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Modus_Pwninz 174 points ago +175 / -1

"We'll remember this Drumpf! This is literally our 9/11!"

  • lefty kids, unironically
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MagaCountry 73 points ago +73 / -0

they would say some stupid shit like that

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Modus_Pwninz 87 points ago +87 / -0

They don't even know what 9/11 was, I'm sure. They probably teach them in school that some right wing militia flew Cessna's into a couple statues of Marx and Lenin or some shit.

They think covid is a big deal - 9/11 was just as big of a deal at the time and affected the entire world from 2001 to now. It was a bigger deal than covid, I'd say.

My fear is that covid is the next step, they needed 9/11 to happen to get the tyranny to today...just wait to see the tyranny they come up with over covid.

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Imin-theinternet 42 points ago +42 / -0

Nah, they r taught that some people did something

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Modus_Pwninz 18 points ago +18 / -0

"Some people did some thing" is literally how Ilhan Omar got pregnant.

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davidmode 28 points ago +28 / -0

I actually had someone at work say something to that effect when talking about islamic terrorism. I kindly informed him that if his best example of Christian "terrorism" is from 500 fucking years ago, its probably not a great argument

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Meddlesom 8 points ago +8 / -0

Islam had conquered Turkey, Spain and Portugal, invaded Southern France and were marching on Paris. They were invading Italy, Malta, Greece, Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Austria, Bulgaria, Hungary, Moldova, Romania, Bosnia, Serbia, Slovenia, and Kosovo. They captured the capital of the Eastern Christian empire, Constantinople, and turned the Hagia Sophia, the world's largest Christian cathedral, into a fucking mosque. They still hold Constantinople, and Turkey is still our fucking enemy.

The crusades were Europe's response to Islam trying to conquer Europe. You need to correct your dumbfuck coworker on more than just "Christian terrorism".

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ethnocentric 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fantastic post and you are spot on.

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AngryCanary 7 points ago +7 / -0

Anyone who compares the crusades to Jihad, make them watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsk9dYa4fGc

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Mynamesprivate 4 points ago +4 / -0

Dont forget they conquered Jerusalem, which prompted thecatholics into action.

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CheckorHold 9 points ago +9 / -0

That's what I've been saying. 9/11 gave them the surveillance and level of control over everything currently. Covid is the next step of fear to push their agenda.

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YugeBallsBelieveMe 8 points ago +8 / -0

We’ve been under attack since 9/11 it changed everything

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Modus_Pwninz 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yeah, I'm only 33 and I don't know what it's like to not be at war. I don't think we have been at peace in my lifetime...

Then again, few generations have I suppose.

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CelesteD 3 points ago +3 / -0

Long before that.

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RespectMyNipples5 2 points ago +2 / -0

And nothin of value will be lost.

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Guruchild 2 points ago +2 / -0

pat, Pat, SMACK

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Smubbs 27 points ago +41 / -14

Read the article. This doesn't take effect for 45 days. Microsoft can still buy it.

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Smubbs 5 points ago +15 / -10

Everyone is celebrating like something just happened. It didn't.

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Thrasymachus 18 points ago +19 / -1

It's a pretty huge happening, actually.

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Wtf_socialismreally 2 points ago +3 / -1

It's pretty big, and now Microsoft has a time limit if they want to buy it.

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Lindsaygrahamblows 1 point ago +5 / -4

Exactly. There’s lots of dumb people on here lately.

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TrumpWillWinIn2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

I reckon they offer all of about tree fiddy for it now.

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Tookens 18 points ago +18 / -0

And the nasty dancing nurse look-at-me vote

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Spez_Isacuck 10 points ago +10 / -0

How will our heroic nurses be able to dance for the China virus patients now??

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Lol

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Harambe 137 points ago +139 / -2

WeChat banned as well

Glorious

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Forte 59 points ago +59 / -0

It bans transactions with WeChat's parent company, which happens to be Tencent. Could theoretically affect Chicom shit like Reddit, but also might affect Riot Games and others. Might be a much bigger deal than expected.

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Viking 8 points ago +8 / -0

Gotta love how Epic Games pretty much blew up because of Fortnite and of all the places Sweeney could’ve sold almost half his company, he chose chicom tencent. What a bitch boy..

