The "Brown Shirts" were formed in response to Pantifa attacking and intimidating people into supporting communism. Eventually people got the hint that either you sided with the commies or you banded together under one banner. Adolf Hitler wanted to fix his nation and improve the conditions where as the commies... Well I don't think I need to explain what they want. With his speeches, his service during the first World War, on top of actually caring about his fellow countrymen this inspired people to follow him.
Once you start learning history you might notice that many of the same slanders used against The GEOTUS are the same as used against Adolf Hitler. Both men care about their nation and stood up to fight for their nation no matter what it cost them. We're watching shit repeat in a slightly different way... The real question is how things will turn out in the end this time...? It's funny that the Brits interviewed some survivors from the war and asked them if they could do it all over again would they... Many of them said no but a larger number went so far as to say that they would side with Hitler after seeing what "victory" got them...
Hitler had his nation destroyed and then split among the victors along with all the young german men/women/children who died in wars he started over dubious reasons. How was hitler pro german?
They don't tell you this but Poland was massacring it's German population and that's why he invaded. He tried to get the German part of the country brought into Germany peacefully like what he did in Czechoslovakia but Poland wasn't willing to negotiate.
So what was his excuse for invading france, operation barbarossa, botching the battle of britain, declaring war on america when america was not at war with germany, constantly overriding his own generals, etc. Hitlers megalomania killed countless germans. Hitlers tolerance for christianity only extended as far as using the church to spread nazism.
France and Britain declared war on Germany after the invasion. As for Russia, I heard that they were in a cold war of sorts after the Poland deal and Hitler thought it was smarter to be the first to strike. America was pretty simple, after Japan declared war Germany followed suit because they were allies.
France had been tormenting Germany since well before WW1.
Operation Barbarossa, the Soviet Union was also getting ready to invade Germany, Hitler just beat them to the punch. Check out the White Wars, where America invaded Russia/USSR. The Russians weren't altar boys, they were invading as much of Europe as they could. Ever hear of Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, myfingersaregettingtired?
Botching the Battle of Britain??? WTF, where is your head???
Hitler declared war on America because Roosevelt/America was supplying Britain with war materiel and helping the USSR, among other things. Further, Germany honored her treaty obligations with Japan, as the US honored her treaty obligations with other belligerents. The only reason that Britain attacked Germany was because of their treaty with Poland. That, and Churchill's long standing animosity against Germany.
Hitler's megalomania was non-existant, just made up as part of the propaganda of the Allies. Same as people always call The Donald crazy, stupid, crooked, etc...
Grab a History book. Read same. Actually, the facts are usually there, even in ones with a bias agains Hitler. (Which they all are). When you see an issue that you think makes Hitler a jerk, do research on it.
First of all, read up on The Polish Corridor, the Danzig Corridor. The Treaty of Versailles. Also, Germany's access to sea ports. Then, read up on the plebiscites that took place in the 20s in re the same, and the German ethnic community in the Corridor.
I won't give you more cites that April 30, 1927. Hitler calls down one of the Strasser brothers (I keep confusing Otto and Gregor...it was the one that was in charge of the Party for Northern Germany) for being a Marxist/Socialist, telling him that the Nazis weren't the fucking commies/Bolshevists/Marxists, and weren't going to have any of it.
As I said I'm not giving references, because the "Nazis are Socialists" can be debunked with just a little research, and I'm tired of giving them. It's like persuading the liberals that The Donald wasn't colluding with Russia. They don't listen to facts, just what some detractor mumbled once.
At any rate: Hitler said that he was in no way a Communist. He said that the Marxists abused the word 'Socialist', and he was reclaiming it,
Again, I'm weary of trying to debunk this, but, if you want start out by checking out Mein Kampf, and see what Hitler said about Hitler.
What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish, we shall be in a position to achieve.
Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 149
After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.
Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288
I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it… National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.
