Trump Retweet: “We are going to go to the moon, we are going to have a base on the moon, we are going to send people to mars and make life multi-planetary. This day heralds a new age of space exploration” —
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If Trump gets reelected. If Biden gets reelected this most likely won't happen. Obama hated space exploration. He wanted to turn NASA into a Muslim outreach organization. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VivmarupwDE
Muslim countries seem so uninterested in space, I don't why you would even try outreach.
Why do they need any more encouragement in that area? Muslims already boast about inventing everything and accuse white people of stealing from them. Same as the Hindus in India and African Americans.
WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET
Free rocket rides for the commies
But they had a small golden age! You know, ripping off the Greeks and such things...
What contributions, exactly?
Here...have an updoot
Commies don't like innovation.
Yeah, that's what I got... "we are going to go to the moon" instead of "going back to".
I have personal knowledge that highly calls it into question that we ever went.
Because you're not allowed to go to space, or the moon, because Allah IS the moon, remember? That's why he can't see you commit sins if you live on a lake, because the moonlight surrounding your pedophilia and bestiality makes him think he's looking into a mirror.
When your prophet is a monster, and your god is a fucking retard, chances are you're not going to put much investment in science.
They really think he can't see you commit sins if you live on a lake?
Honestly, I don't know. Someone told me that once, and I didn't give enough of a shit to verify it. Because I can completely dismiss the religion out of hand just over the fact that any god who picked CHILD FUCKING MOHAMMAD as their prophet, and he never actually got any MORE moral, but actually got a shit ton WORSE afterward, isn't real, or is actually a fucking demon.
??? you don't want to fuck goats in space bruh ?
Muslim Inception. All about the goat mind fuck.
fuckin space goats coast to coast!
https://u.ae/en/about-the-uae/strategies-initiatives-and-awards/federal-governments-strategies-and-plans/national-space-programme
The United Arab Emirates has a space program to land Arabs in burkas and robes on Mars.
This is not a joke. Yes, it's funny, but not a joke.
ha ha quick bow to Mecca
But man oh man their flight attendants
UAE is sort of more clever than the average Muslim country, so it makes sense they'd try this. Anyway, they didn't come up with the idea - like building skyscrapers and such, they're just imitating America at her zenith.
Their ancestors didn't care about Islam. Beduines hustling for money. To not get their power swept away by Islamists they made deals.
In some UAE areas you can fry a pig these days lol.
What is it like flying Emirates?
I would be furious if I was a passenger. There is no way that I will ever submit to Islam!
In Red Mars, a book that took place during the time of the first few thousand settlers on Mars, one of the main characters laments how Martian residents have shockingly low literacy rates because lots of monied oil Baron types from the middle east brought harems of illiterate wives along with them.
It's crazy that a stone age civilization and attitude has access to rocketry and computers.
Getting access to computers isn't much of an accomplishment in the year 2020 (:-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law
Rocketry is a different matter altogether. I think the best they can do is to hire somebody like Elon Musk and pay him to put their "UAE Space Jihadis" brand on his rockets.
Red Mars and the subsequent sequels Green and Blue Mars tell an interesting story about the colonization of Mars but damn do they read like textbooks.
They're hard SciFi, that's largely the point of the genre. I think red Mars has the most realistic colonization plan for the first 200 settlers of any sci-fi book. And it does have some interesting characters, the anger if the guy who was making the comments on the illiteracy comes to mind.
Well they worship saturn so
The black cube. It’s in front of banks too. Symbolism will be their downfall.
What’s crazy is the literal hexagon on top of the planet Saturn
My personal favorite whacky theory is its an energetic portal.
Cause Saturn, then a brown dwarf sun, was visibly close to earth they took the symbolism. After some chaos ,getting electrically zapped and put into another orbit by the sun, rules on earth changed (new testament).
The dumb thing with Islam is that they adhered to the old rules way after the new rules were already in place. The meteorite in their mekka cube might also be from the time when Saturn was "dethroned"(circumcised)
That sounds fun. Tell me more.
OK but when
nasa = nwo
Operation paperclip.
Checkout na'sa in hebrew or greek. Means "to deceive, to lead astray" if I remember correctly.