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tufftoffee 7 points ago +7 / -0

OH SHIT

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Meddlesom 5 points ago +5 / -0

If it sinks Epic Games, I'll be a happy man. Fuck Tencent.

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Wtf_socialismreally 3 points ago +3 / -0

Apparently this means any transactions moving forward, not the current status quo.

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80960KA 14 points ago +14 / -0

It's the state-sanctioned chicom social app, kinda a mix of Fagbook and Shitter. Doesn't have a particularly large userbase outside of China and China-aligned states, I think it's mostly used by Chinese nationals here.

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americanjerky 7 points ago +7 / -0

Not anymore it aint

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Smubbs -23 points ago +10 / -33

Read the article. This doesn't take effect for 45 days. Microsoft can still buy it.

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 26 points ago +26 / -0

If they pay the Fed.

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Please_Clap 13 points ago +15 / -2

Nice. That will show us where Microsoft's loyalty is.

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 21 points ago +22 / -1

Dude its 45 days for companies invested in TikTok to stop or be sanctioned. Take your low energy ass out of here.

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Please_Clap 4 points ago +5 / -1

Maybe I am misunderstanding how the transaction would work. Clarify for me please ...

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 17 points ago +17 / -0

Anyone can purchase TikTok but Trump signaled previously that the check should be made out to Fed Government (basically saying he isn't for the acquisition). 45 days was given more so for those invested in TikTok to pull out before being sanctioned. Either way, the tech will not be in the hands of Chyna.

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Viking 3 points ago +3 / -0

So we can basically just take TikTok and shit from China because we’ve got the power to do so?

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AedraLord 5 points ago +6 / -1

Is this a joke?

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HiddenDekuScrub 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is like when people have a bad breakup and suspend each other's phone numbers in order to break up the phone account...

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tashnag_01 103 points ago +103 / -0

YUGE!!!

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McFatty7 72 points ago +72 / -0

And it's not just TikTok, WeChat is getting crushed as well!

The president issued another executive order on Thursday night applying the same ban on transactions with the Chinese owners of messaging app WeChat.

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Cameron 28 points ago +28 / -0

Damn, there goes my Chinese cougar dating app :D

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americanjerky 4 points ago +5 / -1

Back to the backpage

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SirSeizureSalad 20 points ago +20 / -0

I wonder how it will effect things like Path of Exile, or RIOT games, etc.

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Dictator_Bob 34 points ago +34 / -0

Or Blizzard, the treacherous bastards.

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Phenn 19 points ago +19 / -0

Fuck blizzard. I used to love that company...

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80960KA 9 points ago +9 / -0

Knew they were gonna go to shit as soon as Activision bought em in like '08. Took a bit longer than I expected, but it inevitably happened.

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tcriv 4 points ago +4 / -0

the blizzard that existed in the 90s/early 00s isn't the same blizzard we know & hate today

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flashersenpai 15 points ago +15 / -0

Bruh I would love for Tencent megacorp be sanctioned and see the meltdown.

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GilaMonsterous 8 points ago +8 / -0

Tencent is a scourge upon gaming.

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aveydey 2 points ago +2 / -0

And movies.

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Meddlesom 2 points ago +2 / -0

and humanity.

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redguard13 8 points ago +8 / -0

Or Epic Games, the BLM shills.

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americanjerky 2 points ago +2 / -0

They would have to sort their shit out I would imagine

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PremiumPatriotPepe 4 points ago +4 / -0

Too much winning Mr. President!

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MrTruam 29 points ago +29 / -0

India banned almost 100 apps. 250+ in consideration. We should ban all Chinese apps. Fuck CCP.

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Viking 4 points ago +4 / -0

Damn India got the pp hard right now. They’re making some good ass moves against China. Props to them.

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SkullLeader1 21 points ago +21 / -0

Yuge PP

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

👍👍

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StoryTimeHour 2 points ago +2 / -0

it really is amazing how much Trump has been able to accomplish simply by leveraging trade deals

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spezisacuckold 61 points ago +62 / -1

Now apply this to the rest of the Chinese Communist spy apps.

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IAFF4TRUMP 60 points ago +60 / -0

Looks like China will just have to go back to its spying via Doctorate students. At least nurses will be able to get some work done in the trenches now instead of making dance videos.