As quoted in The Voice of Destruction, Hermann Rauschning, New York, NY, G.P. Putnam’s Sons (1940) p. 186, this book is also known as Hitler Speaks
What the world did not deem possible the German people have achieved…. It is already war history how the German Armies defeated the legions of capitalism and plutocracy. After forty-five days this campaign in the West was equally and emphatically terminated.
“Adolf Hitler’s Order of the Day Calling for Invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece,” Berlin, (April 6, 1941), New York Times, April 7, 1941
To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.
Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler, 4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 31-33. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 , published by Chatto & Windus in 1971
This is going to be quick and sloppy, but, as I said, I'm tired of qualifying my statements with references.
Wagener's first quote is unclear. If genuine, WTF did the Fuhrer even mean? He most certainly did NOT nationalize Germany's means of production. Perhaps he meant the unity of Germany under one flag?? Perhaps he meant one party controlled the nation? Perhaps he meant adequate food for his nation?
Here, OW was referring to early Nazi history, as that's what his book was. The Nazis had a substantial number of socialists in the SA, of which Wagener was a member. Hitler worked to get the Marxist socialists out. See my other reference in this thread. They, weren't a clearly defined organization doctrine wise, but, later, H started kicking butt and pulling the Marxist socialists out, or letting them know that they needed to rethink or leave. Rohm, their leader under whom OW worked, was Marx socialist. But, Hitler was the Leader. And, he was the absolute leader; his role was as head of the party, with ZERO room for negotiation. If he said they weren't a Marxist organization, they weren't a Marxist organization-Period. After Hjalmer Schacht introduced Hitler to industrialists, financiers, etc...he made clear that he allowed private ownership of businesses, land, etc... As I said, I'm not going to reinvent the wheel, so, if you want more on this, keep researching, don't google Hitler socialism for some quot.
Hitler's definition of 'socialism' is different from that of the Marxists. Remember when I wrote that in this very thread??? That is the reason that I wrote it. If I say I love Communism, and my definition of Communism is molesting chickens, you'd be a fool to say that I was a Marxist, wouldn't you?? H said that he was 'taking back' the word from the Marxists/Bolsheviks. I don't see how you can stay married to your interpretation after such clear disambiguation, from the man himself.
Let me give you a tip, that will save you from considerable embarrassment: Do not quote Rauschning unless you are at a Thelema Lodge, or a Thule Society meetiing. A word to the wise, my friend. Further, H saying that he learned from Marxism is no endorsement of it. One of his many quotes which define him are that, in his reading, he 'kept the essential, and disregarded the non-essential.'
Again, reading is your friend. Hitler's definition of 'capitalism' was "Jewish interest slavery." Cf. F.eder.
Much argument here. Look, we both hate commies, and so did Hitler.
View it this way: I suspect that you are a Republican, as am I. Now, consider Songbird McCain, Paul Ryan, etc... They call themselves Republicans, while we know that they are commie globalist scum.
So, if you do call yourself a Republican, you must support Songbird and Ryan, because they are Republicans, right? Of course not, We call ourselves the real Republicans, and we practically get sick when we are put in the same category as these. THAT is how Hitler was with Marxism. He said "WE are the real Socialists (more of just grabbing a good name, rather than being Marxist). WE are getting back our good name, just like peltast and CuomoisaMassMurderer are doing with the word 'Republican'." OK, maybe he didn't say that last part, but, the point stands.
ETA: Brief history tableau: At Hitler's trial, he said he wanted to have written as his memorial "The Destroyer of Bolshevism."
The "Brown Shirts" were formed in response to Pantifa attacking and intimidating people into supporting communism. Eventually people got the hint that either you sided with the commies or you banded together under one banner. Adolf Hitler wanted to fix his nation and improve the conditions where as the commies... Well I don't think I need to explain what they want. With his speeches, his service during the first World War, on top of actually caring about his fellow countrymen this inspired people to follow him.
