Tweaking meth with ballon of fentanyl laced smack up his ass/down his throat that gets into the blood stream right about the time he gets tossed on the ground by the cops.
Cops think he passed out/finally gave up, but in actuality it’s respiratory arrest.
It’s above my head but I’d be interested to see what someone who understands it has to say.
With fentanyl, we shoot for 1-2ng/ml for pain control and 10-11ng/ml for full sedation. The average, non-tolerant male begins to experience the respiratory arrest to the point of needing either ventilatory support or naloxone is in the range of 7ng/ml.
Fentanyl LD50 is in the range of 2mg for a 75kg male.
LD50 for meth is 150mg. Same 75kg male.
But agitated delirium is a whole separate process and isn’t necessarily dose dependent.
No clue how to translate either number into ng/ml and it would vary person to person, but 2+mg of fentanyl laced in a bag of smack seems pretty reasonable in my uninitiated opinion.
Edit to add I’d be interested to see a full blood/tox panel from the autopsy. Not gonna pretend that I know more that a medical examiner, but I bet it’s probably pretty telling.
That’s definitely a thought.
Tweaking meth with ballon of fentanyl laced smack up his ass/down his throat that gets into the blood stream right about the time he gets tossed on the ground by the cops.
Cops think he passed out/finally gave up, but in actuality it’s respiratory arrest.
It’s above my head but I’d be interested to see what someone who understands it has to say.
With fentanyl, we shoot for 1-2ng/ml for pain control and 10-11ng/ml for full sedation. The average, non-tolerant male begins to experience the respiratory arrest to the point of needing either ventilatory support or naloxone is in the range of 7ng/ml.
Fentanyl LD50 is in the range of 2mg for a 75kg male.
LD50 for meth is 150mg. Same 75kg male.
But agitated delirium is a whole separate process and isn’t necessarily dose dependent.
No clue how to translate either number into ng/ml and it would vary person to person, but 2+mg of fentanyl laced in a bag of smack seems pretty reasonable in my uninitiated opinion.
Edit to add I’d be interested to see a full blood/tox panel from the autopsy. Not gonna pretend that I know more that a medical examiner, but I bet it’s probably pretty telling.