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pmurTJdlanoD 11 points ago +12 / -1

They did and then it got reversed or some shit (I think Kushner had something to do with this)

source: my ass and being frustrated with universities flooding with Chinese nationals

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Ariztocrat 6 points ago +6 / -0

♫Secret Asian man...♫

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Looks like China will just have to go back to its spying via Doctorate students.

Yep. And the good old standby. Of just bribing and blackmail.

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Tallsie 2 points ago +2 / -0

At least those can be audited and investigated.

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Smubbs -26 points ago +9 / -35

Read the article. This doesn't take effect for 45 days. Microsoft can still buy it.

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 7 points ago +16 / -9

Fuck off troll

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Bookhockey 13 points ago +15 / -2

He's not trolling it's literally why hrs making the ban effective immediately, he wants it to be owned by a us based company

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 3 points ago +4 / -1

Nice username.

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Bookhockey 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks!

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Hey_thisnomypee 44 points ago +44 / -0

Awesome. Awesome to the max.

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americanjerky 3 points ago +3 / -0

Next step we give them the boneitis!

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skumario 37 points ago +37 / -0

Finally! Long overdue.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

👍👍👍

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Smubbs -23 points ago +7 / -30

Read the article. The ban is in 45 days.

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 16 points ago +17 / -1

45 days for companies to stop investing in TikTok before sanctions are applied.

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skumario 12 points ago +13 / -1

I know. Still better than no ban.

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CoronaT_Virus 31 points ago +31 / -0

Gloves are off!!! Fuck yeah!!

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

Yep

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Smubbs -34 points ago +6 / -40

Read the article. This doesn't take effect for 45 days. Microsoft can still buy it.

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CoronaT_Virus 29 points ago +29 / -0

Still cut off any financial support Bytedance could get from the US in the meantime

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Thrasymachus 14 points ago +14 / -0

Boy, you're really on a roll with this---did you really think your "insight" on the implementation timeline (i.e. that it's not instantaneous) was so profound you needed to spam it to every post in the thread? You're a big fat mess!

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 10 points ago +10 / -0

45 days for US companies invested in TikTok to stop before they are sanctioned.

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americanjerky 5 points ago +5 / -0

Back to r/sino, bot

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Ben45 19 points ago +19 / -0

Rapin Bill will not be happy when he can't watch random 15 year olds on his phone anymore.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Rapin Bill will not be happy when he can't watch random 15 year olds on his phone anymore.

Hillary can play dress up and dance for him!

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ladypede_killer 6 points ago +6 / -0

yuck

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Tusculan2 5 points ago +5 / -0

The side of beef dance?

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neehl 3 points ago +3 / -0

Maybe she can slip on the blue dress and red heels that he’s so fond of

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IamM 16 points ago +16 / -0

If I remember right this is huge due to Tencent being the owners of not just tiktok but dozens of gaming genres including league of legends, part-owners of blizzard, and if I remember right pubg. Valve are probably the single biggest fans of trump right now.

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flashersenpai 9 points ago +9 / -0

100% stake in Riot Games (LOL), 5% stake in ABlizzard, 11% in Bluehole.

40% in Epic Games. 5% in Ubisoft.

And then other % in various mobile devs/midsize/indie devs.

https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/

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Sexyqualiathoughts 3 points ago +3 / -0

Be funny if a wealthy pro-Trump individual took Tencent place.

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rphillipps16 15 points ago +15 / -0

Tencent next?

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seapr 25 points ago +25 / -0

transactions w/tencent already, today, as is, will be banned in 45 days

they are the parent company of wechat, wechat isnt banned tencent is

ppl dont realize how huge this is yet

fortnight, reddit, ubisoft lol

e: tencent bought into discord the last time they were raising money too

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Gutsyisland 10 points ago +10 / -0

Fuck em. Especially after that crazy shit with valorant having ring 0 access to your PC... I don't want to see any Chinese companies invest in gaming

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flashersenpai 5 points ago +5 / -0

https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/

Not as much as I would have thought. Mostly Epic (40%) and Riot Games (100% KEK)

I only wish Tencent had invested in EA more so I could dance on its grave. But in any case, game companies will be fine. They'll get bought out by someone somewhere like always.

