But they'd tell the church what could be preached, and your property had to be used the way the government told you to use it, which is private property in name only. National socialists did everything the regular socialists did, just with a transparent film of faux separation in between.
Martin Luther was a national hero in Germany, and Hitler was Catholic. The state did not interfere with the church because Christian religious expression was seen as part of the German identity.
You could own a house and a car. Germans were encouraged to save money to buy (get it? buy!) a Volkswagen. You could also own a business, or a bank account, or change jobs. While the State was the biggest actor in the economy, the State is the biggest actor in OUR economy too. It's always the biggest actor.
What you could not do was speak, act or protest against the State. This is horrible. This is also true in communist countries. So let's look at Communism real quick.
No massive starvation in Germany like in the USSR. In fact, Germany became a massive power after 15 years of a great depression and having territory taken away after WW1. Could socialism have done this? Of course not. The USSR, despite having all the natural resources you can imagine, imported food from the West.
I know we like to romanticize our past. But the result of World War 2 was to open a lane for the expansion of Communism, and now it's in our country. Was it designed as such? No one knows. But, hyper-progressive President during the war...maybe it was. Maybe the post-war nationalism was like the period after 9/11, a nation united....and faded away, giving way to Communist bullshit which opened our borders in 1965, infected our schools and media soon after, and we see the results now.
"What you could not do was speak, act or protest against the State. This is horrible."
This is not just "horrible," it is the root of the gross violations of liberty by the Nazi state. The Communist Chinese similarly claim not to interfere in religion, but it is plain from viewing a Chinese aboveground church that it is not the case. The Nazis were not concerned with theology, but they were very concerned with social beliefs. German churches who wanted to stay on good terms with the government had to expel baptized Jews and anything preached that was judged to be detrimental to the state (which depended on what the state thought might be threatening, not whether the pastor actually meant) risked government interference. And calling Hitler a Catholic is the height of ludicrousness. His actions betray that he was no more a Catholic than is Nancy Pelosi, no matter what he may have been baptized as. Furthermore, the ranks of the Nazis were rife with pagans and neo-pagans who preferred a non-Christian concept of God. It is true that the Nazis loved to use Martin Luther's writings, but only insofar as it aided the goals of the Nazi regime and the campaign against Jewish influence.
All of these violations of free religion and free speech are the primary evil of the Nazi government. I don't care if the trains run on time or if I'm starving to death if the state is arresting pastors and priests or forcing Christian Jews to be expelled from the church. You may consider eating horse crap superior to eating cow chips, but both are crap and have no merits that change that or make one objectively preferable to the other as a daily meal.
As for entering World War II, the comparison of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union make little difference. If we wanted to avoid war, then it was Japan we had to negotiate with. For that blame Roosevelt all you like. (Regardless, Japan also had a moral duty not to bomb Pearl Harbor when we hadn't committed any acts of war against them.) The reason we were at war with Germany was not the US's fault at all. In fact, Hitler could have avoided war if he wanted. His treaty with Japan did not include offensive wars, and Hitler was not obligated to join them when they attacked Hawaii. But instead, he chose to declare war on us anyway, taking any decision out of our hands. As abhorrent as FDR was, he was not the one who chose war with Germany. That was Hitler.
Re: church. It's not what comes out of the preacher's mouth that matters all that much. It's the mere fact that the gathering was allowed, even encouraged. Right here in the USA, Commies like DeBlasio and others have restricted church services. So on that count, and it's a big one, right now in 2020, American lefties are worse than the Germans. Already. Imagine a lefty president.
Re : "If i'm starving to death". this entire paragraph is crap and not worth a reply because the premise is nonsense. Commies starved, Nazis didn't. Pre war Germany raised the standard of living of millions. The USSR never did that. China has done it through theft and through American leaders selling us out.
It's OK to acknowledge a difference between Nazis and Commies, and it's OK to say the Commies are worse. Because they are
Well, let's try 2020 in the USA, since that's where we vote, live and work.
Black Lives Matter is openly Marxist, and they essentially control a major political party right now. BLM is funded and organized, essentially, by Jews. Susan Rosenberg, a real terrorist, is running things. Pritzker's Libra foundation gives them a ton of money. Different Pritzker than the one who promotes all the tranny stuff. And of course Soros, we know his story.
But here's the thing, friend:
If a far right party emerged and seized control the the republican party (as the far left has with the Dems) Jews would unite against it and speak out every chance they get, as they should. But when a far left party is front and center, espousing ideas that, when implemented elsewhere, made the Holocaust look like a car accident, Jews are silent at best and openly supportive at worst. Very few are openly critical of BLM.
Under nazis you could
None of these were possible under communism
But they never tell us that
Wonder why.
But they'd tell the church what could be preached, and your property had to be used the way the government told you to use it, which is private property in name only. National socialists did everything the regular socialists did, just with a transparent film of faux separation in between.
Nope. None of this is correct.