I mean it makes sense considering how often you see them load up planes/rockets in attempts to bomb other places. I'd argue muslims are bigger fans of nasa than today's youth are.
Depending on if you believe in the 16 year plan. Obama and Hillarys goal was to transfer our space tech to china and end our space program. As Space is the ultimate high ground and capturing it ensures global hegemony.
The Bush family is helping out too. Dubya's brother, Neil, has a Chinese firm that just signed a deal with an aerospace giant that the Pentagon deems an arm of the Chinese army. The firm and aerospace company "agreed to cooperate on organizing the 2019 symposium, the exchange of international space innovation technology, and promoting international space expo projects.”
You underestimate my power
Hard to control people who live on the moon.
especially if they have a rail gun
Trump needs to declare American ownership of the Moon asap before China starts trying to copy our moon bases. Then we can claim Mars as soon as we land.
I agree completely. China doesn't play by the rules. They will start taking over the Moon and possible other planet. In fact I believe that we have no choice but to explore other planets because of China.
The moon has historically been called part of the south China Sea, it's only fair that they put military outposts on it!
What exactly are they going to do with it?
I want lower taxes, I don't want to funnel money into a program that seemingly makes it disappear.
There was a fucking video game about this. Fighting China in space
007 nightfire
I think also the late 90's remake of Battlezone But might of been the Ruskies
I was thinking starlancer
Battlezone from 1998 was still the best one I've played about these topics.
Sure it was the soviets in that timeline, just replace them with China and its almost prophetic the way that game unfolds.
ROFL just mentioned this in a thread up above.. Amazing game Was alot of fun to snipe enemies out of their vehicles and take them.
Planting the American flag claims ownership of new territory.
However, we're already on the moon and have craft that can travel there beyond rocket propulsion. We just need the sheep to be conditioned to accept it, disclosure project.
Pretty sure treaties say no one can own the moon or other celestial bodies. Which I kinda agree with. As a species we don't need to carry our bullshit into space.
Yeah but it's our treaty, so we can just burn it.
Just throw it in with antifa's bible burning. No one will notice.
Space Force on Netflix cracked me up on the China vs USA rivalry in space
Less funny in real life though
Mars, in my estimation, will be the next frontier. It will be the next America. Where immigrants fled Europe to find opportunity here and stake their claim in the wild west, the same spirit will send folks to Mars. This takes place when travel is more realistic, obviously.
Fuck Mars. We can't even hold elections properly with Democrats in power.
One foot in front of the other
TANSTAAFL
And for a more contemporary reference it's pretty much the plot of the red faction video game series
also Red Faction.
too bad that game franchise got rammed into the dirt.
I absolutely loved red faction, they should've kept it just how it was
The first was fantastic with the environmental destruction then they simply threw that away for the rest of the series.
the sad thing is the destruction engine in Gurella wasn't bad, it was simple but it wasn't bad. they could of expanded on it so much for the last one.
It sounds like the revolution all over again without reorientation
It's also similar to the Earth / mars dynamic in The Expanse.
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I love it when he says “Fuuuuucccckkkk youuuuu Bennyyyyyy!”
Meanwhile at the space force
https://mobile.twitter.com/SpaceForceDoD/status/1288934763995320329
So the revolutionary war all over again. Lol
I must disagree, it's important that we inhabit other planets as a backup system. It for the same reason that you backup your hard drive.
Also with liberals being so violent I think having a backup plan is more important than ever.
And being first & winning is what we do best.
I feel you. I love people's enthusiasm for space exploration and such, but reality is a motherfucker. We are never going to be a Type 2 species, not even what we evolve into will ever be either. The universe is a pretty hostile and vast space. We are pretty much marooned on this planet. Mars will never be habitable, and you can't terraform it either. It doesn't have a magnetic field to speak of, which is pretty much why it doesn't have shit for an atmosphere and you won't be able to fortify one. Then there is the soil, filled with toxic perchlorates, which means you can't grow or eat shit there and the dust will kill you with constant exposure. And that doesn't even account how you body would adapt to less gravity and if it would shorten your life span. There are a myriad of reasons why it will never be practical to live there and humans will never conquer the planet.
