Both countries are known for easy corruption and low safety standards.
Frankly it is stupid to ignore the obvious just because some cloak and dagger fan fiction is more fun to theorize about. This was just a total breakdown of professionalism that caught up with this irresponsible storage.
The building was clearly on fire first and had been for a while.
Now, that fire could have been intentionally set, but nothing I can see indicates a bomb was used.
This looks like a lot of other industrial accidents. First a fire, rages out of control, eventually the chemical store reaches a critical temperature and pressure, then the whole thing explodes.
It certainly could be terrorism, and there are clearly motivated parties in the vicinity, but no evidence suggests terrorism at this point.
If anyone has evidence of terrorism, please share.
Evidence of terrorism? You are a bit defensive and very focused on this topic.
I'm not here saying it was terrorism. I am examining the video and speculating a bomb meant to look like an accidental explosion is possible. We have people saying it was a bomb. People with info we will never possess. Yet we have armchair folks saying it's not because some Chinese explosion.
The shape of the pressure wave does not look like what you'd see when the roof blows off a warehouse. We have plenty of industrial accident footage and this does indeed look different.
I'm just asking questions and trying to figure it out myself, thanks for replying.
A fire was happening beforehand but the slow motion of the explosion shows 3 landmarks having detonation from underneath. They made sure their target was obliterated and used the fire as cover.
I hadn't noticed the detonations you mention, I'll have a closer look.
Still, the detonations you mention could be something other than intentional explosives.
Is there something about them that suggests they were intentional and not from some other cause like gas lines or smaller caches of stored combustibles?
Edit: going back and looking at more footage, you can see a number of smaller explosions going off beforehand, that look like munitions igniting and exploding, which intensified the fire and eventually set of the larger explosion.
Maybe some group needed to hide missiles, ammo, weapons, rockets and bombs. They felt it would be a safe place since it is highly explosive yet has been safe for 6 years. It's also the last place someone would think to look for a stash of weaponry.
This type of thing has happened several times the Morgan depot explosion in the US was very similar filled with conspiracy stories as well. The stuff is highly volotile and shouldnt have even been stored in that location.
Why not?
Reports show that it has been there for a long time. Likely just left to "rot" because there was no way to move it.
It was an accident waiting to happen. Just like the one that happened in China a few years back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993wlZ6XFSs
Both countries are known for easy corruption and low safety standards.
Frankly it is stupid to ignore the obvious just because some cloak and dagger fan fiction is more fun to theorize about. This was just a total breakdown of professionalism that caught up with this irresponsible storage.
Hezbollah who controls Lebanon definitely would never use that stuff to make bombs
Agreed. They do love fireworks though, so they get a bad reputation sometimes.
Hezbollah don't really need old fertiliser, their overlords in Tehran provide the real thing freely.
Six years and nothing has happened. I've seen this same message 3 times now.
If someone wanted to start a conflict or take out assets in a port, it makes for a real easy target.
It also provides an easy explanation. Anyone suggesting otherwise is using"fan fiction."
The building was clearly on fire first and had been for a while.
Now, that fire could have been intentionally set, but nothing I can see indicates a bomb was used.
This looks like a lot of other industrial accidents. First a fire, rages out of control, eventually the chemical store reaches a critical temperature and pressure, then the whole thing explodes.
It certainly could be terrorism, and there are clearly motivated parties in the vicinity, but no evidence suggests terrorism at this point.
If anyone has evidence of terrorism, please share.
Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
I'm kind of leaning more towards bomb now:
https://thedonald.win/p/GbyJ5ez2/x/c/15HbbaR8AU
But at first Occam and Hanlon were my thoughts as well.
Evidence of terrorism? You are a bit defensive and very focused on this topic.
I'm not here saying it was terrorism. I am examining the video and speculating a bomb meant to look like an accidental explosion is possible. We have people saying it was a bomb. People with info we will never possess. Yet we have armchair folks saying it's not because some Chinese explosion.
After looking more, it really does look like a bomb:
https://thedonald.win/p/GbyJ5vtv/massive-beirut-explosion--afterm/c/
The shape of the pressure wave does not look like what you'd see when the roof blows off a warehouse. We have plenty of industrial accident footage and this does indeed look different.
I'm just asking questions and trying to figure it out myself, thanks for replying.
A fire was happening beforehand but the slow motion of the explosion shows 3 landmarks having detonation from underneath. They made sure their target was obliterated and used the fire as cover.
I hadn't noticed the detonations you mention, I'll have a closer look.
Still, the detonations you mention could be something other than intentional explosives.
Is there something about them that suggests they were intentional and not from some other cause like gas lines or smaller caches of stored combustibles?
Edit: going back and looking at more footage, you can see a number of smaller explosions going off beforehand, that look like munitions igniting and exploding, which intensified the fire and eventually set of the larger explosion.
Maybe someone heard that it wasn't going to be sitting there for much longer.
Maybe some group needed to hide missiles, ammo, weapons, rockets and bombs. They felt it would be a safe place since it is highly explosive yet has been safe for 6 years. It's also the last place someone would think to look for a stash of weaponry.
Yup
So what is the proper time period for an accident?
What's the proper time period of an attack? An attack that looks like an accident? We could do this all day.
This type of thing has happened several times the Morgan depot explosion in the US was very similar filled with conspiracy stories as well. The stuff is highly volotile and shouldnt have even been stored in that location.
Or it was stored to hide something else