Martin Luther was a national hero in Germany, and Hitler was Catholic. The state did not interfere with the church because Christian religious expression was seen as part of the German identity.
You could own a house and a car. Germans were encouraged to save money to buy (get it? buy!) a Volkswagen. You could also own a business, or a bank account, or change jobs. While the State was the biggest actor in the economy, the State is the biggest actor in OUR economy too. It's always the biggest actor.
What you could not do was speak, act or protest against the State. This is horrible. This is also true in communist countries. So let's look at Communism real quick.
No massive starvation in Germany like in the USSR. In fact, Germany became a massive power after 15 years of a great depression and having territory taken away after WW1. Could socialism have done this? Of course not. The USSR, despite having all the natural resources you can imagine, imported food from the West.
I know we like to romanticize our past. But the result of World War 2 was to open a lane for the expansion of Communism, and now it's in our country. Was it designed as such? No one knows. But, hyper-progressive President during the war...maybe it was. Maybe the post-war nationalism was like the period after 9/11, a nation united....and faded away, giving way to Communist bullshit which opened our borders in 1965, infected our schools and media soon after, and we see the results now.
"What you could not do was speak, act or protest against the State. This is horrible."
This is not just "horrible," it is the root of the gross violations of liberty by the Nazi state. The Communist Chinese similarly claim not to interfere in religion, but it is plain from viewing a Chinese aboveground church that it is not the case. The Nazis were not concerned with theology, but they were very concerned with social beliefs. German churches who wanted to stay on good terms with the government had to expel baptized Jews and anything preached that was judged to be detrimental to the state (which depended on what the state thought might be threatening, not whether the pastor actually meant) risked government interference. And calling Hitler a Catholic is the height of ludicrousness. His actions betray that he was no more a Catholic than is Nancy Pelosi, no matter what he may have been baptized as. Furthermore, the ranks of the Nazis were rife with pagans and neo-pagans who preferred a non-Christian concept of God. It is true that the Nazis loved to use Martin Luther's writings, but only insofar as it aided the goals of the Nazi regime and the campaign against Jewish influence.
All of these violations of free religion and free speech are the primary evil of the Nazi government. I don't care if the trains run on time or if I'm starving to death if the state is arresting pastors and priests or forcing Christian Jews to be expelled from the church. You may consider eating horse crap superior to eating cow chips, but both are crap and have no merits that change that or make one objectively preferable to the other as a daily meal.
As for entering World War II, the comparison of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union make little difference. If we wanted to avoid war, then it was Japan we had to negotiate with. For that blame Roosevelt all you like. (Regardless, Japan also had a moral duty not to bomb Pearl Harbor when we hadn't committed any acts of war against them.) The reason we were at war with Germany was not the US's fault at all. In fact, Hitler could have avoided war if he wanted. His treaty with Japan did not include offensive wars, and Hitler was not obligated to join them when they attacked Hawaii. But instead, he chose to declare war on us anyway, taking any decision out of our hands. As abhorrent as FDR was, he was not the one who chose war with Germany. That was Hitler.
Hey I appreciate the long reply.
Re: church. It's not what comes out of the preacher's mouth that matters all that much. It's the mere fact that the gathering was allowed, even encouraged. Right here in the USA, Commies like DeBlasio and others have restricted church services. So on that count, and it's a big one, right now in 2020, American lefties are worse than the Germans. Already. Imagine a lefty president.
Re : "If i'm starving to death". this entire paragraph is crap and not worth a reply because the premise is nonsense. Commies starved, Nazis didn't. Pre war Germany raised the standard of living of millions. The USSR never did that. China has done it through theft and through American leaders selling us out.
It's OK to acknowledge a difference between Nazis and Commies, and it's OK to say the Commies are worse. Because they are
Wrong. Read up on history.
Well, considering I'd be murdered for being Jewish, I think I'll pass. Thanks anyway.
You know it's kinda funny
On the far right of the political spectrum, under Nazism, people round up the Jews. On the far left, under Communism, Jews round up the people.
Another believer that all the Communists were Jewish? What a putz.
Yeah, some Jews gave up their religion to become communists. The worst Communist, Stalin, was not Jewish. Nor was Mao. Nor was Castro. Nor was ...
whatever, why argue with morons.
Well, let's try 2020 in the USA, since that's where we vote, live and work.
Black Lives Matter is openly Marxist, and they essentially control a major political party right now. BLM is funded and organized, essentially, by Jews. Susan Rosenberg, a real terrorist, is running things. Pritzker's Libra foundation gives them a ton of money. Different Pritzker than the one who promotes all the tranny stuff. And of course Soros, we know his story.
But here's the thing, friend:
If a far right party emerged and seized control the the republican party (as the far left has with the Dems) Jews would unite against it and speak out every chance they get, as they should. But when a far left party is front and center, espousing ideas that, when implemented elsewhere, made the Holocaust look like a car accident, Jews are silent at best and openly supportive at worst. Very few are openly critical of BLM.