Out of the past million years though 900,000 of them have included glaciers down to about Missouri and sea ice down to Florida. If that trend continues, and it likely will, we might be glad for a little extra co2 in the atmosphere. Co2 levels are still fairly low compared to what they were historically as well, despite the screeching.
Milankovitch cycles dictate long term climate. The mechanisms coupling long term and short term climate are still "under review" by todays climate "experts"
Look at Permian era climate and what caused the series of extinctions. The ocean had to get up to 104 F, its currently nowhere close. Its worth noting that while Antarctica's west shelf is melting, its eastern portion is growing considerably.
My feeling is that the contribution by man is present - I'm old enough to remember flying into LA before they started cleaning the air - the sun is the most significant factor, and is so large a factor, it's ridiculous to think our best efforts to trash the planet are stronger.
But i do think we need a cleaner planet. i'm all for clean air and water, but not as a gateway drug to communism/socialism/globalist fuckery.
Glad to see this here. We know the damn climate is changing, but why do all the proposed solutions line up perfectly with leftist political goals? :bigThonk:
There was a couple of guys on Rogan last year or the year before who were submitting made up research on the goofiest shit they could come up with, to prove how much of peer reviewed science is junk science. Google Peter Boghossian & James Lindsay.
A lot of it got published, as "peer reviewed". No fact checking, it all just had the right keywords and social justice word salads.
Now imagine the pressure to rubber stamp anything in the climate change bubble.
You’re forgetting disenfranchisement technique as in you can’t go to school you can’t go to a restaurant you can’t go back to work you can’t go to stores you can’t leave your house because you haven’t gotten your vaccine
Your comment made me smile because your not having a precise source reminded me of an exchange between two people in a chat room:
Some stranger: "Masks are ineffective"
Leftist: "By not backing up your claim with any kind of source, I can only assume you're a troll who intends for people to kill each other by not wearing masks."
When asked about it by other people, the leftist dug their heels in; they believed their statement 100%.
sCiEncE dEniEr
Me: I don’t think climate change is real.
Them: You don’t believe science?!
Me: I don’t think COVID is as bad as we’re being told.
Them: You don’t believe science?!
Me: I think there are only two genders
Them: You don’t believe, ummm, my feelings?!
been using this EXACT logic on all my cali "woke" friends. it actually has been a decent redpill tool! MAGA!
Man made CC is real to an extent, but that doesn’t mean socialism is the solution
It's some part of the climate equation no doubt.
Out of the past million years though 900,000 of them have included glaciers down to about Missouri and sea ice down to Florida. If that trend continues, and it likely will, we might be glad for a little extra co2 in the atmosphere. Co2 levels are still fairly low compared to what they were historically as well, despite the screeching.
This is true, however rising water levels in coastal cities ain’t gonna be good. Wait.. Coastal cities... California... New York...
Second thought, maybe that will be good.
Milankovitch cycles dictate long term climate. The mechanisms coupling long term and short term climate are still "under review" by todays climate "experts"
"Man Made Climate Change is Real"
translates to
"The world would be different, without humans."
Hard to disagree with that! But where do you go from there?
That's why I love President Trump's Administration's focus on Clean Air and Clean Water.
Yep, pollution and it's direct impact on health is way more important than propping up globalist extortion.
Answer: nuclear power.
Which, thankfully, Trump and some in Congress are supporting as well.
Look at Permian era climate and what caused the series of extinctions. The ocean had to get up to 104 F, its currently nowhere close. Its worth noting that while Antarctica's west shelf is melting, its eastern portion is growing considerably.
My feeling is that the contribution by man is present - I'm old enough to remember flying into LA before they started cleaning the air - the sun is the most significant factor, and is so large a factor, it's ridiculous to think our best efforts to trash the planet are stronger.
But i do think we need a cleaner planet. i'm all for clean air and water, but not as a gateway drug to communism/socialism/globalist fuckery.
Exactly. Should we not be good sovereigns?
My point is that any deviation from "it is 100% settled science!" causes Leftists to scream that you're ignorant.
Glad to see this here. We know the damn climate is changing, but why do all the proposed solutions line up perfectly with leftist political goals? :bigThonk:
The left has had a fair bit of success with that.
There was a couple of guys on Rogan last year or the year before who were submitting made up research on the goofiest shit they could come up with, to prove how much of peer reviewed science is junk science. Google Peter Boghossian & James Lindsay.
A lot of it got published, as "peer reviewed". No fact checking, it all just had the right keywords and social justice word salads.
Now imagine the pressure to rubber stamp anything in the climate change bubble.
The academic world is NOT happy with these guys.
Science does make everything better
Its MA'AM you fucking bigot
Biologist here. Two genders.
Speaking of "trust science," that's one of the techniques being used in clinical trials to see if it will convince people to take a COVID vaccine.
Options they are studying include: Guilt message, Embarrassment message, Anger message, Trust in science message
You’re forgetting disenfranchisement technique as in you can’t go to school you can’t go to a restaurant you can’t go back to work you can’t go to stores you can’t leave your house because you haven’t gotten your vaccine
Your comment made me smile because your not having a precise source reminded me of an exchange between two people in a chat room:
Some stranger: "Masks are ineffective"
Leftist: "By not backing up your claim with any kind of source, I can only assume you're a troll who intends for people to kill each other by not wearing masks."
When asked about it by other people, the leftist dug their heels in; they believed their statement 100%.