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magaspif 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good

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easedel 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yep this could get MAJOR pushback if it implies to EVERYTHING Tencent has a hold of

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flashersenpai 2 points ago +2 / -0

and Epic Games

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leonfire99 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm hearing tencent might be included in this. Need more info.

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Meddlesom 2 points ago +2 / -0

Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī), Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.

Fuck yeah.

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Nadlers_Belt 14 points ago +14 / -0

TikTok Tick-Tock?

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everylastjuan 11 points ago +11 / -0

Your username is tight, dawg

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

👍👍👍

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glompywompy 5 points ago +6 / -1

Eh, honestly, microsoft will just buy tiktok, and then "outsource" the entire development team offshore, and that dev team just so happens to be in chyna, and because storage is cheaper, the storage will stay in chyna too.

Trump should just ban tiktok entirely.

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jealousminarchist 14 points ago +15 / -1

Honestly I hope this constitutes a solid precedence to go for shittit next. Just get there, order people to evac and seize/burn it. Shittit is engaging in explicit criminal activities of election meddling, is controlled by the same CCP, and at the bare minimum is a fraudulent propaganda machine operating as editor/censor while claiming to be politically neutral.

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C00gsHouse281 12 points ago +12 / -0

TikTok nurses BTFO

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BilbroNaggins 6 points ago +6 / -0

What will we do with out the erotic stress relieving dances of the gorgeous and brave nurses that are fighting in the front line so we could survive this terrifying disease that has less than 1% mortality rate? ANSWER ME PLEASE BROTHERS WHAT WILL WE DO??? I'm literally shacking right now.

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PugBoy23 12 points ago +12 / -0

were gonna have a lot of covid-suicide related deaths for those between the ages of 12-24.....

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Bookhockey 5 points ago +5 / -0

Underratted comment right here

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HongKongFluey 10 points ago +10 / -0

Getting some payback for that Tulsa rally

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Getting some payback for that Tulsa rally

Lol.

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SludgeWarehouse 10 points ago +11 / -1

I don't see how Microsoft buying it makes things any better.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

I don't see how Microsoft buying it makes things any better.

Easy. Microsoft will get to spy. Not the Chinese Commies …

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FullMetalMello 3 points ago +3 / -0

Microsoft is no more American than Tik Tok is. Microsoft sold out to with H1B1, etc. visas to get cheap labor.

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SludgeWarehouse 3 points ago +4 / -1

Isn't that almost the same as China spying?

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flashersenpai 2 points ago +2 / -0

Serve a court order to a Chinese company and to a US company and see which one follows the order.

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SludgeWarehouse 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's a good point.

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bubadmt 9 points ago +9 / -0

BREAKING: 9th Circuit Court of Hawaii Rules TikTok is a constitutional right.

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Trumper007 9 points ago +11 / -2

He just saved Microsoft about $25Billion which Trump will allow them to settle based on TikToks new fine for $12Billion GIVING US ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD THE WALL

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yep

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Smubbs -25 points ago +3 / -28

Read the article. The ban is in 45 days.

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Trumper007 14 points ago +14 / -0

Yeah which means that TIKTOK has no functioning values and he has given all the leverage to Microsoft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #KEEPUP lol

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lifeisahologram 3 points ago +3 / -0

I know that’s true, but honestly part of me just wants to see the service crumble so the CCP can see its baby wither and die.

The CCP already gets all the information they want from American companies anyways, now there’s just a speed bump in the way. I’d rather them feel bad their creation was fucking nuked.

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Test_user21 8 points ago +8 / -0

This is fantastic news, I'm not sure such loathsome companies such as Riot, Epic games, and most importantly Grinding Gear Games will be able to find actual buyers in time.

People in New Zealand take our association with them for granted, and they have no problem calling Pres. Trump names and have a negative opinion of the USA.

Trump should put all NZ companies on the list since they dislike us so much.

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flashersenpai 3 points ago +3 / -0

https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/

Riot will be bought easy. They make money. GGG will too probably. Epic isn't totally owned by Tencent, so I'm sure Tencent will find a way to sell its shares before time is up.

