What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish, we shall be in a position to achieve.
Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 149
After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.
Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288
I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it… National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.
As quoted in The Voice of Destruction, Hermann Rauschning, New York, NY, G.P. Putnam’s Sons (1940) p. 186, this book is also known as Hitler Speaks
What the world did not deem possible the German people have achieved…. It is already war history how the German Armies defeated the legions of capitalism and plutocracy. After forty-five days this campaign in the West was equally and emphatically terminated.
“Adolf Hitler’s Order of the Day Calling for Invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece,” Berlin, (April 6, 1941), New York Times, April 7, 1941
To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.
Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler, 4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 31-33. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 , published by Chatto & Windus in 1971
This is going to be quick and sloppy, but, as I said, I'm tired of qualifying my statements with references.
Wagener's first quote is unclear. If genuine, WTF did the Fuhrer even mean? He most certainly did NOT nationalize Germany's means of production. Perhaps he meant the unity of Germany under one flag?? Perhaps he meant one party controlled the nation? Perhaps he meant adequate food for his nation?
Here, OW was referring to early Nazi history, as that's what his book was. The Nazis had a substantial number of socialists in the SA, of which Wagener was a member. Hitler worked to get the Marxist socialists out. See my other reference in this thread. They, weren't a clearly defined organization doctrine wise, but, later, H started kicking butt and pulling the Marxist socialists out, or letting them know that they needed to rethink or leave. Rohm, their leader under whom OW worked, was Marx socialist. But, Hitler was the Leader. And, he was the absolute leader; his role was as head of the party, with ZERO room for negotiation. If he said they weren't a Marxist organization, they weren't a Marxist organization-Period. After Hjalmer Schacht introduced Hitler to industrialists, financiers, etc...he made clear that he allowed private ownership of businesses, land, etc... As I said, I'm not going to reinvent the wheel, so, if you want more on this, keep researching, don't google Hitler socialism for some quot.
Hitler's definition of 'socialism' is different from that of the Marxists. Remember when I wrote that in this very thread??? That is the reason that I wrote it. If I say I love Communism, and my definition of Communism is molesting chickens, you'd be a fool to say that I was a Marxist, wouldn't you?? H said that he was 'taking back' the word from the Marxists/Bolsheviks. I don't see how you can stay married to your interpretation after such clear disambiguation, from the man himself.
Let me give you a tip, that will save you from considerable embarrassment: Do not quote Rauschning unless you are at a Thelema Lodge, or a Thule Society meetiing. A word to the wise, my friend. Further, H saying that he learned from Marxism is no endorsement of it. One of his many quotes which define him are that, in his reading, he 'kept the essential, and disregarded the non-essential.'
Again, reading is your friend. Hitler's definition of 'capitalism' was "Jewish interest slavery." Cf. F.eder.
Lol you have to be kidding me. So essentially your argument is that word's definitions don't matter and we are all supposed to just take your word for it that hitler had different definitions for words?
I don't feel like referencing anything so you will just have to take my word for it that hitler most definitely was a socialist. Every business in Germany was under strict control from the government and at a moments notice had to change its production in order to support the war effort.
So essentially your argument is that word's definitions don't matter and we are all supposed to just take your word for it that hitler had different definitions for words?
LOL, you're being deliberately obtuse, and your little games are reminiscent of a 5th grader's. If you want to understand what a person means, you need to know what they understand words to mean, this is elementary to ANY form of communication. I said you were being deliberately obtuse-I most definitely hope it was deliberate! Otherwise...
I referred you to Mein Kampf for a socialism quote, and gave you a fine date for the Strasser conflict. You are the one acting as if you are the great scholar,the master of all research and academia. This should be less than child's play for a sleuth such as yourself. You want the Doctor's beret, you'll have to put in more work than a pre-schooler.
Keep your Rauschning quotes, and trouble me no more; when you grow up, you can start playing with the big boys.
Lol, your post screams like a child crying, I AM VERY SMART!
Forgive me if I don't put much weight into Mein Kampf, a book written by a liberal arts student. Maybe its while studying art that Hitler learned his ideas of socialism?
Do you deny that the nazi government strictly controlled all aspects of politics and economics in germany during the nazi timeline? That the nazi government set up control boards, cartels, and state-sponsored monopolies and konzerns, which they then carefully regulated?
Hitler wasn't a Marxist but he certainly was a socialist and there is a wealth of information that proves beyond any doubt that Nazi Germany was a failed socialist state.
Hitler's socialist policies led to the compete destruction of Germany and the loss of millions of lives.
Your argument is the same as every socialist or communist, ThAt WaSnT rEaL sOcIaLiSm!
