WHITE HOUSE: Executive Order on Addressing the Threat Posed by WeChat
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I want to see a better trade policy with China that is more fair, I don't want a scorched earth cold war with China, especially as someone overseas.
I think we all do, but it's pretty clear China has not and will not play fair. They are in it to win it for the ethnostate. Honestly I can't fault them, seems a lot better than our current broken system which rewards traitors for destroying its own people.
The EO bans US individuals from transacting with we-chat. As a US citizen in China, that would destroy my life and potentially leave me in serious dire straits. I wouldn't be able to pay my rent or eat. I would be homeless immediately. Imagine you were traveling in another country and suddenly all the local banks banned Americans and you couldn't use an ATM. If we-chat responds by kicking users who verified through US government ID off their platform it's going to be absolute hell over here. The no transaction policy also applies to Chinese in the US, whose only method of contact with family and friends in China is through Wechat.
This has already set Chinese social media on fire, and it's going to be a huge decoupling between the US and China. It essentially makes life impossible for Americans in China and unpalatable for Chinese in America. This is such bad timing as well because global transportation and borders are shut down due to covid. You can make a policy argument if you think this is a good tactical move by the US, but for my individual interests and many of my friends (many of whom were also Trump supporters), this is some of the most foreboding news we're waking up to in years. Things are going to get very difficult.
I came to say this. Come home. We will happily send the Chinese here back to a China in exchange. Or for free. But really you should come home. You’re in enemy territory as long as the CCP rules.
That's easy to say when it's not your life on the line. Would you risk losing your apartment, your phone and internet, your ability to feed yourself and also be divorced from everyone you know and try to survive outside of society with no lifeline? I have over 4000 facebook friends and I wouldn't give a damn if Facebook was shut down tomorrow. This is not like just banning facebook. This is like banning iMessage, Apple Pay, Paypal, Swipe, Mastercard, Visa, cashApp, Whatsapp, Google, Amazon, DoorDash, Uber, and any bill payment services you use, in a society that doesn't take cash or use any other communication apps. If you think this is about "easier", you're not understanding the gravity of the situation. It would be easier to survive in the US if the government banned you from having a drivers license, insurance and bank account and banned you from any government services as well. That's the only way I can communicate how important this company is to China and people living here. When I go to collect my passport at the entry exit administration, I use wechat. There isn't really any analogue in the US.
I have no interest in arguing with people who I agree with on almost every issue, but you really aren't understanding how big this is or the kind of fallout this will have among Chinese and Americans.
Just read your edit on your original comment, not sure why you are getting downvoted here. I would be scared as fuck with everything going down in 2020, shit was a lot different when I lived there.
Dude, unless you are of han lineage and can get citizenship, pull a runner on your contract or whatever and get out. If you are 'white' you are about to get the Japanese treatment.
"This has already set Chinese social media on fire, and it's going to be a huge decoupling between the US and China. It essentially makes life impossible for Americans in China and unpalatable for Chinese in America."
Works for me. Sorry to be brutally direct, but get the fuck out of communist China and find a better way to make a living.
Honestly I really do feel for you and your friends over there. Lived in HK for a couple years back in the early 00's. Shit's been getting dicey for awhile and honestly China with its immigration/citizenship laws not to mention the farce of a court system has always meant you guys have no real future over there.
Probably should cut losses and come home, I'm surprised there are still some of you over there.
Maybe that's the point. Maybe he wants everyone to go home because something big is about to happen.
This. It’s looking more and more like the warm war with China is going to go hot. This is a clear signal to expats to get out. Pay attention, expat-pedes!
I smell the stench of appeasement
Great info and perspective. Thanks for sharing.
That's not going to happen until CCP exists. The playing field is simply not fair with China's CCP in power.