Fuck, we already have an ideal planet here and we can figure out how to live in certain places here. It's cool to think about it, but we are never going to live on mars in any meaningful way. At best it will be a novelty.
Interstellar. Make our own damn planet.
TheDonald.Spin
flying was thought to be impossible until early 1900's
tell someone from that time that humans will land on the moon in 50 years and they would say that's fiction.
Precisely.
puffs bubble pipe
With that attitude we won't.
never is a long time fren
all these worlds are ours (except Europa) and the flying water towers work
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NNzgey3_Yb0
https://www.answers.com/Q/How_would_the_moon_move_if_earth's_mass_increased
On the one hand, your comment is factually correct. Mars is a dead planet, and its lack of a magnetic field is a major reason for that. Space itself is so vast, it's difficult to see how to cross the voids between stars even if we find habitable planets within 20-30 light years from us. It's definitely not something within our reach right now to be a true spacefaring civilization.
But of course that all negates future technological advances. It's very hard to imagine what those will be, but we can look at just the last 120 years and see how rapidly they can change humanity. And we simply do not know enough to say what is or isn't possible.
A better understanding of planetary core dynamics could lead to knowledge of how to reignite Mars' magnetic field, for instance, making terraforming a viable option. Breakthroughs in space propulsion and materials science could make generational arks a possibility, or perhaps we will discover that a warp bubble is something we can create in reality, not just with math.
Daunting, seemingly impossible goals should never stop us from reaching for them. On the contrary, it is the fact that they seem impossible that should drive us towards them. It has always been what has seemed impossible that we learn the most from when we make the attempt to prove it.
Mars has a magnetic field, its weak compared to Earth but all other planets we can measure are too. Earths is stronger than Jupiter's by relative size.
I like and appreciate your reply most of all. The problem is always thermodynamics and how it pertains to our advancement. That's was the context of me saying we are marooned. Getting matter to travel close to, at or faster than the speed of light, takes ridiculous amounts of energy, beyond just practicality. Even if I could convert your body and consciousness into a beem of light and aim you at a known habitable planet, and had some way to put you back together, this would still be a snails pace on the cosmic scale and you would still be distorted and corrupted by the universe itself being that theoretical beem.
Generational ships would be a curse to those that lived on them, assuming the could even withstand travel for the periods of time they would be expected to. Fuck you can look at earth itself as a Generational ship, and our ship and the people on it are pretty fucked up. Placing them on that microcosm would be disastrous to say the least. And that doesn't even consider the "Wait Problem" and the ethics a Generational ship.
I could go on and on. When I was younger, I had all these hopes and dreams of becoming a spacefaring civilization. Then I seen whats all involved, with distances, energy that would be required to simply traverse these voids, and that the speed of light is still laughably slow on a cosmic scale, even if we could travel at that speed. And as much credit as I want to give humanity, our meat puppet bodies just aren't going to withstand the hostile environments of the universe. Even if I could transfer you into a robot body, you would still not be able to do a whole lot as the universe would still decay faster than you could accomplish anything.
I know it's a fatalistic and defeatist approach, but I feel is the most realistic. This isn't some "just over a 100 years ago, people thougbt flight was impossible." No, that's not even close. People could see birds and bugs fly, it was just a matter of working the right bits out for us to harness it. It's not like we see other living things warping or traveling at the speed of light and all we have to do is figure it out. While I am grateful for humanity's advancements and to be living at this time, its just that science isn't magic, we can just discover some math problem like an incantion for a spell. Our achievement advancement is a game of diminished returns at some point.
Do I think we will continue to advance technology as a species? Yes. Do I think we are going to meaningfully travel space or become a type 2 civilization? Absolutely not. Just look at the cosmological horizon problem. Right this minute, we are losing access to an ever growing portion of space as we speak. My sentiment isn't to be discouraging, but realistic.
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damn right
RED ROCKS!
The color of winners.
If Biden wins no one is going anywhere. Elon would have to make a island out in the middle of international waters to launch rockets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/7875584/Barack-Obama-Nasa-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html
also under 0bama
What are your thoughts on this part of a speech at NASA Kennedy Space Center earlier this year, including on the topic of the space shuttle program closing down: https://youtu.be/--99sqBGHMY?t=70
Including:
The space shuttle program was shut down without any corresponding new programs as far as I know.
