I used to like Tomi. The more I listen to her, the more I see her for who she is. An attention seeking woman who seeks validation however she can get it. Here's a 15 min video rant on how men are the problem in relationships. PSA For Boyish Men
The MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) movement is growing larger by the day. It simply isn't worth it to date narcissistic, self entitled women with the intention to eventually lead to marriage. #Metoo false rape charges, #Believeallwomen, 50-55% of marriage ends in divorce (increases with successive marriages), 70% of divorces initiated by women, women are naturally hypergamous and much more willing to leave during difficult times to marry up (Tomi turned down a 50k engagement ring, apparently not good enough), divorce court is stacked against men, family court is stacked against men, cops side with women in domestic situations by default regardless of circumstances, feminism creates power struggles in relationships, men's value in society increases over time while women's value diminishes, more educated women feel entitled to find men who make more than they do even though more women now go to college, Men must meet impossible standards (6 foot+, 6 figures, 6 pack abs which only 10% of the male population qualifies for the height) while women should be accepted for who they are, and on and on.
Guys these days dating women in their 20s and 30s is like walking around in the Korean DMZ. Marriage just isn't worth it anymore. Find your purpose as a man, and live a full life. If you do marry for your own reasons, get an iron clad pre nup with video deposition of her acknowledgement and put your assets in a Trust. If she stays around, she gets the benefits of your value. If she leaves, she leaves with what she came in with. This is how Trump and the many other smart successful men maintain their assets.
Sorry ladies, it is tough to hear, but it is just where we're at as a society today. Men have to protect themselves. I used to think it was mostly on the left, but Tomi and many other TradCon women provides insight that it is a plague on both sides. This isn't about hating women. This is about how society has shifted against men and until laws, society, media, and women begin to stop the attacks on men, our option is to look out for what is best for our personal wellbeing.
Someone had to say it.
Go fuck yourself, Tomi. You don't get to bitch about how "men are trash and losers and they did it to themselves," and then expect us to listen to you lecture us on what we "need to do to fix" ourselves.
No, bitch. That's not how this works. This generation of men was fucked up by a bunch of WOMEN who were "strong and independent and don't need no man" and denied their children a father figure. And the men who were fortunate enough to have involved fathers are too smart to go anywhere near women their age because they would be #MeToo'd. (Which again stems from daughters not having a father figure growing up.)
This problem was created by WOMEN, and WOMEN alone, and now in typical woman fashion, they blame the problem on men and demand we fix it, without doing anything to address the root cause - which is themselves.
You are never gonna find a "good" man with your attitude, Tomi.
Every prominent conservative woman is a plant. Put money on it.
I did notice she wears a nose ring for the first time today. That's a red flag for me.
Problem glasses
She supports abortion.
Entitlement, lack of self reflection/awareness and narcissism in simple terms.
There are legions of simp white knights waiting to serve her unfortunately. Reinforces the behavior.
Thanks pede, I have a tab open for later
The message must spread until it reaches critical mass!
Who cares what Tomi thinks, she's only one deranged woman in a world of fish.
Find a good, normal, compassionate, smart woman who shares your dreams and goals, it won't always be easy, but it's worth it.
Coming from a man who is very happily married for over 30 years. They are out there, go find them.
I appreciate your efforts. I don't care what she thinks as much as it is to point that the infectious thinking isn't only on the political left but rather a greater gender issue.
I'm happy to hear that you've been happily married for over 30 years. You're the exception to the rule these days. As I listed the facts stats above, dating and marriage in today's timeline is very different than when you first married so it is like comparing apples and oranges. I wouldn't expect you to understand what someone in their 20s or 30s are going through with dating apps, social media, feminism, double standards, man shaming, etc. It is a minefield.
Fantastic post, fellow pede. I'm largely on the same page as you when it comes to this particular topic. Not only does marriage completely fail the cost-benefit analysis from a man's perspective, but also, many women's ridiculously high standards (as you said) make even pursuing them a big waste of time. Men are simply better off remaining single and enjoying life, while always striving to improve themselves.
My only disagreement is with your remarks about prenups. Based on certain things that I've read, prenups aren't always foolproof, and some judges can choose to just throw them out for various reasons. That's merely a minor critique, though.
I find it somewhat interesting that many of the men on this forum understand the reality about politics and the media, yet can't bring themselves to swallow the red pill about women. Fortunately, there are plenty of us here who do know this truth.
Yes, there is a mindset on here that traditional conservative women are somehow different. My post was to show that it transcends political spectrum and is a larger gender issue.
I totally understand your disagreement on prenups. The best chance is a 2 prong approach. First is the Iron Clad Pre Nup, which is different than just signing a piece of paper. It is video deposition with both sides' lawyers present representing the individuals as clients first. She would read testimony and agree that she is of sound body/mind/emotions and doing this of her own free will. 99% of prenups are NOT this style.
Second, is putting all your assets in a Trust. Bank accounts, vehicles, houses, boats, everything. This creates a legal separation from you the individual and your assets. They are extremely difficult to penetrate, especially if you have a trusted trustee such as a sibling or best friend who holds a defined specified position so it isn't solo. In essence, you don't own the assets but you derive benefits from the assets as defined and allowed. You as the trustee CAN dissolve the trust at will, but this creates an additional barrier of protection if a divorce comes into question. I This is how the rich preserve their wealth. Unless one is stupid or naive like Bezos.
The best option is to not marry or cohabitate to avoid the risk altogether, but some people want to go through the experience first hand.