
I agree with your observation. Could also have been rounds cooking off. There were certainly tiny (relative to the area of interest) spark producing pops before the MOAW(arehouses) goes off.
I agree with your observation. Could also have been rounds cooking off. There were certainly tiny (relative to the area of interest) spark producing pops before the MOAW(arehouses) goes off.
Didn't Netanyahu go to the UN a couple years ago and talk about this already? He had a picture of this exact location talking about missile conversion sites or something...
It was like 2,750 Tons of Ammonium Nitrate, supposedly. Timothy McVay had a van full and blew half a building away. I don’t know if the world has seen that much go off in one time but there was a missile involved
That or deployed! I can’t buy the firework thing at all. Agreed there’s plenty of video showing either fireworks or ammo going off, but the finishing touch was something amazing for sure.
and really ALL AT ONCE... I'm hesitant to believe either of these stories right now. I mean... start a fire under a pile of ammo. Does it all go off at once?
What you're seeing isn't the smoke, initially. What you're seeing is, effectively, cloud formation from the shockwave. Wilson clouds is the usual term. (What's happening is that the shockwave is a zone of high pressure followed by a zone of low pressure. If the air is sufficiently humid, and/or the explosion strong enough, the air is (very briefly) cooled enough that you get condensation, i.e. clouds. And you see it.)
This depends heavily on atmospheric conditions. Belruit is sunny with a temperature of 29, humidity of 70%, and dew point of 23 (assuming the random weather forcast I pulled up was accurate). Somewhat less of a temperature change required than e.g. Las Vegas.
You also see this in other cases, depending on conditions.
Here was operation Sailor Hat's Bravo shot. 500T of TNT, with a somewhat similar (but less pronounced) Wilson cloud.
Here was one of Operation Redwing's test shots (Redwing Seminole), with a yield of ~14kT TNT, that had the same sort of cloud.
Something is burning initially and it IS white smoke.
From some videos you can even see "sparks" jumping up in the white smoke. You can see the fire gets more intense, then the explosion with red smoke, which produces the white Wilson Cloud (you describe), which when passes by revealing the remaining red smoke.
So there is white, normal combustion BEFORE the Wilson Cloud.
Red smoke is characteristic of nitrate burning; as seen from rocket launches which use hydrazine, ammonium nitrate, nitrocellulose, etc.
The first fire was allegedly a fireworks warehouse or factory. You can see the firecrackers and whatnot going off. Then it spreads to the warehouse with the ammonium nitrate which goes off.
I agree with your observation. Could also have been rounds cooking off. There were certainly tiny (relative to the area of interest) spark producing pops before the MOAW(arehouses) goes off.
I agree with your observation. Could also have been rounds cooking off. There were certainly tiny (relative to the area of interest) spark producing pops before the MOAW(arehouses) goes off.
Israel probably found a Hamas cache.
Apparently a plant in Wuhan had a similar explosion today?
It was a hit on major munitions... likely a bomb that was planned to be used on Israel and was intercepted by Intel.
Didn't Netanyahu go to the UN a couple years ago and talk about this already? He had a picture of this exact location talking about missile conversion sites or something...
The red was the blood of the terrorist in this bomb making facility
It was like 2,750 Tons of Ammonium Nitrate, supposedly. Timothy McVay had a van full and blew half a building away. I don’t know if the world has seen that much go off in one time but there was a missile involved
Look up Texas City....their port had a ship blow up full of fertilizer in 1947....Only 2200 tons there.
2200 tons https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_disaster
If this is true, we need some videos of comparisons with good documentation.
Agreed. I’m not an expert, but it seems obvious it was a MOSTLY singular blast. It appears uniform, and almost perfect. Has to be munitions
munitions "cooking off"?
That or deployed! I can’t buy the firework thing at all. Agreed there’s plenty of video showing either fireworks or ammo going off, but the finishing touch was something amazing for sure.
and really ALL AT ONCE... I'm hesitant to believe either of these stories right now. I mean... start a fire under a pile of ammo. Does it all go off at once?
It’s a good question and I hope we find out. Hope you’re having a great night and a wonderful week!!
As well to you, fren.
You see the video from the guy filming next door? How was he not vaporized? The aftermath photos are strange too.