Once you start learning history you might notice that many of the same slanders used against The GEOTUS are the same as used against Adolf Hitler. Both men care about their nation and stood up to fight for their nation no matter what it cost them. We're watching shit repeat in a slightly different way... The real question is how things will turn out in the end this time...? It's funny that the Brits interviewed some survivors from the war and asked them if they could do it all over again would they... Many of them said no but a larger number went so far as to say that they would side with Hitler after seeing what "victory" got them...
Hitler had his nation destroyed and then split among the victors along with all the young german men/women/children who died in wars he started over dubious reasons. How was hitler pro german?
No, it was like appointing Hamilton as Secretary of the Treasury.
Do you know who Hitler even was?
I have an idea..
They don't tell you this but Poland was massacring it's German population and that's why he invaded. He tried to get the German part of the country brought into Germany peacefully like what he did in Czechoslovakia but Poland wasn't willing to negotiate.
I’m Polish. Poland was definitely not massacring Germans, that’s completely retarded.
Here's the polish massacring of the German minorities and the many times Poland threatened war with Germany. http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
So what was his excuse for invading france, operation barbarossa, botching the battle of britain, declaring war on america when america was not at war with germany, constantly overriding his own generals, etc. Hitlers megalomania killed countless germans. Hitlers tolerance for christianity only extended as far as using the church to spread nazism.
France and Britain declared war on Germany after the invasion. As for Russia, I heard that they were in a cold war of sorts after the Poland deal and Hitler thought it was smarter to be the first to strike. America was pretty simple, after Japan declared war Germany followed suit because they were allies.
France had been tormenting Germany since well before WW1.
Operation Barbarossa, the Soviet Union was also getting ready to invade Germany, Hitler just beat them to the punch. Check out the White Wars, where America invaded Russia/USSR. The Russians weren't altar boys, they were invading as much of Europe as they could. Ever hear of Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, myfingersaregettingtired?
Botching the Battle of Britain??? WTF, where is your head???
Hitler declared war on America because Roosevelt/America was supplying Britain with war materiel and helping the USSR, among other things. Further, Germany honored her treaty obligations with Japan, as the US honored her treaty obligations with other belligerents. The only reason that Britain attacked Germany was because of their treaty with Poland. That, and Churchill's long standing animosity against Germany.
Hitler's megalomania was non-existant, just made up as part of the propaganda of the Allies. Same as people always call The Donald crazy, stupid, crooked, etc...
Grab a History book. Read same. Actually, the facts are usually there, even in ones with a bias agains Hitler. (Which they all are). When you see an issue that you think makes Hitler a jerk, do research on it.
First of all, read up on The Polish Corridor, the Danzig Corridor. The Treaty of Versailles. Also, Germany's access to sea ports. Then, read up on the plebiscites that took place in the 20s in re the same, and the German ethnic community in the Corridor.
Don't even pretend "Hitler did nothing wrong."
Oy vey
I feel like you're forgetting what the issue is...I can't quite put my finger on it...
Hitler was a faggot socialist. Nice try at glorifying socialism tho.
Sorry, pal, you are misinformed.
I won't give you more cites that April 30, 1927. Hitler calls down one of the Strasser brothers (I keep confusing Otto and Gregor...it was the one that was in charge of the Party for Northern Germany) for being a Marxist/Socialist, telling him that the Nazis weren't the fucking commies/Bolshevists/Marxists, and weren't going to have any of it.
As I said I'm not giving references, because the "Nazis are Socialists" can be debunked with just a little research, and I'm tired of giving them. It's like persuading the liberals that The Donald wasn't colluding with Russia. They don't listen to facts, just what some detractor mumbled once.
At any rate: Hitler said that he was in no way a Communist. He said that the Marxists abused the word 'Socialist', and he was reclaiming it,
Again, I'm weary of trying to debunk this, but, if you want start out by checking out Mein Kampf, and see what Hitler said about Hitler.
What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish, we shall be in a position to achieve.
Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 149
After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.
Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288
I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it… National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.
As quoted in The Voice of Destruction, Hermann Rauschning, New York, NY, G.P. Putnam’s Sons (1940) p. 186, this book is also known as Hitler Speaks
What the world did not deem possible the German people have achieved…. It is already war history how the German Armies defeated the legions of capitalism and plutocracy. After forty-five days this campaign in the West was equally and emphatically terminated.
“Adolf Hitler’s Order of the Day Calling for Invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece,” Berlin, (April 6, 1941), New York Times, April 7, 1941
To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.
Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler, 4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 31-33. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 , published by Chatto & Windus in 1971
This is going to be quick and sloppy, but, as I said, I'm tired of qualifying my statements with references.
Wagener's first quote is unclear. If genuine, WTF did the Fuhrer even mean? He most certainly did NOT nationalize Germany's means of production. Perhaps he meant the unity of Germany under one flag?? Perhaps he meant one party controlled the nation? Perhaps he meant adequate food for his nation?
Here, OW was referring to early Nazi history, as that's what his book was. The Nazis had a substantial number of socialists in the SA, of which Wagener was a member. Hitler worked to get the Marxist socialists out. See my other reference in this thread. They, weren't a clearly defined organization doctrine wise, but, later, H started kicking butt and pulling the Marxist socialists out, or letting them know that they needed to rethink or leave. Rohm, their leader under whom OW worked, was Marx socialist. But, Hitler was the Leader. And, he was the absolute leader; his role was as head of the party, with ZERO room for negotiation. If he said they weren't a Marxist organization, they weren't a Marxist organization-Period. After Hjalmer Schacht introduced Hitler to industrialists, financiers, etc...he made clear that he allowed private ownership of businesses, land, etc... As I said, I'm not going to reinvent the wheel, so, if you want more on this, keep researching, don't google Hitler socialism for some quot.
Hitler's definition of 'socialism' is different from that of the Marxists. Remember when I wrote that in this very thread??? That is the reason that I wrote it. If I say I love Communism, and my definition of Communism is molesting chickens, you'd be a fool to say that I was a Marxist, wouldn't you?? H said that he was 'taking back' the word from the Marxists/Bolsheviks. I don't see how you can stay married to your interpretation after such clear disambiguation, from the man himself.
Let me give you a tip, that will save you from considerable embarrassment: Do not quote Rauschning unless you are at a Thelema Lodge, or a Thule Society meetiing. A word to the wise, my friend. Further, H saying that he learned from Marxism is no endorsement of it. One of his many quotes which define him are that, in his reading, he 'kept the essential, and disregarded the non-essential.'
Again, reading is your friend. Hitler's definition of 'capitalism' was "Jewish interest slavery." Cf. F.eder.
Hitler was NOT a Marxist socialist.
Hitler was a socialist. That's Marxism. The only good Marxist is a dead Marxist. Hitler is dead. No problem.
Join us in the present. The only good Marxist is a dead Marxist.
No argument here.
Much argument here. Look, we both hate commies, and so did Hitler.
View it this way: I suspect that you are a Republican, as am I. Now, consider Songbird McCain, Paul Ryan, etc... They call themselves Republicans, while we know that they are commie globalist scum.
So, if you do call yourself a Republican, you must support Songbird and Ryan, because they are Republicans, right? Of course not, We call ourselves the real Republicans, and we practically get sick when we are put in the same category as these. THAT is how Hitler was with Marxism. He said "WE are the real Socialists (more of just grabbing a good name, rather than being Marxist). WE are getting back our good name, just like peltast and CuomoisaMassMurderer are doing with the word 'Republican'." OK, maybe he didn't say that last part, but, the point stands.
ETA: Brief history tableau: At Hitler's trial, he said he wanted to have written as his memorial "The Destroyer of Bolshevism."
Do you happen to have Hitler's weimar republic speech by chance?