SpaceX IS the next program
Good point, though it still seems like Trump is prioritizing space exploration, development and colonization to a much greater degree than Obama. And I am uncertain about whether the total funding decreased under Obama or not - see for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA#Annual_budget . Though it is certain that the budget did not increase greatly, it instead fell considerably for a period of time under Obama.
Furthermore, Obama seemed to have proposed an asteroid mission as well as possibly enabling a crewed mission to Mars in maybe the 2030s, and no lunar mission, while Trump seems intent on giving all the necessary funding to accomplish a crewed mission to the moon in 2024. Trump seem to have a similar goal as Obama reg. Mars in the 2030s. And the budget for NASA seem to have increased considerably under Trump so far.
And firing thousands of NASA employees seem off - SpaceX seem really good at certain things, but wasn't and isn't there a very large amount of expertise, knowledge, etc. that NASA is still much more proficient in than SpaceX and other private companies? Such as fundamental research?
I'm not sure if you want me to say Obama was worse. Of course. He was antiscience. Antieducation. Antilife. He left us for dead. It was intentional. Deliberate. China will not win. We have spirit! We will conquer the universe someday. I'm promining asteroids. Obviously there are factors that need proper study. If we enlarged the planet too much it is the same as trashing our environment. We need new standards in economics if we enlarge our planet with unnecessary amounts if gold and silver. Planetary anarchy (internationalism) needs to be rewritten in light of this new exploration front. Luxury Space Communism is a joke. We need physicists in space, not political types. Your space law isn't bigger than my space gun.
Edit: i take that back we do need politicians in space. One way tickets into the sun.
Are you drunk? Or just trolling or shilling?
Wow. For a second there, I thought I was talking to someone smart.
This is an under appreciated aspect of large scale space settlement. Essentially, any organization or individual with a rocket engine and a 30 meter asteroid becomes the equivalent of a de facto nuclear power.
That is going to require a rethink of policy and defense on a scale that has hardly been mentioned, let alone seriously examined.
Smart smart smart smart smart. Thank you for being smart.
I don't see us sending a person to Mars for another couple decades. Unless we can engineer a new propulsion method, liquid rockets ain't gonna cut it. 9 months on a space ship? You'd go insane.
But even if you survive to Mars, you have another 9 months back home. Almost two years of space travel, doesn't seem very likely yet. Let's go to the moon first. If we could set up a launch pad on the moon or in orbit, that changes things considerably.
Probably a one way trip for the first few heroes who choose to be enshrined as the first in all of human history.
100% will be
Building? They successfully flew the prototype yesterday. Elon will have the Starship operational in 3-4 years.
It was a very cool test. I was a concerned with what looked like a leak just over the engine bell, so it's good they had a camera there to catch it. I wonder what would've happened if the test lasted longer.
Things to improve for next time.
What kind of propulsion does it use? Until we figure out a way to bend space time, these are exploratory missions only. Unless we really would send a couple astronauts on a one way mission.
Pfft, I could do that easily. Of course I could never pass the tests to become an astronaut, but confined to a ship for 9 months would be a cakewalk for me.
You say that. But try to imagine nothing. You can't do it can you? When we think if nothing, we think of air. There's literally nothing in space. I imagine the signal from the ship to earth would take a good couple minutes to be received. Can't watch internet porn on that kinda connection.
Trust me, this would be a cakewalk for me, provided we could bring some sort of entertainment. Like a kindle with books, and/or some sort of video games. I could do 9 months standing on my head.
Just treat it like an opportunity. Do a whole bunch of studying and then read some fiction for entertainment when you get bored of it. Or try to read as many classic books as you can. I imagine a lot of people could do it if they just thought about it this way.
But if there was literally nothing to do, then it would be really hard. I'd definitely need a kindle and maybe some other form of entertainment as well.
3 months every two years.
If they can make those giant Corellian Battlecruisers, we can figure something out to get us there in days.
Yeah, maybe 500 hundred years from now.
Why the hell would anyone want to live on Mars?
No blm.
You got me there lol.
Book me for the first flight!
Bureau of Land Management?