What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish, we shall be in a position to achieve.
Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 149
After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.
Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288
I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it… National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.
As quoted in The Voice of Destruction, Hermann Rauschning, New York, NY, G.P. Putnam’s Sons (1940) p. 186, this book is also known as Hitler Speaks
What the world did not deem possible the German people have achieved…. It is already war history how the German Armies defeated the legions of capitalism and plutocracy. After forty-five days this campaign in the West was equally and emphatically terminated.
“Adolf Hitler’s Order of the Day Calling for Invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece,” Berlin, (April 6, 1941), New York Times, April 7, 1941
To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.
Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler, 4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 31-33. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 , published by Chatto & Windus in 1971
This is going to be quick and sloppy, but, as I said, I'm tired of qualifying my statements with references.
Wagener's first quote is unclear. If genuine, WTF did the Fuhrer even mean? He most certainly did NOT nationalize Germany's means of production. Perhaps he meant the unity of Germany under one flag?? Perhaps he meant one party controlled the nation? Perhaps he meant adequate food for his nation?
Here, OW was referring to early Nazi history, as that's what his book was. The Nazis had a substantial number of socialists in the SA, of which Wagener was a member. Hitler worked to get the Marxist socialists out. See my other reference in this thread. They, weren't a clearly defined organization doctrine wise, but, later, H started kicking butt and pulling the Marxist socialists out, or letting them know that they needed to rethink or leave. Rohm, their leader under whom OW worked, was Marx socialist. But, Hitler was the Leader. And, he was the absolute leader; his role was as head of the party, with ZERO room for negotiation. If he said they weren't a Marxist organization, they weren't a Marxist organization-Period. After Hjalmer Schacht introduced Hitler to industrialists, financiers, etc...he made clear that he allowed private ownership of businesses, land, etc... As I said, I'm not going to reinvent the wheel, so, if you want more on this, keep researching, don't google Hitler socialism for some quot.
Hitler's definition of 'socialism' is different from that of the Marxists. Remember when I wrote that in this very thread??? That is the reason that I wrote it. If I say I love Communism, and my definition of Communism is molesting chickens, you'd be a fool to say that I was a Marxist, wouldn't you?? H said that he was 'taking back' the word from the Marxists/Bolsheviks. I don't see how you can stay married to your interpretation after such clear disambiguation, from the man himself.
Let me give you a tip, that will save you from considerable embarrassment: Do not quote Rauschning unless you are at a Thelema Lodge, or a Thule Society meetiing. A word to the wise, my friend. Further, H saying that he learned from Marxism is no endorsement of it. One of his many quotes which define him are that, in his reading, he 'kept the essential, and disregarded the non-essential.'
Again, reading is your friend. Hitler's definition of 'capitalism' was "Jewish interest slavery." Cf. F.eder.
Hitler was NOT a Marxist socialist.
Lol you have to be kidding me. So essentially your argument is that word's definitions don't matter and we are all supposed to just take your word for it that hitler had different definitions for words?
I don't feel like referencing anything so you will just have to take my word for it that hitler most definitely was a socialist. Every business in Germany was under strict control from the government and at a moments notice had to change its production in order to support the war effort.
LOL, you're being deliberately obtuse, and your little games are reminiscent of a 5th grader's. If you want to understand what a person means, you need to know what they understand words to mean, this is elementary to ANY form of communication. I said you were being deliberately obtuse-I most definitely hope it was deliberate! Otherwise...
I referred you to Mein Kampf for a socialism quote, and gave you a fine date for the Strasser conflict. You are the one acting as if you are the great scholar,the master of all research and academia. This should be less than child's play for a sleuth such as yourself. You want the Doctor's beret, you'll have to put in more work than a pre-schooler.
Keep your Rauschning quotes, and trouble me no more; when you grow up, you can start playing with the big boys.
Finis.
Lol, your post screams like a child crying, I AM VERY SMART!
Forgive me if I don't put much weight into Mein Kampf, a book written by a liberal arts student. Maybe its while studying art that Hitler learned his ideas of socialism?
Do you deny that the nazi government strictly controlled all aspects of politics and economics in germany during the nazi timeline? That the nazi government set up control boards, cartels, and state-sponsored monopolies and konzerns, which they then carefully regulated?
Hitler wasn't a Marxist but he certainly was a socialist and there is a wealth of information that proves beyond any doubt that Nazi Germany was a failed socialist state.
Hitler's socialist policies led to the compete destruction of Germany and the loss of millions of lives.
Your argument is the same as every socialist or communist, ThAt WaSnT rEaL sOcIaLiSm!