How much of a loss they'll take I'm not sure, since anyone buying Tencent properties has the sellers over a barrel.

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Truth_Cipher 7 points ago +7 / -0

TikTok times up!

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol

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ERIC_CIARAMELLA 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is pretty fucking big in the gaming world, so much fucking reeeee is going to happen.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is pretty fucking big in the gaming world, so much fucking reeeee is going to happen.

Yep.

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easedel 1 point ago +2 / -1

Big isn't the word. Its going to be huge and not in a good way

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flashersenpai 5 points ago +5 / -0

It's a matter of perspective.

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ERIC_CIARAMELLA 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah, yeah it will. American companies can stop doing business with commies now and give smaller companies a better chance at striking gold.

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hereforthewinning 6 points ago +6 / -0

PUT EM IN QUARANTINE

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yep all of them

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Grilledpepe 6 points ago +7 / -1

You thought the BLM riots were bad? Wait until you see the tik tok riots.

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unicornpoop 7 points ago +7 / -0

THOTs screeching and throwing glitter bombs.

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flashersenpai 2 points ago +2 / -0

lel go to livejasmine and myfreecams like the hardworking hoes ya stank asses

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salvecitizen 6 points ago +6 / -0

Gotta say I'm disappointed that Hannity wasn't anticipating this.

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flashersenpai 6 points ago +6 / -0

tick tock

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HongKongFluey 6 points ago +7 / -1

Because this is the topic of American family dinner conversations. Perfect.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

👍👍👍

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linhares 5 points ago +5 / -0

Please, China, retaliate against twitter youtube facebook and reddit! Please hurt them deeply.

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 5 points ago +5 / -0

2 + 2 = Thigh

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SpaceForceMilitia 5 points ago +5 / -0

Does this mean Microsoft can git fucked cause we dont want them getting a spying tool either?

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 4 points ago +4 / -0

45 fucking days for those invested in TikTok to halt their spend before being sanctioned.

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Smubbs -15 points ago +2 / -17

Read the article. This doesn't take effect for 45 days. Microsoft can still buy it.

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basedtexapede 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'd be really worried about this if I weren't already dead from net neutrality.

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friendofno1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Everyone on that platform is an autistic 12 year old girl dressed as a club slut dancing to retarded autotune rap like they’re experiencing an epileptic seizure.

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_Eric_Ciaramella_ 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thats My President.

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glompywompy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Eh, honestly, microsoft will just buy tiktok, and then "outsource" the entire development team offshore, and that dev team just so happens to be in chyna, and because storage is cheaper, the storage will stay in chyna too.

Trump should just ban tiktok entirely.

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freedom_bigly 4 points ago +4 / -0

BuT tHaT's SuPpReSsInG mY fReE sPeAcH

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rx1994z 4 points ago +4 / -0

In an unprecedented move, Trump has insisted that a portion of any sale of TikTok to a U.S. company should be directed to the U.S. Treasury, citing his role in making a deal possible.

LMAOOOOOO

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Psyk0Tripp 4 points ago +4 / -0

Reddit just got fucked

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DeathBattleFan123 3 points ago +3 / -0

FUCK YEAH MOTHER FUCKER

FUCK CHINA

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Chyna Asshoe

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LinconChurchill 3 points ago +3 / -0

About FUCKING time!

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep

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Meme_war_ii_vet 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol fucking alpha charging a vig

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep

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PepeTheSailorman 3 points ago +3 / -0

It came from Chyna and he sent it back! The madlad

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Please_Clap 3 points ago +3 / -0

We're at war. While certainly not a very big punch it is a step in the right direction.

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OutcastSeal 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes!!!!!!!!!

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ShakeYourTrumpThang 3 points ago +3 / -0

FUCK YOU TENCENT

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OkieRedPiller 3 points ago +4 / -1

The clock is clicking. I mean the tok is ticking. I mean the clock is ticking on the end game for tic tok

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mickusa1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Awesome!

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MAGA_____bitches 3 points ago +3 / -0

Cut the funding. Easiest way to slay the cucks.

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MrTruam 3 points ago +3 / -0

Block that shit completely. No more Chinese produced apps in our country. They don't allow any of our major apps in their country. Fair trade baby!

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fair trade baby!

Only way it shouod be.