Why the fuck not? If it weren't for people being curious, this amazing country wouldn't fucking exist. And the way were going, the leftists are gonna burn this planet down, so we might as well have a backup
I say we take our country back and send all the leftist to Mars.
red planet after all
I'm the most introverted person on the planet, sounds like an awesome place to go.
Less competition on Tinder.
Amen
Thank you Elon, very cool.
I cant wait for my ghost to haunt someone who thinks Make Mars Great Again is racist!
The Nazis would have been busy trying to conquer America and destroy freedom everywhere. We should not have had relations with the Soviet Union but Hitler was a monster too. Both were horrible.
We face 2 possible future. This one as Musk outlines. Or one where we are stranded on this rock, stuck in perpetual civil disorder world wide because of tribal caveman brained poop slingers who continue to push communism and authoritarianism.
How can any sane person even want the latter option?
CNN: "Elon Musk thinks the moon is a planet, is he really the one that should lead the space race?"
We NEED this more than people know. The traitor Obama set us back a decade, I fully believe he held us back and the goal was to give China a huge head start to the moon.
If China beats us to the moon and claims it, we will be in a very bad spot.
Trump Mars Base!!!
Too much Doom has made me scared shitless of Mars lol.
Helium-3 = Fusion energy! The Moon is saturated with by the sun 24/7.
Having been connected to NASA through family members, I love space exploration.
But reading this tweet makes me think of the Tower of Babel. 🤔
No other planet besides Earth can support human life.
SPACE FORCE MOON BASE CONFIRMED
Lets not put the cart before the horse Elon.
Hurry up and build starnet though....
Come on based Elon.....say that Socialism doesn't work.
Just wait until we find the coronavirus on the moon and Mars.
In before multi-planetary life is racist/white privilege/white supremacist.
Please tell me the plan is to send libtards to Mars.
BOOTS ON THE MOON!
well if you know what the muslims would like best is to get into space and colonize many planets with their religion ...
I mean if anyone gets to put his nuts on the table and tell ya what he’s going to do next in space, it’s him
Moon base biotch!
Nice dream. Democrats will interfere.
And let's not have Antifa, BLM, Pedo-Cultists, Inter-galactic trafficking and George Soros Globalists on the Moon and Mars.
Send the globalists and communists to Mars and let us Patriots stay on the earth. In exchange, we will not attack them and they will not attack us.
Red is the color of communism anyway so it is only fair that they get the red planet!
The moon will be a vacation spot by the end of Trump's second term
Where do I sign up? Return ticket not necessary. Engineer with lots of skills with tools and repairing things. Ready to build the moon base. Can I have a moon buggy too?
This is good place to recommend the series "For All Mankind". It's a pretty good show, it's an alternate history where the Russians beat us to the moon (but we got the first lunar base in 1972) and the space race never ended. Season 2 looks to be off the hook.
Season 1 covered June 1969 through Dec 1974...with an after credits scene in the finale of 1983.
It does have a little SJW stuff, but it's not too painful.
Nixon's women, a group of female astronauts recruited after the Russians put a woman on the moon. so it kinda makes sense, since the Russians really did put the first woman in space in 1963.
A couple of gay character that serve no real function other than how to show everyone is a homophobe.
We choose to go to Mahs! We choose to go to Mahs and do the other things! Not because it is easy but because it is hahd!
Elon musk is gonna kill lots of idiots who want to colozine Mars.
After hearing musk praise the chinese commies the other day, I don't want him anywhere near our space program. Fuck him.
I didn't hear what he said, but he's definitely a Trump voter. Unfortunately a Satanic parasite has latched onto him in the form of Jezebel. She apparently seduced him with sexual pleasure, including bringing in female celebrities for threesomes.
You're right about that.
Everyone likes threesomes. Sex is not evil.
No but it's corrupting.
Rich celebrities aren't "everyone". Most of them are pedophiles
He basically jokingly said that the people in China don't bitch and complain about everything like in the U.S. He wasn't talking about republicans for sure.
He just built a factory near Shanghai and would probably say and do anything that the CCP wants him to as well as not saying anything they do not want him to.
Elon-Chan is based af. You're looking for reasons to dismiss our biggest ally. Shush.
Elon is compromised. His wife is a spy for the occult.
he didnt marry her, just had a kid.